S-500 'Prometheus' and S-550 missile systems

The info about the price of the system is quite interesting.
2bln RUB. Four times the S-400 price.
Which if true gives us a funny comparison.
Price of slightly more than $22mln for S-550 and 5.5 mln for S-400.
It's a bargain if true ...

Did it specify what comprises a system?

Command post, a surveillance radar, a fire control radar and some launchers.

S-400 is sold 250 million $ for export. Hard to believe but when you see Su-30 at 16 million $ it's quite in the range.

A complete S-400 unit consists of a lot of vehicles. Plus a number of missiles.
That adds up.

https://tass.com/defense/1779303

"Outfitting air defense and anti-ballistic missile defense troops with advanced armament is a priority task in developing the Aerospace Forces. As of today, the share of modern weapons stands at 82% and it is necessary to increase this figure to 85% in the next two years," Shoigu said.

"This year, the troops will receive the first S-500 next-generation air defense systems in two modifications: long-range surface-to-air missile systems and anti-ballistic missile defense complexes, and also S-400, S-300V4, Buk-M3 and Tor-M2U anti-aircraft missile systems and new-generation radar stations," the defense chief said.

I dont know what he means by the S-500 having 2 modifications.

1 is long range against Aviation and the other is against BM's.

Russia prefers to have specialized weapons for specific tasks rather than an end all be all method west does where it ends up as sub par performance.

The two systems will use the same trucks, but the ABM version will get an additional specialised radar.
The AD version could get more fire control radars.

God of Fire: What We Know About Russia’s S-500 Prometheus Missile System, by Ilya Tsukanov for Sputnikglobe.com. 04.23.2024.

Russia’ defence ministry confirmed on Tuesday that the military will be receiving additional S-500 missile systems this year. Russian and foreign observers alike have touted them as perhaps the most sophisticated and powerful air and missile defence system in the world. Here’s why.

Russia’s Air Defense Troops will be getting a much-needed boost to their capabilities this year amid the ongoing NATO proxy war in Ukraine, including the new S-500 air and missile defence system.

“This year, the troops will receive the first units of the new-generation S-500 anti-aircraft missile system in two modifications – long-range anti-aircraft missile systems and missile defense systems,” defense minister Sergei Shoigu said in a briefing Tuesday.

In addition, Shoigu said, defence manufacturers will deliver new S-400s, S-300V4s, Buk-M3s, Tor-M2Us and unspecified “new generation radar systems,” beefing up Russia’s integrated anti-air and anti-missile shield.

Responsible for keeping the airspace above the largest landmass on Earth clear of threats, Russia’s air defence forces will need all the help they can get in the coming months, especially after the US and Britain moved this week to dramatically escalate the Ukrainian crisis by approving tens of billions of dollars in new arms assistance, including Storm Shadow cruise missiles, and potentially, ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles.

The S-500 Prometey (lit. ‘Prometheus’ – as in the ancient Greek god of fire) is a road-mobile air and missile defense system created by Almaz-Antey – Russia’s premier developer and manufacturer of missile-based anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense weapons. For starters, let’s get the system’s basic characteristics out of the way:

- The system has a range of up to 600 km, and the ability to detect targets at up to 800 km away.

- The S-500 can simultaneously target up to 10 ballistic supersonic targets flying at speeds up to 7 km/s.

- It can also attack targets flying at hypersonic speeds (up to Mach 10, or 12,348 km per hour).

The S-500’s range is sufficient to disable enemy missiles, spacecraft, and orbital weapons platforms in space at low-Earth orbits.

- The system’s interceptor missiles maneuver in flight, and feature independent onboard radar components enabling them to engage in kinetic attacks.

- The S-500 can be incorporated into a single air and missile defense network alongside the S-400, S-300VM4, S-350 Vityaz and other systems.

Composition

Like other systems in its class, the S-500 consists not only of launchers, but a complex, difficult-to-decipher ecosystem of accompanying equipment (which can be mixed and matched depending on needs) including one or more target acquisition radars, counter-jamming equipment, command post, and one or more reloader vehicles.

Because of the S-500’s designation for use at long ranges against missiles, aircraft and spacecraft and limited to no utility against short-range threats, the system is a high-value target which ideally should be accompanied at all times by Buk, Pantsir-S and/or other shorter-range air defense systems to protect it.

The S-500’s configuration may include:

- Multiple 77P6 launch vehicles containing the air and missile defence missiles. The heart of the system. The S-500 is easily distinguishable from the S-400 and other S-series launch vehicles thanks to its dual launch container payload, instead of the usual four;

- 55K6MA or 85Zh6-1/85Zh6-2 command post vehicle;

- 91N6A(M) early warning target acquisition and battle management radar;

- 96L6-1 acquisition radar, and/or 76T6/77T6 ABM engagement active phased array radar;

- 96L6 mobile high altitude detector radar (optional);

- 97L6 advanced air and missile defence control system (optional);

- 40V6MT universal mobile control tower mast (optional).

