Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Stealthflanker Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:58 pm
Ukrainian Su-27's never really seen to carry wingtip jammer pod.Isos wrote:That's a su-27UB of ukraine. You can see no canards and the cockpit is a a two seat 1 behind the other.
It was also shared two weeks ago with no close footage. Only today when they painted russian signs on it.
Try again.
nomadski wrote:Isos wrote " It's a guided munition for attacking bunkers. I'm talking about bombing the troops with carpet bombing using heavy bombs. " They said that because of close proximity of forces in Donbass , to friendly forces and civilians , that air bombing could not be done ! Therefore small surface bombs or bunker busters that are accurate and explode underground , can be used . The UA in Donbass front , are lined-up in a neat row . Perfect for a bombing run . As precaution , friendly forces can retreat a few meters , beyond CEP , or blast radius for own safety , just before a bombing run . Does Russia have small but precise bombs for surface targets ? Say an artillery pieces parked in a civilian home , that destroys the artillery but not the house ? Does Russia have many bunker busters ? Americans adapted the barrel of artillery piece to become bunker buster .
psg, flamming_python, d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy, nomadski and like this post
Isos wrote:That's a su-27UB of ukraine. You can see no canards and the cockpit is a a two seat 1 behind the other.
It was also shared two weeks ago with no close footage. Only today when they painted russian signs on it.
Try again.
Stealthflanker wrote:Ukrainian Su-27's never really seen to carry wingtip jammer pod.Isos wrote:That's a su-27UB of ukraine. You can see no canards and the cockpit is a a two seat 1 behind the other.
It was also shared two weeks ago with no close footage. Only today when they painted russian signs on it.
Try again.
It's either Su-30SM, Su-34 or Su-35's.
GarryB, Big_Gazza, JohninMK, Ned86 and Belisarius like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Stealthflanker Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:25 pm
Firebird wrote:
Is it me, or do those plough divots in the ground look really wide compared to the wreckage?
Likewise those flecks on the soil look quite big.
Bottom line, could it be a remote control plane?
Infact look at the remains of that rear engine.
I'm not sure... just thinking out loud.
That's the bitter stuff one needs to swallow w.r.t Russia.
They always fail or the opponents always get the upper hand on the negotiating table/deals.
And no shortage of traitors inside Russia either.
But nevertheless it means they'll fight to the end.
A week ago they marched into the Kherson region by foot, just with Grads as company - and were routed by Russian artillery and Su-25s. They retreated, but now they're back on the attack again.
That's what's so fked up about this war and about Putin agreeing to play by this whole scenario.
Putin was insane to try, and the result is we will have human wave attacks with suicide belts at this rate.
Kyiv says that a peace agreement is almost ready and that a meeting with Zelensky Putin will be held soon
Its so sad to see those Nazi scum take refuge in someones house and have it destroyed as a result.
He should have solved it when Trump was around and it was possible.
Summer 2021 the Biden-Putin teleconferences, when he offers Russia to detach from China and get the Ukraine problem resolved in return
... his fucking son organised and paid for those bio weapons labs designing designer weapons to kill Russians specifically and you think he would be a man of his word?Davyd Arakhamia a negotiator from Ukraine claims
Begs the question of why it wasn't taken away by Russian forces, or destroyed Neutral
Or does Russia want NATO to inspect it?
I suspect it's another demoralization effort against Russian patriots
The Ukraine has been doing that successfully. And Medinsky did them plenty of favours as well
I dont know the design of th KA-52, can the pilots take out/destroy all the critical systems themselves in an short amount of time?.
if they can take the drives and computers, the thing is just an useless hulk.
There seemed to be a lot of disconnected wires in shots that where connected to systems somewhere.
Now we Kiev that was a feint. Nothing more. They never intended to take the city, just tie up a large portion of UAF forces to prevent them from reinforcing the Donbass. Now the UAF is essentially immobile and cannot move significant number of troops eastwards, so the troops of the Kiev salient have better things to do...
You still don't want it captured and inspected, even if someone took the computers out.
The pilots didn't eject BTW, they landed and were then extracted.
