Jeremy Hunt Named New UK Chancellor After Kwasi Kwarteng Given the Boot, 10.14.2022.
Downing Street has confirmed rumours former Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, an opponent of Britain's exit from the European Union (EU) like Liz Truss, would replace Kwasi Karteng.
British Prime Minister Liz Truss sacked Chancellor of the Exchequer Kwasi Kwarteng ahead of an expected reversal of his mini-budget last month.
The chancellor, who had held office for just five weeks, resigned at unelected Truss' request after being called back early from a meeting with the International Monetary Fund in New York.
https://sputniknews.com/20221014/kwasi-kwarteng-reportedly-sacked-as-uk-finance-minister-1101843492.html
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An authentic British has been now scandalously selected as chancellor.
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Frankly, who gives a shit about British politics or Britain. It's a insignificant country that's trying to stay relevant by being a bothersome as possible while it's slowly circling the drain and hopefully soon will be flushed down the toilet where it belongs.
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Robert.V wrote:Frankly, who gives a shit about British politics or Britain. It's a insignificant country that's trying to stay relevant by being a bothersome as possible while it's slowly circling the drain and hopefully soon will be flushed down the toilet where it belongs.
Not a fan of the dynamic duo; Liz Truss and King Charles III, I see?
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flamming_python wrote:Robert.V wrote:Frankly, who gives a shit about British politics or Britain. It's a insignificant country that's trying to stay relevant by being a bothersome as possible while it's slowly circling the drain and hopefully soon will be flushed down the toilet where it belongs.
Not a fan of the dynamic duo; Liz Truss and King Charles III, I see?
Never been a fan of it since my history class. Or when I actually was there. Ugly ass country bar towns like Oxfordshire, etc.
And the other positive thing are the women. Not the most pretty ..but they tend scratch a certain sexual niche.
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Um
Let's change the subject
Anyway here's a good economics video that should provide context to the follow-up political crisis going on in Britain now. For those who do happen to be interested, of course.
Let's change the subject
Anyway here's a good economics video that should provide context to the follow-up political crisis going on in Britain now. For those who do happen to be interested, of course.
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Hahahaha Jeremy Hunt... is that rhyming slang?
I am sure if it isn't it very soon will be... British comedians can be brutal...
Is it ironic that the best political commentators in the US and UK are comedians...
My favourite British political commentator would have to be Frankie Boyle....
I am sure if it isn't it very soon will be... British comedians can be brutal...
Is it ironic that the best political commentators in the US and UK are comedians...
My favourite British political commentator would have to be Frankie Boyle....
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So much for "democracy" in the UK. What a transparent regime change operation to install an elite tool.
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kvs wrote:So much for "democracy" in the UK. What a transparent regime change operation to install an elite tool.
How can you be any more of an elite tool than Liz Truss is already? Or did she rise to power through her charisma?
She's simply an embarrassment, that's the trouble for the establishment I believe
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14:42 Eh, she didn’t have time to defeat Putin, it turns out.
14:44 Truss announced that she is resigning
14:44 The election of the new British Prime Minister and the leader of the Conservatives will be held next week, said Liz Truss
14:45 The Truss premiership was the shortest in the history of Britain - only 45 days
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From now on kindly refer to Dr. Boris Johnson, PhD from Lvov University, and no longer the Court's buffoon as a possible PM comeback.
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Geniuses!!!
BoE Makes Biggest Interest Rate Hike in Over 30 Years, Warns UK Facing 'Prolonged Recession'. 11.03.2022.
The Bank of England's eighth interest rate rise in succession was anticipated to be the largest since 1989, coming against the backdrop of skyrocketing inflation.
The Bank of England (BoE) has announced its biggest interest rate hike in over 30 years in an effort to tame soaring inflation.
The BoE Monetary Policy Committee’s nine members voted to jack up the key rate by 0.75 percent to reach a base rate of three percent. The BoE also warned that inflation was expected to peak at 11 percent in the current quarter, up from 10.1 percent in September.
"Inflation is too high. It is well above our 2% target. High energy, food and other bills are hitting people hard. If high inflation continues, it will hurt everybody. Low and stable inflation helps people plan for the future. Raising interest rates is the best way we have to bring inflation down. We know that many people are facing higher borrowing costs. In particular, many households face higher mortgage rates. And some businesses face higher loan rates. It’s our job to make sure that inflation returns to our 2% target," the bank said in its statement.
According to the Bank of England, the UK entered recession in the third quarter of this year, amid soaring global energy and goods prices.
