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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:55

    Qny good Twatter accounts to follow?
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    Post  Finty Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:55

    Arsenic wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Finty your right amateurs talk tactics warriors talk logistics

    At least the russians arent being airlifted out of Bagram while the taliban provide security

    That's why bojo is no Winston churchill, you'll be reading about russian army while yours sits in england for a good while

    I won't defend our country's involvement in Afghanistan, it was a waste of time, money and most importantly, lives.

    In Irak too !



    That was shit too, there's a recurring theme. Nevertheless this is whataboutery, I will happily criticise American/British and Russian foreign misadventures without distinction.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:55

    Finty wrote:Regarding dead goat f*ckers...

    The destruction of a convoy of Chechen special forces near Hostomel on Feb. 26 officially confirmed by the President's Office.

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497771662615396354

    You have to stop listening to the Kiev fake-train

    If you don't see photos, vids, it hasn't happened. Chechen special forces continuously release vids. Their last one was a few hours ago. They all seem to be intact.

    And a specualtive thread regarding Russian strategy
    https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/1497498201527521281
    2/Here's where I will start from. The Russian armed forces have never attempted anything like this. This isn't about what kind of war they're fighting it's about what they're capable of mustering.

    According to Dmitri Alperovitch
    @DAlperovitch

    That’s not accurate. And doesn’t explain why there is very little use of tactical bomber aviation, EW and even artillery

    Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

    Fact is - no-one knows. Although the idea of the Russian military sabotaging the operation is pretty naive. It's clearly going ahead as planned. Whatever that plan actually is.

    Well EW they certainly don't want to use unless they have a proper conflict with NATO. Can't show all your cards

    Artillery they do use - Grad and TOS fire against concentrated Ukrainian positions out in the open that don't surrender.

    As for mortars, howitzers, self-propelled arty - they haven't used any of it yet.

    Tactical bombers, drones, etc.. they don't use - and your guess is as good as mine

    They have used Mi-28s, Ka-52s, Su-25s, Mi-24s in CAS. Su-24s in the low-altitude penetration role.

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    Post  Finty Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:56

    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880
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    Post  thegopnik Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:57

    Finty wrote:Regarding dead goat f*ckers...

    The destruction of a convoy of Chechen special forces near Hostomel on Feb. 26 officially confirmed by the President's Office.

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497771662615396354

    And a specualtive thread regarding Russian strategy
    https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/1497498201527521281
    2/Here's where I will start from. The Russian armed forces have never attempted anything like this. This isn't about what kind of war they're fighting it's about what they're capable of mustering.

    According to Dmitri Alperovitch
    @DAlperovitch

    That’s not accurate. And doesn’t explain why there is very little use of tactical bomber aviation, EW and even artillery


    Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

    pics?
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:57

    The Ukrainian air force is still operational? represents a threat?
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sun 27 Feb 2022, 21:59

    Vann7 wrote:
    Finty wrote:


    Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?


    No.. and it was explained earlier..

    because putin is a teddy bear polite moron ,and want to limit ukrainian army casualties , because he hope to convince them to join russia side.. so this is why russia is not even using 1%
    of its airforce capabilities in ukraine.. aside of the show of force with hellicopters the first day..
    when it comes combat jets and drones is missing its use. not a single su-34 video seen in ukraine.
    so effectively putin's weakness is causing russian army lives..  if russia had very strong close air support to their convoys.. none of this ambush on their military had succeed.


    Too bad Putin is not so nice in Syria.


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia



    I wonder why?
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    Post  Finty Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:00

    flamming_python wrote:
    Finty wrote:Regarding dead goat f*ckers...

    The destruction of a convoy of Chechen special forces near Hostomel on Feb. 26 officially confirmed by the President's Office.

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497771662615396354

    You have to stop listening to the Kiev fake-train

    If you don't see photos, vids, it hasn't happened. Chechen special forces continuously release vids. Their last one was a few hours ago. They all seem to be intact.