And really, you'd want to take it back and repair it.
Just incredible.
Which makes sense if you look at the pics of dead civilians. Looks like they were just going about their lives and then dropped dead, and very recently. Grad work likely
I never got an answer why Russia simply doesn't commit more equipment. It has so many more soldiers in reserve.
Americans set us up, maybe we could have avoided it , but I guess the situation was not good from the beginning
If you want my opinion I think both sides are moving towards a deal
And don't protest this deal when it comes, because it didn't crush and humiliate the Ukrs. It's the only reasonable one. Swallow your own pride. Main thing is to solve Russia's security concerns and get America and NATO outta there.
They will sign a deal I think
But I think the Ukrainians got the message already
The retreat is demoralizing. I do not like it.
Russia doesn't need the Donbass, or Novorussia or whatever. It needs the whole of Ukraine.
Lukashenko said the Ukraine will enter the Union State in 15 years time. This is the goal.
But I frankly don't care. You were keen on a war, it's what you got, and Russia won and got what it wanted out of it. Be happy.
Link to the details of this deal if you have it.
It may have been possible with Trump
Or with the Ukrainians themselves, before they became completely dependent on the US
Well it kind of is the most ferocious and large-scale war since Korea
The ka-52 isn't new, western intelligence services most likely already have all the info they need on it. These details get leaked over the years, USA would be more interested in any soft kill systems it had but it didn't have president S system etc.
Russia will have to cut off western arms supply routes to Ukraine, else this conflict will go on, forever. The West intends to keep Russia bogged down in Ukraine. Kremlin can't afford to play the game on their terms.
It was not possible with Trump either, as he was openly contested by the other power structures in the US.
Does Russia have small but precise bombs for surface targets ? Say an artillery pieces parked in a civilian home , that destroys the artillery but not the house ? Does Russia have many bunker busters ? Americans adapted the barrel of artillery piece to become bunker buster .
The West have already started talking about stealing some of Russia's $300 Billion frozen CB assets to pay for Ukraine's war damages, it was beyond stupid for Russia to invest so much in countries that have been openly hostile and subversive to them for over 10 years.
As I read many Ukrainian POWs don't want to be swapped back for the time being, due to this reason.
For these guys the war is over.
and let's not get ahead of yourself.
Arrow, d_taddei2, Airbornewolf, Big_Gazza, kvs, GunshipDemocracy and Hole like this post
owais.usmani dislikes this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Stealthflanker Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:34 pm
GarryB, d_taddei2, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, GunshipDemocracy, nomadski, Mir and Urluber like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:48 pm
Arrow wrote:flamming_python wrote:Arrow wrote:It is not known whether it is Russian or Ukrainian
https://t.me/stranaua/34540
That looks like that vid of the Ukrainian Su-24 downed like 10 days ago
Stop looking at Ukrainian sources. They're insane
The best Russian telegram channels cover the losses of both sides
Or a new shoot down
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:49 pm
Stealthflanker wrote:corpse that can move.. or so it seems
flamming_python wrote:Stealthflanker wrote:corpse that can move.. or so it seems
That could just be a drop of water though
Either way that place was shelled, and not by Russia as it withdrew 5 days ago
Video played in slow mo shows that the body stands up. Dawn of the dead or something like thisflamming_python wrote:Stealthflanker wrote:corpse that can move.. or so it seems
That could just be a drop of water though
Either way that place was shelled, and not by Russia as it withdrew 5 days ago
hahaha 
GarryB, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, kvs, GunshipDemocracy and Broski like this post
owais.usmani likes this post
Podlodka77 dislikes this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Stealthflanker Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:54 pm
Arrow wrote:Unfortunately, the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense is still operational. Buk or S 300?
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 flamming_python Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:03 pm
Arrow, Big_Gazza and GunshipDemocracy like this post
Arrow wrote:Unfortunately, the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense is still operational. Buk or S 300?
miketheterrible likes this post
Arrow and owais.usmani dislike this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:04 pm
Broski wrote:The West have already started talking about stealing some of Russia's $300 Billion frozen CB assets to pay for Ukraine's war damages, it was beyond stupid for Russia to invest so much in countries that have been openly hostile and subversive to them for over 10 years.GunshipDemocracy wrote:Reconstruction - do you really think Russia will agree to pay contributions as by unconditional surrender?! yet somebody has to pay for new Mariupol, roads, railways or oil terminals...why not eu?
