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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 am

    https://tass.com/defense/1261243

    MOSCOW, March 1. /TASS/. The Russian military and industrial complex commenced the development of the new-generation Kedr strategic missile system, a source in the rocket and space industry told TASS Monday.

    When asked what the Kedr research and development project is, the source said: "It aims to upgrade strategic missile weapons. It is part of the work to develop a new generation [of missile systems]."

    According to the source, the project is currently undergoing the science and development phase.

    "If it progresses to the experiment and design phase, we will be able to talk in substance. So far, it is still a deep R&D stage," the source said.

    Currently, Russian strategic missiles forces are armed with Topol, Topol-M and Yars intercontinental ballistic missiles. Nuclear strategic submarines of projects 955 and 955A are armed with Bulava strategic missiles. The forces gradually adopt the Avangard hypersonic missiles. In December 2020, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko disclosed that the Sarmat heavy missile was about to enter flight trials.

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    Post  dino00 Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:32 pm

    The name suggest a solid fuel ICBM, from land.
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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:08 pm

    dino00 wrote:The name suggest a solid fuel ICBM, from land.

    Not to me. But I think that a new generation of solid rocket ICBMs is now possible. There has been a revolution
    in Russia in terms of solid rocket fuel characteristics. I think that this is related to nanoparticle combustion effects
    not understood and used before the 1990s. It is difficult to employ such effects in liquid fuels even if the suspension
    sediments extremely slowly. There is no mechanical redistribution of the "accelerant" in solid fuel.

    Liquid fuels are a PITA since they will leak any way they can. And ICBMs do not need the throttling of civilian rockets
    so there is no particular value to using liquid fuel.

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    Post  dino00 Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:31 pm

    Кедр in english cedar is a tree...
    Topol Russian name was poplar a tree...
    That's why I think it's a ICBM and solid fuel, land based from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology.

    There's also liquid fueled SLBM, that should be in a more advanced stage
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/12/18/819066-dlya-strategicheskih

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm

    dino00 wrote:Кедр in english cedar is a tree...
    Topol Russian name was poplar a tree...
    That's why I think it's a ICBM and solid fuel, land based from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology.

    There's also liquid fueled SLBM, that should be in a more advanced stage
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/12/18/819066-dlya-strategicheskih

    Correct, solid fuel rockets are named after trees

    This is just standard R&D for regular Yars replacement

    Timeline checks out


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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:47 pm

    dino00 wrote:Кедр in english cedar is a tree...
    Topol Russian name was poplar a tree...
    That's why I think it's a ICBM and solid fuel, land based from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology.

    There's also liquid fueled SLBM, that should be in a more advanced stage
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/12/18/819066-dlya-strategicheskih

    Yars is also using a solid rocket fuel first stage so this naming convention is not self-evident.

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    Post  dino00 Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:19 pm

    kvs wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Кедр in english cedar is a tree...
    Topol Russian name was poplar a tree...
    That's why I think it's a ICBM and solid fuel, land based from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology.

    There's also liquid fueled SLBM, that should be in a more advanced stage
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/12/18/819066-dlya-strategicheskih

    Yars is also using a solid rocket fuel first stage so this naming convention is not self-evident.


    Yars, Topol-M are considered modifications of Topol. And Bulava is a SLBM.
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    Post  George1 Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 pm

    So Кедр is the future replacement of Topol-M
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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:09 pm

    dino00 wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    dino00 wrote:Кедр in english cedar is a tree...
    Topol Russian name was poplar a tree...
    That's why I think it's a ICBM and solid fuel, land based from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology.

    There's also liquid fueled SLBM, that should be in a more advanced stage
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/12/18/819066-dlya-strategicheskih

    Yars is also using a solid rocket fuel first stage so this naming convention is not self-evident.


    Yars, Topol-M  are considered modifications of Topol. And Bulava is a SLBM.

    That is a non sequitur reply.