    And a specualtive thread regarding Russian strategy
    https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/1497498201527521281
    2/Here's where I will start from. The Russian armed forces have never attempted anything like this. This isn't about what kind of war they're fighting it's about what they're capable of mustering.

    According to Dmitri Alperovitch
    @DAlperovitch

    That’s not accurate. And doesn’t explain why there is very little use of tactical bomber aviation, EW and even artillery

    Maybe the real reason is the Russian military wanted this to fail from the outset because they don't agree with Putin's tarded aims?

    Fact is - no-one knows. Although the idea of the Russian military sabotaging the operation is pretty naive. It's clearly going ahead as planned. Whatever that plan actually is.

    Well EW they certainly don't want to use unless they have a proper conflict with NATO. Can't show all your cards

    Artillery they do use - Grad and TOS fire against concentrated Ukrainian positions out in the open that don't surrender.

    As for mortars, howitzers, self-propelled arty - they haven't used any of it yet.

    Tactical bombers, drones, etc.. they don't use - and your guess is as good as mine

    They have used Mi-28s, Ka-52s, Su-25s, Mi-24s in CAS. Su-24s in the low-altitude penetration role.


    Fair point regarding imagery.

    In terms of air superiority, do we know what the picture is there? Su-30SMs have been mentioned as have Su-35S but no evidence.

    As for ground attack it does seem odd to not use Su-34s at all as it's not like the Russians would want to keep their strike capabilities under wrap. But again, we don't know for 100%?

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:00

    massive explosion Cherkasy.

    Drive link:
    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYyKpAdq_C4YopTL7js6FafJ6c3Aqnqi?usp=sharing

    File is called:

    Likely Russian iskander explosion in Cherkasy 27th february.MP4

    Edit: Likely an Russian Iskander.


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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:02

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Qny good Twatter accounts to follow?

    Get telegram instead, and subscribe to some russian army groups.
    it is an goldmine of information you can not find on western media

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    Post  flamming_python Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:03

    Finty wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    Problems with the way you train coming home to roost when its time to fight?

    For a military that understands how to use offensive support its Armoured forces don't seem to appreciate the need for dispersion.

    This is now a high value target.

    Not an isolated example at all.

    https://twitter.com/EliLea1/status/1497369230588596227

    Can the basement dwelling virgins here that suck off Putin so much defend these tactics? They don't seem great.

    They're very good little britain couldnt face the taliban lmfao

    Russia has lost more men in four days than we lost there in 20 years...

    It's a different country and a different mission

    In Syria Russia has lost less men over 6 years than it lost here in a couple of days, but so what.
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    Post  Isos Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:04

    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Can you stop using this source on this forum. They share only ukrainian propaganda. Thanks.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:04

    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Then they'll turn on him again like they did in 2020, after earlier meeting his efforts to reach out to the West

    Fool me once..

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:05

    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Can you stop using this source on this forum. They share only ukrainian propaganda. Thanks.

    Yeah they claimed 500 ill76 shot down by Ukraine. Not one proof of wreckage meanwhile that same day 2 Ukraine planes were shot down.
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    Post  Finty Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:07

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Can you stop using this source on this forum. They share only ukrainian propaganda. Thanks.

    Yeah they claimed 500 ill76 shot down by Ukraine. Not one proof of wreckage meanwhile that same day 2 Ukraine planes were shot down.

    No one claimed that many. Also it's Il-76 not ill

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:07

    Finty wrote:
    #BREAKING: EU countries will provide #Ukraine with 'fighter jets' under Brussels funding, says
    @JosepBorrellF
    .

    https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1498030112230592512

    We can give them some of our Tornado GR4s... joke.


    Australia said it will provide funding for these.


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    Post  PapaDragon Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:08

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...
    Yeah the Russians are being super quiet all things considered, suggesting Putin doesn't want anyone saying anything.

    Idk if Putin is really hand cuffing his guys this bad someone needs to grow a pair and tell him

    Enough is enough he needs to let them fight properly.

