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    S-500 'Prometheus' and S-550 missile systems

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    Post  medo Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:54 pm

    https://ria.ru/20211229/s-500-1766015268.html

    МОСКВА, 29 дек — РИА Новости. В российской Арктике состоялись испытания зенитной ракетной системы (ЗРС) С-500, сообщил РИА Новости информированный источник.
    "Пуск дальнобойной ракетной системы был выполнен по гиперзвуковой мишени, цель успешно поражена", — рассказал собеседник агентства.

    MOSCOW, December 29 - RIA Novosti. In the Russian Arctic, tests of the S-500 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) took place, an informed source told RIA Novosti.
    "The launch of the long-range missile system was carried out at a hypersonic target, the target was successfully hit," the agency's interlocutor said.


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    December 25, 2021
    Russia conducts successful salvo launch of Tsirkon missiles

    MOSCOW - Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Friday Russia conducted a successful salvo launch of Tsirkon hypersonic missiles early Friday morning.

    "A salvo launch of the Tsirkon hypersonic system was carried out last night, more precisely this morning," RIA Novosti news agency reported citing the president at a joint meeting of the State Council and the Council on Science and Education.

    "This is our latest missile, which can hit both naval and ground targets," he added.

    "The tests were carried out successfully, flawlessly. This is a great event for the country and a significant step aimed at enhancing Russia's security, improving its defense capabilities," Putin said.

    The Russian leader congratulated and thanked the developers, engineers and designers that worked on the hypersonic missile system.

    Quite interesting. S-500 made succesful interception of hypersonic target in the Arctic. If that was ballistic missile, they would say it intercepted ballistic missile, but with supersonic target, they most probably mean hypersonic cruise missile. Hypersonic targets for air defense training don't exist yet, so it could shot down only one of actual test hypersonic missiles. Be it Kinzhal or Zircon.

    Here we come to another interesting moment, that both tests happened at similar time and in similar place in Arctic. Considering that at Christmass time Gorshkov frigate launched salvo of more missiles (not known exact number), there is a good chance, that one of those test Zircon missiles was used as hypersonic target for S-500. Both were there at the same time, so it is possible. Zircon fly at max speed of 8 to 9 Mach.

    If we could prove or Russia confirm, that S-500 successfully shot down Zircon missile, than Russia already have effective defense against hypersonic treats, considering that Zircon is faster than US X-51, which fly at max speed of 5 to 6 Mach.
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    Post  Arrow Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:52 pm

    It's very interesting what they were shooting at.  Unfortunately, the Russians did not provide any details.  Neither on the missile defense test, nor on Cirkon's recent tests.  There wasn't even video material.
    In Russia, unfortunately, there is a tendency when it comes to secrecy.
    With them, many things must have a veil of secrecy.
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    Post  Mir Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:15 pm

    Arrow wrote:It's very interesting what they were shooting at.  Unfortunately, the Russians did not provide any details.  Neither on the missile defense test, nor on Cirkon's recent tests.  There wasn't even video material.
    In Russia, unfortunately, there is a tendency when it comes to secrecy.
    With them, many things must have a veil of secrecy.

    Why give away secrets when you know you have an edge? All the enemy NEEDS to know is that you have it.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:50 pm

    If we could prove or Russia confirm, that S-500 successfully shot down Zircon missile, than Russia already have effective defense against hypersonic treats, considering that Zircon is faster than US X-51, which fly at max speed of 5 to 6 Mach. LIKE wrote:

    Generally, there is nothing to compare here. Cirkon is a ready-made weapon with guidance systems, etc. Anti-ship missile and for attacking ground targets. The X 51 is just a scramjet demonstrator and nothing else. In addition, they have not made any progress in 10 years.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:11 pm

    Russia has some hypersonic targets, if I am not wrong derived from old S-300 missiles, and they can manoeuvrer too. The Iskander is also a hypersonic aeroballistic missile, if they were trying to test against some advanced real weapon.
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    Post  Singular_Transform Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:53 pm

    Those are old S-125 missiles, countles of them on stock.

    They use them as target for modern SAMs.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:47 am

    Russia has stacks of old SAMs, they produced them in enormous numbers at the time... many of which could be used as targets for testing all sorts of things...