The Monetary Policy Committee's projections also stated that the UK economy was expected to be in recession for a prolonged period, with Consumer Price Index (CPI) inflation elevated at over 10 percent in the near term. Unemployment was also expected to rise, with the jobless rate reaching almost 6.5 percent by late 2025, up from the current 3.5 percent.
https://sputniknews.com/20221103/boe-makes-biggest-interest-rate-hike-in-over-30-years-warns-uk-facing-prolonged-recession-1103684905.html
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To save the economy, Britain will be returned to the 19th century, by Valeria Verbinina for VZGLYAD. 01.09.2023.
Having survived last week's "Black Thursday" and fearing a disastrous "Black Half Year" for the country, the British authorities decided to suppress the strike movement. Now it has taken on a scale that has not been seen for almost 50 years. And the government of Rishi Sunak will fight it with such methods that make you remember the century before last.
When Rishi Sunak became prime minister of Great Britain , many wondered if he would last longer than his predecessor, Liz Truss, who left him a legacy of serious problems, primarily economic ones .
By now, Sunak has not only "survived" Liz in high office, but is also serious about quelling a wave of strikes that threaten the stability of the United Kingdom. In intensity, these events are comparable to the famous strikes of the 1970s.
The government 's biggest concern is railroad strikes, which could cause a transport collapse. Last week, 80,000 trains did not leave on schedule, and on January 5, only one train out of five followed the schedule, and some lines were left without electric trains at all, which gave local journalists grounds to call this day a "nightmare Thursday."
The unions are threatening to strike until June if necessary. And Mike Whelan, general secretary of the Aslef machinists' union, said the strike "cannot be avoided" until the parties find a reasonable compromise:
“The situation is getting worse and union members are not going to back down because we don't see any progress. We live in a strange world in which the government is willing to do anything to keep private companies in the industry... These companies claim that their hands are tied by the government, while the government - which is not our employer - says that we must negotiate with companies. We are always happy to agree - to sit down at the table and start a discussion, but the companies do not offer us anything, and such an attitude is unacceptable.
According to him, the wages of workers in the industry have not been raised for several years, while the inflation that has been growing lately is eating away all their incomes.
As for the Prime Minister, he said that "the people have the right to strike", but "it must not violate the rights of British citizens ... which, as we have seen, is happening in recent days."
Under the guise of protecting the rights of citizens, Sunak and his cabinet are preparing an initiative whose main goal is to further curtail the rights of trade unions and strikers. But from them, and so little is left, when compared with the previous standards of the European Union.
If details leaked to the British press are to be believed, the law should ensure a minimum level of functioning for critical industries: transport, health and education systems, fire protection, border guards and the nuclear industry. If the trade unions refuse to provide such a level, the strike is declared illegal with all the ensuing consequences for its participants.
According to an unnamed Times source (quoted in a Guardian reprint ): “This law nullifies the rights of strikers if the union fails to provide a minimum level of service. Strikes will become illegal. Eventually anyone can be fired for breach of contract."
Thus, the government imposes conditions on the right to strike that, on the one hand, deprive them of their meaning, and on the other hand, carry an unambiguous threat to the strikers. This return is not even in the years of the "iron lady" Margaret Thatcher, whom many in the country commemorate with an unkind word, but in the 19th century.
Officially, the press service of the Prime Minister's office declined to comment on the upcoming law, limiting itself to a general statement that "the ministers continue to discuss further measures to minimize risks and protect citizens, but have not yet reached any conclusions."
Labor leader Keir Starmer has already said that if his party wins the next election (which is more than likely - the ruling Conservative Party's ratings are at historic lows), they will repeal the law "if it actually proposes restrictions" on workers' rights.
It is worth noting the peculiar linguistic resourcefulness of British journalists, who (as, by the way, their French colleagues when they talk about strikes at home) prefer to use smoother and more vague expressions instead of the word “strike”, but when it comes to the upcoming law, they forget about caution and directly call it "anti-strike".
Dave Penman, general secretary of the FDA, said passing the controversial legislation would not solve the problem of the low wages that started the strikes:
"The prime minister is free to make his choice, but he will not achieve anything in this way."
“The truth is,” he added , “that it’s just a pay raise. And until this problem is solved, until the government tries to solve it, it may try to somehow limit our right to strike, but the strikes will still not stop.”