    The long range artillery has names of flowers. The imagery is of blooming explosions.
    The Siberian Cedar keeps the imagery of Topol valid. The mushroom comparison is not the
    only one.

    No self-evident link to solid rocket fuel whatsoever.

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    Post  dino00 Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:42 pm

    Until this moment only land based solid fuel ICBM developed by Yuri Solomonov have the codename of a tree, don't know how to explain myself better, we have to wait could be something different.

    "so this naming convention is not self-evident"

    "No self-evident link to solid rocket fuel whatsoever."

    Correct. Just a exercise Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am

    Sadly the naming conventions are not always uniform and consistent.... but most systems are not perfect...
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    Post  dino00 Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:29 pm

    The source said that work on the creation of the Kedr rocket will begin in 2023-2024

    According to him, the missiles will come to replace the Yars complexes in service with the Strategic Missile Forces.


    MOSCOW, April 2. / TASS /. Development work (R&D) on the creation of the newest intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) "Kedr" will begin at the turn of 2023-2024. A source in the military-industrial complex told TASS about it.

    "Research work (R&D) on Kedr is funded under the current state armaments program until 2027. R&D will begin in 2023-2024," he said.

    According to him, the Kedr solid-propellant missiles will replace the Yars complexes in service with the Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces) at the turn of 2030. The new ICBMs, like the Yars, will be both mobile and stationary (mine), the agency's source added
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    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/11061617

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:56 pm

    dino00 wrote:The source said that work on the creation of the Kedr rocket will begin in 2023-2024

    According to him, the missiles will come to replace the Yars complexes
    ...

    Oh wait, look at this?

    What's all this then?

    Kedr is solid fuel missile?

    And is Yars replacement?

    And Yars replacement was also named after a tree?

    Just as everyone expected and fully in accordance to usual naming conventions?

    Well almost everyone because thank God for rabbid delusional fanboys

    Let's rewind a bit to previous page and scroll down: https://www.russiadefence.net/t1247p350-strategic-missile-troops-rvsn-discussion-news#314944

    Ah yes, that's the stuff right there thumbsup



    kvs wrote:That is a non sequitur reply...

    Looks like it wasn't ​one after all

    But we could call this new ICBM "Non Sequoia" missile lol1


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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:19 pm

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4331641.html

    Development of a new strategic missile system 15P182 according to the development work "Osina-RV"



    As reported by the Voenno-boltovoy Telegram channel with reference to the open documentation for the object of the state environmental examination, on September 5, 2019, a state contract No. "Corporation" Moscow Institute of Heat Engineering "(MIT) is the lead developer. The basis for the development of the 15P182 missile system is the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of December 26, 2018 and the tactical and technical task of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of February 17, 2019.

    The 15P182 missile system is being created as a modernization of the existing versions of the Yars-M combat missile system with the 15P180 and 15P181 indices.

    Source: documentation for the object of the state ecological expertise. Interested persons can familiarize themselves with the documentation in the department of road and transport infrastructure, entrepreneurship and labor protection of the administration of the MO "Plesetsk district" at the address: Arkhangelsk region, Plesetsk district, p. Plesetsk, st. Lenin, 33, office. 52. Reception hours: from 9-00 to 17-00 on weekdays.

    Public hearings on the object of the state ecological expertise will be held on June 28, 2021 at 15:00 at the address: Arkhangelsk region, Plesetsk district, p. Plesetsk, st. Lenin, 33, office. 40.


    The documentation for the Osina-RV ROC indicates that the need to create a 15P182 missile system is determined by a number of factors of a political, military-technical and economic nature, including:

    - objectively increased requirements for the nomenclature and quality of solving target tasks in the interests of ensuring the defense capability and security of the state;

    - technical wear and tear of the operated complexes and their components, up to the element base.