    I seem to remember reading an article on target drones for modern air defences written in the 1990s that stated that of the 100,000 SA-1 missiles produced they had used about 13,000 during the operational life in tests and practise and since it was retired as target drones... even if they have used that number again they should still have a few, let alone later missiles which were all also made in enormous numbers... and also used as target drones over the period as well...
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:00 am

    MOSCOW, January 10. / TASS /. The S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) will arrive in the southern parts of the Russian army until 2025. This was announced by the commander of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Southern Military District (YuVO), Lieutenant General Nikolai Gostev in an interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper, published on Monday.
    "Until 2025,it is planned to supply Su-34, Su-30SM, Su-35S aircraft, Ka-52, Mi-8AMTSh-VN helicopters, S-500 Prometey anti-aircraft missile systems," Gostev said.

    As previously reported by a TASS source, the new S-550 air defense system based on the S-500 Prometheus air defense system will, together with it, provide anti-missile and anti-space defense of Russia's strategic facilities. "The S-550 air defense system will not replace the S-500, because it is not more perfect than its predecessor. In fact, it is a somewhat lighter version of it. The new system will have slightly different combat missions than the Prometheus. And force methods impacts on threatening objects will also differ, "he said.

    My opinion not related to TASS; If they say 2025, it means that S-500 will be delivered this or maybe next year.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:10 pm

    Has the S-500 been tested against an ICBM like target?
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:25 am

    I would think so.

    They describe the top speed the target can move at as being 7km per second which means most SLBMs and IRBMs and ICBMs would be in danger of being intercepted by the system.
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    Post  LMFS Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:27 pm

    Almaz-Antey announces mass production of the new S-500 air defense system

    Moscow. April 25. Almaz-Antey is mass-producing a new generation of S-500 air defense systems, the concern's General Director Jan Novikov has said.

    "Currently, mass production of the S-500 system is organized using the latest achievements of domestic science and technology. The combat capabilities of this system significantly exceed the capabilities of previously created air defense systems and SAMs. The S-500 is capable of becoming the basis of the Russian aerospace defense system. It will be delivered to the troops within the time limits set by the state defense order, " Novikov said in an interview with the National Defense magazine.
    The S-500 Prometheus system developed by Almaz-Antey Concern is a new generation of long-range air defense systems that can shoot down targets in near space.
    On July 20 last year, at the MAKS-2021 air show, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said that serial deliveries of the S-500 to the Russian military will begin in 2022. On the same day, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on the successful firing of the S-500 and for the first time published footage of tests of this system. The Defense Ministry then said that after completing the full test cycle, the equipment plans provide for the delivery of the first S-500 system to the air defense and missile defense association near Moscow.
    Earlier, the commander-in-chief of the Aerospace Forces, Sergei Surovikin, said that the S-500 will be able to destroy satellites and hypersonic weapons of all modifications in near space.

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=0&nid=573431&lang=RU

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    Post  George1 Wed May 18, 2022 11:47 am

    State-of-the-art S-500 air defense weapons arriving for Russian troops — deputy PM

    https://tass.com/defense/1452551

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    Post  George1 Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:03 pm

    Defense firm signs contract on delivery of S-500 air defense systems to Russian troops

    https://tass.com/defense/1494269

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    Post  Kiko Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:14 pm

    Washington "will get hypersonic missiles in 5 years, but Russia already has countermeasures". 10.27.2022.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The United States could start producing hypersonic missiles within three to five years, and Russia's response will be its advanced S-500 anti-aircraft system, military expert Igor Korotchenko said.

    "Despite the previous failures, the United States is continuing work on creating hypersonic missiles. The process will end with the incorporation of these weapons into the American arsenal. In Russia, they should take into account that the American army will have such missiles within three to five years," Korotchenko told Sputnik.

    The media claimed that the US Navy had successfully tested some components of the hypersonic missiles.
    Korotchenko stressed that by that time Russia should increase the number of its advanced S-500 anti-aircraft systems capable of intercepting hypersonic missiles.