According to leaked government correspondence, Sunak is serious. Not only is he not going to give in, but he also considered the question of banning certain categories of employees from becoming members of trade unions. This would automatically make them completely dependent on their employers. Sunak's cabinet dreams of exactly this, but he had to abandon such a bold undertaking. “It would be difficult to justify” such a measure, since according to the European Convention on Human Rights, workers have the right to become members of trade unions, so it was decided to take a different path, which would nevertheless make life as difficult as possible for the strikers.
https://vz.ru/world/2023/1/9/1194158.html
Having survived last week's "Black Thursday" and fearing a disastrous "Black Half Year" for the country, the British authorities decided to suppress the strike movement. Now it has taken on a scale that has not been seen for almost 50 years. And the government of Rishi Sunak will fight it with such methods that make you remember the century before last.
When Rishi Sunak became prime minister of Great Britain , many wondered if he would last longer than his predecessor, Liz Truss, who left him a legacy of serious problems, primarily economic ones .
By now, Sunak has not only "survived" Liz in high office, but is also serious about quelling a wave of strikes that threaten the stability of the United Kingdom. In intensity, these events are comparable to the famous strikes of the 1970s.
The government 's biggest concern is railroad strikes, which could cause a transport collapse. Last week, 80,000 trains did not leave on schedule, and on January 5, only one train out of five followed the schedule, and some lines were left without electric trains at all, which gave local journalists grounds to call this day a "nightmare Thursday."
The unions are threatening to strike until June if necessary. And Mike Whelan, general secretary of the Aslef machinists' union, said the strike "cannot be avoided" until the parties find a reasonable compromise:
“The situation is getting worse and union members are not going to back down because we don't see any progress. We live in a strange world in which the government is willing to do anything to keep private companies in the industry... These companies claim that their hands are tied by the government, while the government - which is not our employer - says that we must negotiate with companies. We are always happy to agree - to sit down at the table and start a discussion, but the companies do not offer us anything, and such an attitude is unacceptable.
According to him, the wages of workers in the industry have not been raised for several years, while the inflation that has been growing lately is eating away all their incomes.
As for the Prime Minister, he said that "the people have the right to strike", but "it must not violate the rights of British citizens ... which, as we have seen, is happening in recent days."
Under the guise of protecting the rights of citizens, Sunak and his cabinet are preparing an initiative whose main goal is to further curtail the rights of trade unions and strikers. But from them, and so little is left, when compared with the previous standards of the European Union.
If details leaked to the British press are to be believed, the law should ensure a minimum level of functioning for critical industries: transport, health and education systems, fire protection, border guards and the nuclear industry. If the trade unions refuse to provide such a level, the strike is declared illegal with all the ensuing consequences for its participants.
According to an unnamed Times source (quoted in a Guardian reprint ): “This law nullifies the rights of strikers if the union fails to provide a minimum level of service. Strikes will become illegal. Eventually anyone can be fired for breach of contract."
Thus, the government imposes conditions on the right to strike that, on the one hand, deprive them of their meaning, and on the other hand, carry an unambiguous threat to the strikers. This return is not even in the years of the "iron lady" Margaret Thatcher, whom many in the country commemorate with an unkind word, but in the 19th century.
Officially, the press service of the Prime Minister's office declined to comment on the upcoming law, limiting itself to a general statement that "the ministers continue to discuss further measures to minimize risks and protect citizens, but have not yet reached any conclusions."
Labor leader Keir Starmer has already said that if his party wins the next election (which is more than likely - the ruling Conservative Party's ratings are at historic lows), they will repeal the law "if it actually proposes restrictions" on workers' rights.
It is worth noting the peculiar linguistic resourcefulness of British journalists, who (as, by the way, their French colleagues when they talk about strikes at home) prefer to use smoother and more vague expressions instead of the word “strike”, but when it comes to the upcoming law, they forget about caution and directly call it "anti-strike".
Dave Penman, general secretary of the FDA, said passing the controversial legislation would not solve the problem of the low wages that started the strikes:
"The prime minister is free to make his choice, but he will not achieve anything in this way."
“The truth is,” he added , “that it’s just a pay raise. And until this problem is solved, until the government tries to solve it, it may try to somehow limit our right to strike, but the strikes will still not stop.”
According to leaked government correspondence, Sunak is serious. Not only is he not going to give in, but he also considered the question of banning certain categories of employees from becoming members of trade unions. This would automatically make them completely dependent on their employers. Sunak's cabinet dreams of exactly this, but he had to abandon such a bold undertaking. “It would be difficult to justify” such a measure, since according to the European Convention on Human Rights, workers have the right to become members of trade unions, so it was decided to take a different path, which would nevertheless make life as difficult as possible for the strikers.
https://vz.ru/world/2023/1/9/1194158.html
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Has he already exhausted his options... did he try to suggest that anyone who is striking is helping Putin and that strikes in the UK are Putin Strikes that kill Ukrainian children and puppy dogs and puddy tats?
