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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 20, 2021 10:54 pm

    Unusual pattern, length of time over one area and being there at night. Early pattern and later pattern.

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    🇺🇲 #USAF RQ-4B FORTE12 was still airborne over eastern Ukraine this morning.

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    🇺🇲 #USAF RQ-4B Global Hawk FORTE12 (hex #AE5415) rare night-time mission over eastern Ukraine. Flight pattern uncommon too.

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    Post  kvs Fri May 21, 2021 1:23 am



    NATzO is openly wargaming an attack on Crimea.

    This is while chirping that NATzO exercises are purely defensive in nature.

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    Post  auslander Fri May 21, 2021 7:55 am

    JohninMK wrote:Unusual pattern, length of time over one area and being there at night. Early pattern and later pattern.

    SehSha better be careful, the orcs might try to shoot it down to start the war they lust for.

    Looks to me like Uncle Sugar has something they want to 'see' near the border on the Russian side.
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    Post  PhSt Fri May 21, 2021 2:46 pm

    auslander wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Unusual pattern, length of time over one area and being there at night. Early pattern and later pattern.

    SehSha better be careful, the orcs might try to shoot it down to start the war they lust for.

    Looks to me like Uncle Sugar has something they want to 'see' near the border on the Russian side.

    In this kind of situation perhaps Russia can deploy some ECM assets to disrupt any surveillance operations from these drones.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri May 21, 2021 4:59 pm

    PhSt wrote:[
    In this kind of situation perhaps Russia can deploy some ECM assets to disrupt any surveillance operations from these drones.

    Why give the US the opportunity to practice in a hostile ECM environment? Better for the ECM capabilities to come as a nasty surprise on the day its actually needed.

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 22, 2021 8:00 am


    In this kind of situation perhaps Russia can deploy some ECM assets to disrupt any surveillance operations from these drones.

    Intercept its signals perhaps, and look at what they are looking at, but there is no value in trying to stop it.... they could easily send manned aircraft instead... that is not contested airspace...

    Would be interesting to see its flight path in real time... its navigation system is a bit wishy washy when it comes to manouvering and flight precision.
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    Post  kvs Sat May 22, 2021 11:07 pm



    The UK government waves its little dick around. How pathetic.

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    Post  PhSt Mon May 24, 2021 4:11 pm

    US builds up military activity in Ukraine and Black Sea, says Lavrov

    MOSCOW, May 24. /TASS/. The United States is expanding its military activity in Ukraine and arming the Ukrainian army, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with the newspaper Argumenty I Fakty on Monday.

    "I want to use this opportunity to again draw attention to the fact that the United States and its NATO allies are building up their military activity on the territory of Ukraine and in the Black Sea. They are beefing up the Ukrainian army with armaments, rendering it financial and material support and training the Ukrainian armed forces in NATO’s methods of warfare," Russia’s top diplomat said.

    As the Russian foreign minister recalled, seven joint military drills of the Ukrainian army with NATO countries are scheduled to take place on Ukraine’s territory in 2021.

    "This means that maneuvers take place there every six or eight weeks. The Ukrainian military is taking part in NATO’s largest Defender Europe 2021 drills. Russia has to take all these factors into account in its military planning. And, of course, it’s needless to say that Ukraine’s militarization does not contribute to settling the conflict in Donbass," the Russian foreign minister emphasized.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon May 24, 2021 4:20 pm

    At least Russia is making oppen account of this

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    Post  kvs Thu May 27, 2021 8:36 pm

    So Lavrov in an interview with Argumenty i Fakty has essentially asserted that either Kiev abides by Minsk or Russia recognizes the
    independence of Donetsk and Lugansk.

    This is a red line that will be conveyed to Biden in Geneva. The days of appeasement of the frothing at the mouth lunatics in NATzO
    are gone. And you can already see NATzO scrambling.

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    Post  kvs Fri May 28, 2021 3:42 pm



    Prices for food in Ukraine are higher than in Russia on aggregate but people make on average three times less.

    If you listen to Ukr propaganda you would think that Russians are much worse off than Ukrs. This sort of ludicrous BS
    is rampant in Banderastan. Kiev is passing a new law on the "rights" of indigenous Ukrainian minorities but it only
    applies to Crimea, the Tatars and Karaim. Both of those groups are better off after 2014. And this law is transparent
    propaganda since it offers no such defense of Hungarians and indigenous ethnic Russians such as those in the Donbass.

    The Kiev clowns are taking their cue from Uncle Swine-shit and engaging in extra-territorial "do-gooderism".