    Correct

    You'd expect to see Russian Military but instead they are using enlarged version of DPR militia

    Where is airforce?

    Where are cruise missiles?

    Where is artillery?



    This is like watching Saudis fighting a war but at least Saudis are intelligent enough to use the missiles and airforce

    And Russian corpses keep piling up



    We should be seeing several highways of death of Ukrainian vehicles per hour but instead we have Russian convoys torched like they hired bunch of Saddam's rejects to do this for them

    They shredded their economy and global status for this?



    At this rate Soviet-Afghan War and fall of USSR will look like the good old days







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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:09

    Who is going to fly them?

    Even a highly experienced pilot still takes several months to pearn a new aircraft.

    A waste of money on their part.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:09

    I don't want to fight with my British friend, I understand that he is respectful. But he criticizes the Russian forces too much, and I think they are doing a good job. I remind you that Malvinas, (with no resources and against NATO and Chile) we did material and human damage. We use A4 and old mirage. Russia studied this conflict very well. I hope they open the military archives that Margaret Tachter closed (for some strange reason)

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    Post  Hole Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:09

    War criminal and serial liar Borrell admitted that they can´t block the reserves of the Russian Central Bank because the Russians put their reserves where the west can´t block them. Laughing

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:10

    flamming_python wrote:

    Then they'll turn on him again like they did in 2020, after earlier meeting his efforts to reach out to the West

    Fool me once..

    What would it take for Russia and its allies in Belarus, Kazakhstan, and the other central Asian former Soviet Republics to expedite the formation of a Union State? I think, if Russia's aim is to put a pro Russia -or at least a friendly neutral government - in power in Kiev, permanent military bases and CSTO membership are musts.

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    Post  bitcointrader70 Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:11

    Finty wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Can you stop using this source on this forum. They share only ukrainian propaganda. Thanks.

    Yeah they claimed 500 ill76 shot down by Ukraine. Not one proof of wreckage meanwhile that same day 2 Ukraine planes were shot down.

    No one claimed that many. Also it's Il-76 not ill

    Yes they did. They have claimed they shot down 4 in total all full of vdv paratroopers. Ghost of Kiev false. Snake island 13 dead. False they all surrendered and are alive.

    Several fakes of captured Russian soldiers.

    Several fakes of Ukraine women crying about men leaving to fight were from Eastern Ukraine.

    Claims of 5000 Russian troops dead fake.

    Claims of of Russian tank running over civil car was actually a Ukraine strela 10.

    Several claims of them shooting down Russian planes were also false.

    This propaganda we have never seen before honestly.

    Not even the soviets lies this hard to be quite frank.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:12

    The Russian forces are basically acting as if they're liberating their own territory. They're going into local shops and buying things. Grouping up in cities discussing things. Following all the traffic regulations, letting civilian cars pass in front and through their columns.

    Which is just. I dunno.

    If it works, it will be a hell of a dezombification dose for the Ukrainians. If not, it will end up like the 1st Chechen war.


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    Post  Arsenic Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:13

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Who is going to fly them?

    Even a highly experienced pilot still takes several months to pearn a new aircraft.

    A waste of money on their part.

    I think it's just "communication". Since the start of the conflict, the European Union has been involved in major declarations, major gestures, new ideas every minute...
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    Post  Urluber Sun 27 Feb 2022, 22:13

    Finty wrote:
    French President Emmanuel Macron asks his Belarusian counterpart Lukashenko to quickly order Russian troops to leave.

    On a phone call late on Feb. 26, Macron told Lukashenko that Belarus should “refuse to be a vassal and an accomplice to Russia in the war against Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497742637427834880

    Gotta admit, if one thing about the western governments - they have no shame.

    Taking in consideration that comment is coming from a guy whose country regularly gets bitch-slapped by USA but still always like a beaten puppy provides its military for any unjustified attack the Washington comes up with.
    LOL, maybe he wants to sell those Australian submarines to Byelorus. In order to spend the money to support next US war Laughing

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