    In July 2021, several media outlets reported that the Russian Ministry of Defense had sealed a contract with the Almaz-Antey company to acquire more than ten S-500 systems. In August of this year, another agreement was signed with Almaz-Antey for the delivery of more units.

    According to official sources, with a range of 600 kilometers, the S-500 can simultaneously shoot down up to ten ballistic targets moving at supersonic speeds (up to 7 kilometers per second) and destroy hypersonic missile warheads.

    Russia is leading hypersonic technologies with its advanced Avangard missile already incorporated into its arsenal since the end of 2019. With a speed 20 times higher than that of sound, the projectile can outwit existing and developing defences.

    The Russian army also has the Kinzhal hypersonic missile, which with a range of 2,000 kilometers, develops a speed ten times higher than that of sound and can bypass all existing anti-missile shields. To this is added the naval version called Tsirkon.

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    https://sputniknews.lat/20221027/washington-obtendra-misiles-hipersonicos-en-5-anos-pero-rusia-ya-cuenta-con-contramedidas-1131882527.html

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    Post  lancelot Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:48 am

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/03/29/russia-to-upgrade-moscows-missile-defenses-by-years-end/
    Russia to upgrade Moscow’s missile defenses by year’s end
    March 29, 2023
    MOSCOW — Russia will finish modernizing the missile defense systems protecting its capital by the end of the year, according to Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu.

    The announcement comes amid the war in Ukraine, which has entered its second year. And earlier this week, Russia said a Ukrainian drone crashed and caused a fatal explosion in a town 175 kilometers (109 miles) south of Moscow. Ukraine did not immediately comment on the report, while Russia’s Defence Ministry said the drone crashed after an electronic jamming system disabled its navigation.

    Russian state-run news agency Tass said authorities identified the drone as a Ukrainian Tu-141. The Soviet-era drone was reintroduced in Ukraine in 2014 and has a range of about 1,000 kilometers.

    Shoigu made the announcement about Moscow’s defenses at a board meeting of his ministry this month. In 2023, he said, the country will form an air defense division and brigade, a special-purpose air and missile defense brigade, and an anti-aircraft regiment with the S-350 surface-to-air missile complex.

    Developing aerospace defense capabilities has been a major component of Russia’s State Armament Program since 2020. That effort has accounted for about 17.5% of the 3.4 trillion rubles (U.S. $44.3 billion) spent on the program since it began in 2011.

    The program is meant to lead to the deployment of 100 battalions, which include 800 launchers made up of the S-400, S-350 and S-500 missile systems. Under the latest iteration of Russia’s State Armament Program, also known as GPV-2027, funds will help with the production of the S-500. The previous iteration, GPV-2020, laid out efforts to create, produce and maintain military equipment.

    Currently, Russia’s air and missile defense forces control 1st Air and Missile Defense Army, which defends Moscow and the central industrial district. The 1st Air and Missile Defense Army has regiments equipped with S-300 or S-400 systems, but Shoigu said the force is to receive S-350 weapons.

    In total, according to the 2018-2027 timeline for the State Armament Program, Russian forces will receive 12 battalions of the S-350 to replace the S-300. Six S-350 launchers are already in service, but the 1st Air Missile Defense Army has not yet received this weapon.

    Regarding the planned special-purpose air and missile defense brigade, Russia will arm the 15th Aerospace Forces Army with the S-500, which can counter ballistic missiles.

    The S-500 has been under development since the early 2000s. In 2011, Russia unveiled plans for two new plants to produce the S-500; they opened in 2016. In 2020, analysts with the Russian military news outlet Avia.pro estimated one S-500 — including launchers, radar, the command post, missiles and technical vehicles — costs $700-800 million.

    In 2019, production of the S-500 began for the Aerospace Forces. The Defence Ministry and local company Almaz-Antey signed a contract for the supply of more than 10 S-500s in 2021, with the first delivery expected in 2022. The 15th Aerospace Forces Army received the first S-500 prototype in 2021, but no delivery took place last year.

    Shoigu also said his ministry will put the space control station Razvyazka on combat alert this year. This is a replacement for the Dunai-3U long-range radar station, which was in service from 1978 until the early 2000s. The Dunai-3U is located in the Chekhov district of the Moscow region, where the Razvyazka is based.