    Compared with the existing complexes, the expected effect from the creation and operation of the 15P182 complex is:

    - increasing the level of solving individual problems in accordance with modern requirements through the use of new design solutions, technologies, hardware components, software and methodological support;

    - expanding the range of tasks to be solved due to the inclusion of additional tasks and the integration of tasks solved by the predecessor complexes;

    - improving the operational characteristics of the complex;

    - achieving parity at the level of solving target problems with similar foreign products.

    As part of the stationary launcher of the 15P182 missile complex, it is envisaged to use several modifications of the silo launcher (silo), obtained as a result of the conversion of launchers of existing complexes that are being decommissioned in accordance with the treaty obligations of the Russian Federation. The complex being created should provide the ability to deliver various payload options to the trajectory. The tactical and technical assignment provides for the widespread use of proven technical solutions, assemblies, systems and assemblies of solid-propellant missiles and ground equipment of missile systems.

    The composition of the 15P182 complex (at the stage of flight tests):

    - a flight product for delivering various payload options to the trajectory;

    - stationary control center of the 15V242 type;

    - mobile communication complex as a part of units on the Kamaz-6350 chassis;

    - transport and loading unit, consisting of an active semitrailer with a KZKT-74284 tractor (probably, unit 15Т414 - author's note);

    - technical complex;

    - stationary launcher;

    - security system;

    - educational and training means.

    Flight tests of the 15P182 rocket complex will take place at the Plesetsk cosmodrome in 2021-2022. The flight test program announced at least two launches along the Mirny - Kura route. Presumably, the first launch as part of flight tests will take place no earlier than August 2021.

    Flight tests of the 15P182 complex are planned to be carried out in a stationary version.

    Silo silos 15P765-35 at the Yuzhnaya launch site will be upgraded to silos 15P782-35, revision will be carried out using resource-saving technology with the preservation of the protective roof, barbet, drum, shaft with a bottom and reuse of most of the starting equipment - protective roof drives, depreciation systems , elevators and other equipment.

    The insignificant amount of modifications to the launcher means that any of the existing missile regiments of the Strategic Missile Forces with missile systems developed by MIT can subsequently be re-equipped on the 15P182 complex: starting with the already obsolete Topol-M and ending with the newest Yars-M, whose tests were supposed to end last year.

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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:07 pm

    Russia successfully test-launches latest ICBM — source


    As was reported earlier, the Moscow Institute of thermal Technology has started developing the sophisticated Kedr silo-based and mobile ICBM modifications as part of the effort of upgrading Russia’s strategic armaments

    MOSCOW, June 28. /TASS/. The latest intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) developed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology (part of the state space corporation Roscosmos) was successfully test-launched from the Russian Defense Ministry’s 1st state testing spaceport, a source in the domestic defense industry told TASS on Monday.

    "In mid-June, the latest unique ballistic missile developed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology was successfully test-launched from the Plesetsk spaceport," the source said.

    TASS has no official comment from the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology yet.

    As was reported earlier, the Moscow Institute of thermal Technology has started developing the sophisticated Kedr silo-based and mobile ICBM modifications as part of the effort of upgrading Russia’s strategic armaments. The R&D work on the latest ICBM will begin at the turn of 2023-2024.

    The Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology has developed Russia’s Topol, Topol-M, Yars and Bulava ICBMs. On May 13, the Institute led by Chief Designer Yuri Solomonov celebrated its 75th anniversary.


    https://tass.com/defense/1307845

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    Post  dino00 Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:29 pm

    Not Kedr obviously, probably a new modified Yars or a experimental one.
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:36 pm

    dino00 wrote:Not Kedr obviously, probably a new modified Yars or a experimental one.


    ok, if it will be like this then i will merge it with Yars thread
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    Post  Arrow Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:45 pm

    I wonder what it was like. Maybe a new type of Anchar RV. A smaller version of Avangard developed by MIT. Maybe another version of Yars from IPBV. The development of Russian ICBMs and their warheads is amazing. You can get lost in these Yars modifications. Very Happy

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