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sun May 30, 2021 11:59 pm

    kvs wrote:So Lavrov in an interview with Argumenty i Fakty has essentially asserted that either Kiev abides by Minsk or Russia recognizes the
    independence of Donetsk and Lugansk.

    This is a red line that will be conveyed to Biden in Geneva.   The days of appeasement of the frothing at the mouth lunatics in NATzO
    are gone.   And you can already see NATzO scrambling.  


    Imho, after Biden was elected, and the previous U.S. Ukraine players was put into the Biden Administration: Rice ( in charge of his Domestic Policy Council), Nuland (serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs) , Samantha Powers (serving as the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development.), then the Ukraine versus Russia was heated up.

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    Post  kvs Mon May 31, 2021 1:44 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:
    kvs wrote:So Lavrov in an interview with Argumenty i Fakty has essentially asserted that either Kiev abides by Minsk or Russia recognizes the
    independence of Donetsk and Lugansk.

    This is a red line that will be conveyed to Biden in Geneva.   The days of appeasement of the frothing at the mouth lunatics in NATzO
    are gone.   And you can already see NATzO scrambling.  


    Imho, after Biden was elected, and the previous U.S. Ukraine players was put into the Biden Administration: Rice ( in charge of his Domestic Policy Council), Nuland (serving as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs) , Samantha Powers (serving as the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development.), then the Ukraine versus Russia was heated up.

    Yes, indeed. I expected the Biden "regime" to use Ukraine to divert attention from the farcical 2020 US election which saw ridiculous vote counts in favour of the D. Party
    given the pervious 40 years. Tens of millions of extra votes came out of the woodwork. In spite of Covid, this is not credible. It was pure ballot stuffing of
    the 4 am 100% in favour of Biden variety. It looks like the R. Party also tried to pad its way to power since it likely anticipated rampant, Chicago-style D. Party
    ballot fraud. But the D. Party leveraged the MSM anti-Trump hysteria to win this ballot stuffing battle.

    The plan was for the Kiev regime to stage its own variants of Operations Flash and Storm when basically all Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia. The
    Kiev regime and its supporters have been actively talking about getting rid of the "Moskal illegal squatters" in the Donbass since 2014. They believe in the blood
    libel fiction that ethnic Russians settled in the Donbass after the Holodomor genocide wiped out the local ethnic Ukrainians. Anyone in the west with some
    knowledge of international history will know that the Bolsheviks attached the Donbass to their creation, the Ukrainian SSR, to increase its industrial capacity
    since its was mostly rural without these lands. The ethnic Russians in the Donbass (and other ethnic groups such as Serbs and Greeks) were not transplanted,
    the borders were changed without their vote. But Banderites and various Ukrainian nationalists love to twist and steal history.

    Lukashenko was supposed to be deposed as well in some sort of one, two punch in Putin's face. Both operations flopped and Biden is running around setting up
    a summit. I expect the US side to try to pull the same stunt they tried to pull against China in Alaska a few weeks ago. They will try to corner Russia with
    some BS about human rights abuse and military aggression. Because moving troops on Russian soil is not allowed in the imperial hypocrite eyes of the USA and
    because Navalny is supposedly "the" leader of the Russian opposition and not a fringe foreign sponsored lunatic.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:00 am


    Russia will cut Ukraine off from gas after Nord Stream 2 complete, says Kiev's president, bemoaning Western ‘support’ for pipeline

    https://www.rt.com/russia/525367-ukraine-gas-cut-nordstream2/

    Russia has outmaneuvered Kiev by overcoming Western objections to its Nord Stream 2 pipeline, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has said, warning that Moscow could cut his country off from energy supplies once it is complete.

    The politician made the claims in an interview with Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, published on Monday. He claimed that the pipeline, which will link Siberian gas fields to consumers in Western Europe by means of a conduit under the Baltic Sea, was a “trump card” for Moscow. Now, he claimed, the Kremlin has a “royal flush” because it was supported by leaders in countries like Germany and France.

    The new gas line will allow supplies to bypass Ukraine, potentially depriving it of billions of dollars in transit fees. With construction expected to be completed later this year, Zelensky alleged that Russia would turn off the tap when the gas begins to flow through Nord Stream 2 in two or three years. The project, he said, is designed to prevent Ukraine getting another contract.

    In 2019, Russian state energy firm Gazprom penned a deal to keep the fuel flowing until 2024, paying an estimated $7 billion for its part in the agreement. The network was built on Moscow’s orders during the Soviet era.