Missiles

A new generation of anti-aircraft and anti-missile missiles were developed specifically for the S-500. According to publicly available information, missiles used by the system include:

-- 77N6-N and 77N6-N1 interceptors for missile defence and anti-satellite/spacecraft purposes. Adopted into service in 2022. Developed by MKB Fakel, an Almaz-Antey subsidiary with over 70 years’ experience developing surface-to-air guided missiles;

- 40N6M anti-aircraft missiles;

- 40V6MT universal mobile control tower mast (optional).

Capabilities

Russian and foreign military observers agree that the S-500’s declared characteristics make it indisputably the most sophisticated air and missile defense system in the world – and one likely to remain without analogues for years to come.

“The S-500 is a robotic complex. In automatic mode and with elements of artificial intelligence, it is able to determine target type, separate friend from foe, select the most dangerous target, select the required type of missiles and fire them. All of this is carried out under the control of human operators, but can take place either in fully manual mode, when each function is performed by the operator, or in automatic mode,” Russia military expert Yuri Knutov wrote in an analysis about the Prometheus in 2022.

The S-500 is an important tool for Russia’s increasingly dense air and missile defense umbrella which can help protect entire cities from enemy attack, defense affairs observer Alexander Khrolenko believes.

“It can be the lead complex alongside the S-400, S-350 Vityaz, S-300 and Pantsir complex. And the greatest value of the S-500, given its anti-missile capabilities, is that it can be deployed first to cover cities with a population of over one million people, and the most important military and administrative facilities,” thus “deploying an umbrella of missile defense over our country,” Khrolenko wrote in a piece for Sputnik’s Belarusian sister site in 2022.

“As part of the state armament program running until the year 2025, it’s planned to purchase five S-500 brigade sets, which will be combined with the A-135 missile defense system operating in central Russia. In the future, the ground-based S-500 may get a ship-based version,” the observer added.

“Under its ‘Prompt Global Strike’ concept, the United States can fire up to 6,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an enemy nation target in a single salvo. In the event of a military conflict with Russia, this concept uses all meaning. The surprise use of cruise missiles and ICBMs by the Pentagon and NATO against the territory of the Russian Federation would be deflected by air and missile defense systems. At the same time, retaliation against the aggressor using hypersonic, cruise and intercontinental missiles would take place.” Here, the S-500 acts as a key component of Russia’s air defense shield, and a “new technological breakthrough on a cosmic scale,” according to Khrolenko.

Foreign observers agree, with an analysis by Military Watch Magazine in 2022 calling the S-500 a force multiplier for Russia’s Air Defense Troops, enhancing its ability to destroy both missile and space-based threats and fifth-gen military aircraft such as the F-22 and the F-35 (which the S-400 can also target).

Knutov says that for the United States to get a rough analogue of the S-500’s capabilities, its engineers would need to combine, and then upgrade, several of its existing systems.

“For the complex to work equally well against aerial and ballistic targets, the Americans would need to combine the ground-based Aegis Ashore complex with the Patriot missile system, or the THAAD complex with the Patriot complex. This would be expensive, and not very effective, especially because THAAD works only in certain sectors of fire. To change the firing sector, it would be necessary to take down and redeploy the station in the desired direction,” he said.

The S-500, on the other hand, is rapidly deployable, and can be made ready for use in a matter of minutes, and pack up and leave just as quickly for rapid departure to avoid being spotted and struck after launching its missiles. Besides that, the S-500’s 600 km firing range is up to triple that of the THAAD or Patriots’ capabilities.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240423/greek-god-of-fire-what-we-know-about-russias-s-500-prometheus-missile-system-1118074871.html

can fire up to 6,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an enemy nation target in a single salvo. 

“Under its ‘Prompt Global Strike’ concept, the United States can fire up to 6,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an enemy nation target in a single salvo.

The range is not good enough for a surprise attack, and they do not have enough ground launchers. They also only have enough ships for this if they commit their entire navy and forgo AD armament, meaning that the Russians would know well in advance what is up and be able to destroy the ships before they could get into range.

There is also the problem that the pindos do not have 6000 nuclear warheads, and the conventional munitions the tomahawks carry are rather anemic.

the event of a military conflict with Russia, this concept uses all meaning. The surprise use of cruise missiles and ICBMs by the Pentagon and NATO against the territory of the Russian Federation would be deflected by air and missile defense systems wrote:

Russia is unable to stop a massive SLBM and ICBM attack. The US still has enough nuclear potential to completely destroy Russia.