Arrow wrote:Unfortunately, the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense is still operational. Buk or S 300?
Arrow, magnumcromagnon, Big_Gazza, kvs, Hole and Broski like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:04 pm
owais.usmani likes this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:16 pm
Arkanghelsk wrote:
Noone in Russia wants a peace deal, or at least a very small minority do like peskov and medinsky
+++
Why are we negotiating with these nazi scum? In the areas where no administration was created, the people are dying , elderly and weak
GarryB and Hole like this post
GarryB, d_taddei2, Big_Gazza and LMFS like this post
Broski wrote:The West have already started talking about stealing some of Russia's $300 Billion frozen CB assets to pay for Ukraine's war damages, it was beyond stupid for Russia to invest so much in countries that have been openlyGunshipDemocracy wrote:Reconstruction - do you really think Russia will agree to pay contributions as by unconditional surrender?! yet somebody has to pay for new Mariupol, roads, railways or oil terminals...why not eu?Arrow wrote:Unfortunately, the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense is still operational. Buk or S 300?
That's true. It's not that easy to destroy them all since they are dispersed and masked. Once they are find you can see vids on Russia's MoD site...As for manpads. Thousands promised and already delivered by west cannot be eliminated all. But hopefully war delivered to west enemies :d
Big_Gazza and GunshipDemocracy like this post
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:27 pm
GunshipDemocracy wrote:Arkanghelsk wrote:
Noone in Russia wants a peace deal, or at least a very small minority do like peskov and medinsky
+++
Why are we negotiating with these nazi scum? In the areas where no administration was created, the people are dying , elderly and weak
I understand your anger but I'd say neither Peskov nor Putin are Vth column. Peskov is on short leash as Nabulina is. Is it Putin and his advisors/closest ring of real power people whi pull all strings. For some reason they deemed negotiations needed. It is just a part of great game we know only tiny part of. Signing any deal now would be capitulation as part of reserves are lost and sanctions never are going to be lifted completely. Who told you Ukrainian war criminals will be let free? Did fighting stop for a minute ?
When Putin speaks can send chills on us planner sines but the worst it when he's silent... you know
Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #9 Stealthflanker Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:29 pm
flamming_python wrote:
Well too bad
Hope the pilots made it out
Arkanghelsk wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:Arkanghelsk wrote:
Noone in Russia wants a peace deal, or at least a very small minority do like peskov and medinsky
+++
Why are we negotiating with these nazi scum? In the areas where no administration was created, the people are dying , elderly and weak
I understand your anger but I'd say neither Peskov nor Putin are Vth column. Peskov is on short leash as Nabulina is. Is it Putin and his advisors/closest ring of real power people whi pull all strings. For some reason they deemed negotiations needed. It is just a part of great game we know only tiny part of. Signing any deal now would be capitulation as part of reserves are lost and sanctions never are going to be lifted completely. Who told you Ukrainian war criminals will be let free? Did fighting stop for a minute ?
When Putin speaks can send chills on us planner sines but the worst it when he's silent... you know
Fighting didn't stop because the army carried out its duties beautifully, faithfully
But the ominous silence is pushing patriots, not navalnyists and defeatist
But people WHO SUPPORT the special operation and even call it a war now
Yes people are saying Russia is at war with Ukraine, let's call a spade a spade
And in a war, you destroy your enemy relentlessly
You don't stop to think of theirs over ours
And abramovich was there at the negotiation
It means high level meetings are co opted by the oligarchs and the scum parasites who want us on our knees to the West
Why is Putin silent then? He was at the stadium with 90,000 people
Where is he? When the mood is somber , and it's obvious that we didn't swallow vodka in a victory toast but the most bitter vinegar ?
|
|
|
Home
Latest images
Register
Log in
