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    S-500 'Prometheus' and S-550 missile systems

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    Post  medo Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:54 pm

    https://ria.ru/20211229/s-500-1766015268.html

    МОСКВА, 29 дек — РИА Новости. В российской Арктике состоялись испытания зенитной ракетной системы (ЗРС) С-500, сообщил РИА Новости информированный источник.
    "Пуск дальнобойной ракетной системы был выполнен по гиперзвуковой мишени, цель успешно поражена", — рассказал собеседник агентства.

    MOSCOW, December 29 - RIA Novosti. In the Russian Arctic, tests of the S-500 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) took place, an informed source told RIA Novosti.
    "The launch of the long-range missile system was carried out at a hypersonic target, the target was successfully hit," the agency's interlocutor said.


    https://www.chinadailyhk.com/article/253433

    December 25, 2021
    Russia conducts successful salvo launch of Tsirkon missiles

    MOSCOW - Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Friday Russia conducted a successful salvo launch of Tsirkon hypersonic missiles early Friday morning.

    "A salvo launch of the Tsirkon hypersonic system was carried out last night, more precisely this morning," RIA Novosti news agency reported citing the president at a joint meeting of the State Council and the Council on Science and Education.

    "This is our latest missile, which can hit both naval and ground targets," he added.

    "The tests were carried out successfully, flawlessly. This is a great event for the country and a significant step aimed at enhancing Russia's security, improving its defense capabilities," Putin said.

    The Russian leader congratulated and thanked the developers, engineers and designers that worked on the hypersonic missile system.

    Quite interesting. S-500 made succesful interception of hypersonic target in the Arctic. If that was ballistic missile, they would say it intercepted ballistic missile, but with supersonic target, they most probably mean hypersonic cruise missile. Hypersonic targets for air defense training don't exist yet, so it could shot down only one of actual test hypersonic missiles. Be it Kinzhal or Zircon.

    Here we come to another interesting moment, that both tests happened at similar time and in similar place in Arctic. Considering that at Christmass time Gorshkov frigate launched salvo of more missiles (not known exact number), there is a good chance, that one of those test Zircon missiles was used as hypersonic target for S-500. Both were there at the same time, so it is possible. Zircon fly at max speed of 8 to 9 Mach.

    If we could prove or Russia confirm, that S-500 successfully shot down Zircon missile, than Russia already have effective defense against hypersonic treats, considering that Zircon is faster than US X-51, which fly at max speed of 5 to 6 Mach.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:52 pm

    It's very interesting what they were shooting at.  Unfortunately, the Russians did not provide any details.  Neither on the missile defense test, nor on Cirkon's recent tests.  There wasn't even video material.
    In Russia, unfortunately, there is a tendency when it comes to secrecy.
    With them, many things must have a veil of secrecy.
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    Post  Mir Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:15 pm

    Arrow wrote:It's very interesting what they were shooting at.  Unfortunately, the Russians did not provide any details.  Neither on the missile defense test, nor on Cirkon's recent tests.  There wasn't even video material.
    In Russia, unfortunately, there is a tendency when it comes to secrecy.
    With them, many things must have a veil of secrecy.

    Why give away secrets when you know you have an edge? All the enemy NEEDS to know is that you have it.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:50 pm

    If we could prove or Russia confirm, that S-500 successfully shot down Zircon missile, than Russia already have effective defense against hypersonic treats, considering that Zircon is faster than US X-51, which fly at max speed of 5 to 6 Mach. LIKE wrote:

    Generally, there is nothing to compare here. Cirkon is a ready-made weapon with guidance systems, etc. Anti-ship missile and for attacking ground targets. The X 51 is just a scramjet demonstrator and nothing else. In addition, they have not made any progress in 10 years.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:11 pm

    Russia has some hypersonic targets, if I am not wrong derived from old S-300 missiles, and they can manoeuvrer too. The Iskander is also a hypersonic aeroballistic missile, if they were trying to test against some advanced real weapon.
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    Post  Singular_Transform Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:53 pm

    Those are old S-125 missiles, countles of them on stock.

    They use them as target for modern SAMs.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:47 am

    Russia has stacks of old SAMs, they produced them in enormous numbers at the time... many of which could be used as targets for testing all sorts of things...

    I seem to remember reading an article on target drones for modern air defences written in the 1990s that stated that of the 100,000 SA-1 missiles produced they had used about 13,000 during the operational life in tests and practise and since it was retired as target drones... even if they have used that number again they should still have a few, let alone later missiles which were all also made in enormous numbers... and also used as target drones over the period as well...
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:00 am

    MOSCOW, January 10. / TASS /. The S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) will arrive in the southern parts of the Russian army until 2025. This was announced by the commander of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Southern Military District (YuVO), Lieutenant General Nikolai Gostev in an interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper, published on Monday.
    "Until 2025,it is planned to supply Su-34, Su-30SM, Su-35S aircraft, Ka-52, Mi-8AMTSh-VN helicopters, S-500 Prometey anti-aircraft missile systems," Gostev said.

    As previously reported by a TASS source, the new S-550 air defense system based on the S-500 Prometheus air defense system will, together with it, provide anti-missile and anti-space defense of Russia's strategic facilities. "The S-550 air defense system will not replace the S-500, because it is not more perfect than its predecessor. In fact, it is a somewhat lighter version of it. The new system will have slightly different combat missions than the Prometheus. And force methods impacts on threatening objects will also differ, "he said.

    My opinion not related to TASS; If they say 2025, it means that S-500 will be delivered this or maybe next year.

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