Hole wrote:

can fire up to 6,000 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an enemy nation target in a single salvo. 

They really live in la la land

do not have 6000 nuclear warheads

They do not have 6.000 Tomahawks. 

They do not have 6.000 Tomahawk wrote:

They have over 3,000 Tomahawk and about 5,000 JASSM, the number of which is constantly growing. Including other cruise missiles such as Storm Shadow, Tartus, etc., they can launch a powerful salvo. Would not underestimate the West and its capabilities in striking cruise missiles, not to mention ICBMs and SLBMs

Arrow wrote:

They have over 3,000 Tomahawk and about 5,000 JASSM, the number of which is constantly growing. Including other cruise missiles such as Storm Shadow, Tartus, etc., they can launch a powerful salvo.  Would not underestimate the West and its capabilities in striking cruise missiles, not to mention ICBMs and SLBMs

Missiles don't last forever, neither their carriers. Russia has has a shit ton of modern shorads to defend also.

West has nothing to defend against russian missiles or geran 2. Once russians target european energy infrastructure it will be a nightmare.

Once russians target european energy infrastructure it will be a nightmare. West has nothing to defend against russian missiles or geran 2. wrote:

It won't attack because it will escalate to nuclear war. Russia is unable to stop American ICBMs, SLBMs, and French SLBMs. Here, the strategy of nuclear deterrence and mutual destruction works both ways.

 3,000 Tomahawk and about 5,000 JASSM

So NATO can field roughly 10.000 cruise missiles, most of them of shorter range (which means a lot of Russia is out of range).
Usually western weapons got a fail rate of roughly 30%, judging by past conflicts.
The SMO has shown that Russia is capable of shooting down around 85% of cruise missiles.
This will leave around 1.100 cruise missiles that will hit something in Russia.
Compare that to the up to 9.000+ missiles that Russia used up to this day against Banderaland, from which 90% hit their targets.
Now compare the size of Banderaland and Russia.

Powerful salvo?
Maybe.
But not enough.
And after that NATO would be out of long-range weapons.

What the heck are you even disputing, other than bold pointed troll extravaganza?
The info is that they will use 6k Tomahawks.
The answer is that tyeh don't have so many.
The answer is right&clear.
Trolls ejaculation is that they have a that, that, that, and some of those, end even that.
Hip hip hurray, all combined makes 6k finally.
Fukin' great!
The answer is that they won't last long enough to make a difference.
Correct.
So the trolls answer is that "they have nukes!"
Geee!
Really?!?
Ooooo how much impressed am I!
Really want to exchange nuke strikes, when one side has an arsenal younger by THREE FUKIN DECADES in a best case scenario?
Jesus Fukin' Savior of the Dumbasses, have some mercy on this case.

Arrow wrote:

They have over 3,000 Tomahawk and about 5,000 JASSM, the number of which is constantly growing. Including other cruise missiles such as Storm Shadow, Tartus, etc., they can launch a powerful salvo.  Would not underestimate the West and its capabilities in striking cruise missiles, not to mention ICBMs and SLBMs

Still watching the same binkov huh

Boy I thought you would have switched to something new by now

Arrow wrote:
They have over 3,000 Tomahawk and about 5,000 JASSM, the number of which is constantly growing. Including other cruise missiles such as Storm Shadow, Tartus, etc., they can launch a powerful salvo.  Would not underestimate the West and its capabilities in striking cruise missiles, not to mention ICBMs and SLBMs

8000 missile strikes might be enough to bring Ukraine to its knees but a monster like Russia - probably the best you can do is a bloody nose.

Can't even rely on nukes because most of them are duds. The ICBMs are all 50 years and the youngest Ohio boomer is close to 30 years old.

Really want to exchange nuke strikes, when one side has an arsenal younger by THREE FUKIN DECADES in a best case scenario?

Which means the nuclear tipped missiles will likely have the same failure rate of around 30% as the conventional ones.

I can't remember Russkie strategic missile test that went wrong, in the last decade+
While they are staging those regularly.
All the "failed tests" claimed in the western shitstrem are usually nothing burgers, or assisted to the regular testing program of new missiles in development.
At the same time, UK Trident failure rate was 100%, and US faced at least one failed start I can remember ad hoc - no time&will to search for it.
And they don't carry those tests on a planned&regular manner!
Trident is the newest missile they own.
Only France has a few newer missiles, but those have hardly been tested either - French nuclear deterrence tests are very rare animal.
But - which one could consider as a joke if not that it is a reality - France is producing fewer missiles than four operational subs can carry, because of ... one being in maintenance anyway. So they are making a 48 missiles series for every missile they have, let it be M45, or M51.1, 51.2 or next step 51.3 ...
Minuteman 3 tests end up in failures at a rate of around 50%.
What we are even talking about?