    Speaking to RIA Novosti in an interview published on Monday, Dmitry Birichevsky, the director of economic co-operation at the country’s foreign ministry, claimed that fears Russia could turn off the tap on supplies to its neighbor were unfounded. “We have no plan to suspend gas supplies through Ukraine,” he said, insisting that “Russia has never used energy or natural resources as a tool of pressure or blackmail.”

    He added that the deal is still valid for another three years and that after it expires, “there will be negotiations between Gazprom and its partners in Ukraine.”


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    Post  lancelot Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:44 am

    Ukraine made itself redundant by syphoning gas out of the pipe without paying for it.
    They had decades to improve their energy efficiency and reduce gas use. The pipeline isn't getting any younger and they haven't made the investments to keep it in shape either.

    Poland is now talking about nationalizing the Yamal pipeline. Ridiculous.
    They need to make a NordStream 3 so they can cut the Yamal pipeline gas transit revenue teat from Belarus and Poland as well.

    Russia needs to continue cutting out all the middlemen bloodsuckers. Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic states, Belarus, etc.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:45 am

    It looks like NS2 will be the final pipeline project to the EU from Russia. The future is LNG. it will be tasty cake for the EU
    to eat as it will remind them of how good they had it before with cheap Russian piped gas. The EU is in many ways as
    demented as the Kiev regime it helped to install.

    Nemesis follows Hubris.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:15 am

    Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has said, warning that Moscow could cut his country off from energy supplies once it is complete.

    Hahahaha... Russia could cut off Ukraine when NSII is finished... moron... they can cut you off now.

    How about instead of sabotaging their business and giving them reasons to cut you off that you behave like a civilised partner and don't rock the boat and pay your bills on time and there likely wont be any problems.

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:47 am

    Years ago they declared Russia an enemy state and wanted no further business with it... except for cheap gas and the transit fees. unshaven They even buy russian gas from Poland or Hungary (which makes it much more expensive) to avoid contacts with "dirty" russians. But they moan and scream that Russia could stop sending them gas and money. These guys are censored

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    Post  George1 Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:20 pm

    The Ministry of Defense warned of plans to supply weapons to Kiev under the guise of NATO exercises Sea Breeze-2021

    https://en.topwar.ru/183627-minoborony-predupredilo-o-planah-postavki-vooruzhenij-kievu-pod-prikrytiem-uchenij-nato-sea-breeze-2021.html
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:22 pm

    George1 wrote:The Ministry of Defense warned of plans to supply weapons to Kiev under the guise of NATO exercises Sea Breeze-2021

    https://en.topwar.ru/183627-minoborony-predupredilo-o-planah-postavki-vooruzhenij-kievu-pod-prikrytiem-uchenij-nato-sea-breeze-2021.html

    NATzO propaganda routinely claims that Russia is destabilizing the region. But when NATzO arms a war criminal regime to engage in ethnic cleansing
    that is the "spreading of democracy". Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, Latin America, Africa and pretty much the whole globe outside of NATzO has
    been systematically destabilized in the name of "democracy". The word "democracy" means imperial submission.



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    Post  kvs Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:19 am



    The Kiev regime is actually using the Ryan Air incident as a pretext to claim that the Minsk agreement is no longer viable. They
    won't be flying to Belorus, so the agreement is null and void.

    So maybe it was staged somehow with the help of the yanquis. Putin was going to Putin Biden and his handlers on the spot,
    but now they will try to slither out of the situation.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:27 am


    Yeah, I can tell you right now that that excuse won't be flying (no pun intended)

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:34 am

    Kiev was never going to follow the agreement anyways, so really it changes nothing.

    Just at they aren't pretending anymore is all.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:17 am

    kvs wrote:

    The Kiev regime is actually using the Ryan Air incident as a pretext to claim that the Minsk agreement is no longer viable.   They
    won't be flying to Belorus, so the agreement is null and void.

    So maybe it was staged somehow with the help of the yanquis.   Putin was going to Putin Biden and his handlers on the spot,
    but now they will try to slither out of the situation.


    So they can drive there instead. Or take a train, the Kiev-Minsk express

    Either way their ass better be there the next time the meeting is called. We already seen how they wet themselves when Russia started pulling hardware to the front lines. With Nord Stream 2 completed and the useless summit with Bidet out the way, Russia can introduce a few more toys in theatre. And just let the Ukrs try something then.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:53 pm

    Which just solidifies what is going to happen.... without Kiev implementing the Minsk agreements the rebel regions can only hope for autonomy and independence separate from Kiev..... it is only a matter of time.

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