New combat aircraft will be presented at MAKS-2021

GarryB wrote:Amusing you think they have developed a whole new plane in secret... shows how effective western intel is today... bellingcat probably has similar access to satellite photos and is likely as up to date as the US intel...

If they had the rubles to build a new plane and this is it ready for purchase at MAKS21... I hope a lot of countries took their cheque books, but why would they be hyping it like this if it was already ready.

This roll out under a tarp was done with the Su-57 in 2009 for a taxi, it didn't take off till a year or two later and is only entering service now... a decade later.

medo wrote:
True. But there is a difference. In that time Russian industry was not as developed as today and Su-57 was the first fifth gen fighter jet and whole new technology have to be developed, tested and matured to get into production. This new one will simply take already developed and matured technology from Su-57, so it will not take that long to go in production. Many things were tested in Su-57 and in S-70 Ohotnik...

medo wrote:

Russian_Patriot_ wrote:Front view

From this picture, it could be clearly seen, that it has side air intakes and not under nose. I wonder if this is just mock up or actual prototype. Undercarriage and engine looks real.

PapaDragon wrote:They got nobody but themselves to blame

They were sitting on their asses for 30 years and now Sukhoi is taking their lunch money

GarryB wrote:Amusing you think they have developed a whole new plane in secret... shows how effective western intel is today

Isos wrote:It has the same intakes as on f-35 it seems.

RTN wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:They got nobody but themselves to blame

They were sitting on their asses for 30 years and now Sukhoi is taking their lunch money

Precisely! Despite the massive success of the Mig 29.

GarryB wrote:Amusing you think they have developed a whole new plane in secret... shows how effective western intel is today

Single engine version of the Su 57 it seems.

Kiko wrote:Hopefully it can accommodate a Kh-32 in its internal bays intended for Elizabethan CVN fired from Argentinian one near the Malvinas Islands.

Dima wrote:

Kiko wrote:Hopefully it can accommodate a Kh-32 in its internal bays intended for Elizabethan CVN fired from Argentinian one near the Malvinas Islands.

We can only hope that the weapons bay is large enough to accomadate a decent size missile.

One of the reason why I dislike the single engined "stealth" aircraft, that too powered by a relatively big engine like AL-series, is that the centreline internal weapons bay gets confined in length and volume.

That's where a twin engined aircraft, powered by smaller RD-series, aircraft excel. Having a good long centreline weapons bay between the twin intake.

dino00 wrote:
Should be very close to Borisov desk plane
Th e advantage of no horizontal stabilizer is in rcs?

limb wrote:So the RD series is in the dustbin of history? Its sad that klimov is going extinct, it was a truly great engine design bureau.

medo wrote:



Agree. We all expect new light fighter from MiG, but this one is from Sukhoi. It is interesting, that they keep it in secret and now made a total surprise. I think they hide this project with S-70 Ohotnik UCAV. The first prototype of Ohotnik have full engine with afterburner, although it will have stealth nozzle with engine without afterburner. Most probably it is prototype of Ohotnik and simultaneously testbed for new single engine fighter. So I agree, that this is real prototype. Considering how they keep it in secret, I would not be surprized if it already made its first flight. If it will fly in MAKS, that it absolutly made its first flight. That would be an epic surprise.

Mir wrote:
I'll eat two chocolate cakes if it is!

ALAMO wrote:By the way, I will not agree with you who claim that the STOL/VTOL version is not needed.
It is.
And I have the first export customer in mind.
Turkey
As one already said, don't remember who, there are lots of countries who will equip in STOL capable LHDs in near future, so why the Russkies would not want to have something capable of grabbing a piece of cake?
23900 are the next ones in mind, as far as Japan operates its own mini carriers with F-35 on board, and the Kuril issue is still on the table, I guess its own solution to this would be nice.