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flamming_python wrote:
All I'm saying is that Putin decided to play right into their narrative. He was boxed into a corner maybe by some imminent Ukrainian invasion of the Donbass, maybe by NATO entering, maybe by something else. Or maybe he just decided to strike a blow against the West through the Ukraine, turning the tables, instead of the West using the Ukraine against Russia.
Who knows. Either way it's ultimately the result of his politics and policies, that he allowed the situation to develop to this stage.
He should have solved it when Trump was around and it was possible.
Otherwise what.
Summer 2021 the Biden-Putin teleconferences, when he offers Russia to detach from China and get the Ukraine problem resolved in return
November 2021 the Ukrainian leadership and the US sign some important document on NATO, the 17th I think it was. Clearly this turned out to be a critical document
December 2021 Ryabkov's ultimatum
January 2022 The Ukraine and Moldova blockade Pridnestrovie
February 2022 The operation begins
Biden hardly remembers what he had for breakfast, yet you are suggesting making strategic deals with him?
Anglosaxons can't be trusted.
This is the firmest lesson from history one can get.
From the very beginning of the operation, I could not get the point of it. Some of the movements were not logical, I could not understand them.
It only started to clear out - at least for me - when the operation continued, and some information was already there.
Russia screwed hard on the political ground. And one can't blame them. This is a direct result of the zombification of the population that started not 8, but 100+ years ago. It only intensified for the last 8 years.
The result was hard to predict because the whole situation is insane.
As a European, I really have a mental problem with understanding that EU not only tolerated this monster evolving next by but actively supported it!
It is unbelievable. Simply jumps out of the logic box.
The whole maidan thing was a direct blow to EU political interest, made by the US.
Germany, France, and Poland made a deal with Yanukovych! A fukin DEAL! Everything was solved there, it would bring a political solution. Yanuk would lose elections in just 2 months, a new government would ink a deal with the EU. There would be no civil war, no victims.
But that was not something in the interests of the US, oh no!
They needed a blow that would humiliate Russkies. Piss them straight into the face.
Obama was a madman, drunk with power. He could not stand not only Russkies having interests in the Middle East, but the Europeans solving issues in their very own backyard either.
Every single claim that was made by the republics for years, turns to be true. Every single one. Mass graves, rapes, tortures, political murders, looting&stealing.
A whole Crima was a subject of constant terrorist operations made by the SBU. Electric lines blown, pipes destroyed, people being killed.
If one has a chance to watch the materials made with Mariupol refugees, they are all saying the same thing. A whole city was given to Azov. As a trophy. It was not even considered a Ukrainian town
and they openly admitted that if forced to leave - they will destroy the whole city. The real reason of your cries, is the fact that you - and we all along - are not used to the situation, that Russia defends it's direct interests at such harsh and brutal manner.
US can strike any country on the planet, having an excuse of any sort.
UK can do it either.
France can attack Kadaffi, or keep it's troops in half of Africa.
Australia can seriously consider "preventive occupation" of Salomon Islands, not letting the Chinese in.
But Russia can't respond to SBU terrorizing it's territory, killing citizens, shelling of Donbas, hosting a biolabs, harassing Russian speaking population, and creating an open threat to it's fundamental existence? Because we are not used to it? Because Russia is a fluffy teddy bear? No. It is not one anymore.
Briefing by the Russian Defence Ministry
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine.
This morning, high-precision sea and air-launched missiles destroyed an oil refinery and 3 fuel depots near Odessa, from which fuel was supplied to a group of Ukrainian troops in the Nikolaev direction.