    The Razvyazka early warning radar will complement the existing Don-2N radar station, which has operated around Moscow since 1989 and received upgrades in recent years.

    Russian company Radiofizika said at the MAKS military conference in 2021 the Razvyazka is a P-band radar whose main purpose is cataloging and working with high-orbit space objects. According to the company, about 1 billion rubles went toward developing this radar in 2014.

    The State Armament Program is also expected to accomplish the following tasks by 2027:

    * The creation of the S-550, an anti-missile and anti-space system with improved detection capabilities and a greater range compared to the S-400 and S-500. The Aerospace Forces are to receive the S-550 by 2025. However, Russia hasn’t announced test launches.

    * Designating the A-235 Nudol anti-missile and anti-satellite system as one of the top defense priorities. The ground-based, mobile, non-nuclear system should be capable of hitting objects in orbit at a maximum altitude of 700 kilometers (435 miles). Russia is creating it to replace the Soviet-era A-135 system. The A-235′s 12th test launch took place in December 2022 at the Sary Shagan test site in Kazakhstan.

    * Delivering Pantsir S-1 anti-aircraft weapons to Russia’s air and missile defense forces to protect the other systems defending the country. A total of 507 items will be delivered to the Aerospace Forces this year. According to Shoigu, about 85% of the Aerospace Forces’ equipment will be modernized versions by the end of the year.

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    Post  LMFS Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:57 pm

    Prometheus test: the S-500 system passed the exam to combat hypersound

    https://iz.ru/1656115/aleksei-mikhailov-roman-kretcul/ognem-prometeia-sistema-s-500-sdala-ekzamen-po-borbe-s-giperzvukom

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 am

    LMFS wrote:
    Prometheus test: the S-500 system passed the exam to combat hypersound

    Damn S500 intercepted SLBM??

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:44 pm

    So the S-500 system was tested this month (22.) and shot down the R-29RMU2 SLBM launched from the sub Tula, according to multiple sources
    in Russia.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:42 pm

    So Russia has a mobile ABM system against ICBM/SLBM

    Wow

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    Post  PhSt Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:22 am


    So Russia has a mobile ABM system against ICBM/SLBM

    I hope Russia will also design a naval version of this system as a counterpart to the NATzO Standard 3 missile

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:53 am

    Do they even need an S-500 to intercept a SLBM?

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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:14 am

    In the video Seph posted above in post number 294, the close up of the launch at about 48 seconds into the video shows the missile blurred as it launches.

    The launcher itself looks like the larger of the two launchers/missiles of the S-300V system but clearly the missile itself must be rather different for them to want to keep its shape and size secret like this.

    It is indeed a mobile ABM system, and with the vehicle looking like the larger launcher in the S-300V4 system you could deploy it and few would realise whether it is an air defence system or a system to protect your country from nuclear ballistic missile attack.

    With the New START treaty the US is allowed 1500 warheads, but 1/3rd will be ICBMs and 1/3rd will be SLBMs and 1/3rd will be cruise missiles delivered by strategic bombers.

    Having these systems dotted around the Russian territory near targets of importance (not Moscow because it has its own missiles) and the expansion of production of the missiles around Moscow which are no longer restricted by the ABM treaty means you can have a Moscow system around St Petersberg and Vladivostok and Sevastopol and other main centres leaving this system to cover the rest... their ABM network would be rather impressive really.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:58 am

    I hope Russia will also design a naval version of this system as a counterpart to the NATzO Standard 3 missile

    When they were talking about the S-550 they mentioned that it was more optimised for anti satellite use and for targets moving faster than 7km/s, they specifically said there would not be a naval version because of its anti satellite role.

    Though they didn't say specifically I took that to mean that there would be a naval S-500, which would be better than the SM-6 and SM-3 ABM missiles the USN uses, but they have always been very vague about their performance details anyway, and test results seem patchy at best.
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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:06 am

    In the video Seph posted 
    The video is a mishmash of open source material.

    Do they even need an S-500 to intercept a SLBM?
    Maybe one missile has a malfunction and... works.  lol1

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