Essentially his house is on fire and he is dealing with it by trying to rearrange the furniture so the cheap shit burns but the big screen TV can be saved... he was too cheap to pay for insurance you see....
Essentially his house is on fire and he is dealing with it by trying to rearrange the furniture so the cheap shit burns but the big screen TV can be saved... he was too cheap to pay for insurance you see....
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnHNCR8WZA
They put all the migrants in deprived areas , like Liverpool . Instead of dispersing them evenly across the UK . The millionaire living in Kent , would not like a migrant centre next door ? Does not match the manicured gardens ? Of course this raises tensions , soon you get a race riot , any excuse is enough , any little spark ! There was a death of a young Girl , nearby in a Park . Was she a migrant ? Was this a race thing ? Britain is about to explode ! Their fault really .
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They do put them all over the country. Even in some small resort villages, hiring out the local bed & breakfast just to house migrants. Which totally kills the whole economy of the settlement in question as people from the cities no longer desire to escape there for the weekend; but the government reportedly pays good money and the local hotel owner certainly makes a tidy profit.
A large city like Liverpool naturally is no exception
The latest arrivals to the British Isles are the Albanians apparently; some 2-3% of the Albanian population is already over in Britain. Many got in as asylum seekers on those boats, despite the fact there is no war in the Balkans and there hasn't been one for some time now.
But the majority of asylum-seekers who end up in these programs seem to be from Afghanistan and various Middle Eastern nations.
And yeah the British millionaires likely get a pass on having a migrant centre next door. Those sorts tend to have their estates in more remote areas, or next to others of their kind where there isn't any sort of social welfare infrastructure nearby to be seen, or much of anything really. Been to some such places back in the day by happenstance. Lovely and picturesque, very low-density communities if you can call them that; but there won't even be any hotels nearby.
A large city like Liverpool naturally is no exception
The latest arrivals to the British Isles are the Albanians apparently; some 2-3% of the Albanian population is already over in Britain. Many got in as asylum seekers on those boats, despite the fact there is no war in the Balkans and there hasn't been one for some time now.
But the majority of asylum-seekers who end up in these programs seem to be from Afghanistan and various Middle Eastern nations.
And yeah the British millionaires likely get a pass on having a migrant centre next door. Those sorts tend to have their estates in more remote areas, or next to others of their kind where there isn't any sort of social welfare infrastructure nearby to be seen, or much of anything really. Been to some such places back in the day by happenstance. Lovely and picturesque, very low-density communities if you can call them that; but there won't even be any hotels nearby.
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They paid some households in UK , to accept and accommodate Ukrs refugees . I think many took up the offer . The schemes were supposed to last six months . I don't know if they are still going strong ? But refugees from Albania or Afghanistan , were not given same priority at all . No chance to be taken in by family . Race motive or political motive here ? The many Ukrainians , will mostly stay in UK .
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Nonsense, the Afghan refugees and such are housed in hotels not in private homes. That riot in Liverpool was against a hotel where the migrants were being housed; it wasn't a social services building or some such.
The Ukrainians were being housed in people's homes but as you mentioned the scheme ended, I'm not sure what solution was found for these people, I guess none and their fate depends on each individual host family; whether they came to private rent agreements with them afterwards.
The Ukrainians were being housed in people's homes but as you mentioned the scheme ended, I'm not sure what solution was found for these people, I guess none and their fate depends on each individual host family; whether they came to private rent agreements with them afterwards.
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But refugees from Albania or Afghanistan , were not given same priority at all . No chance to be taken in by family . Race motive or political motive here ? The many Ukrainians , will mostly stay in UK .
I suspect you are not that far off base... white Ukrainians would likely be treated better in Britain than Afghans or people from the Sudan etc...
They would treat them like anti Putin Russians... which is really all they are...
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I definately noticed British politics being radicalized towards the left and right with the start of the Palestine crisis, paired with the shambles that the establishment has made of the economy and the utter lack of real alternative that Keir Starmer is posing to Rishi Sunak, of course. In fact both are complete non-entities and globalist puppets.
This is a good look at the views of the emerging hard-left post the sabotage of Corbyn by the neo-Blairites in the face of Starmer, and I must say I'm impressed. It's a good start, even if some of their views are a bit naive. But they need organization and a coherent strategy among the various parties and unions and so on, as the young woman mentions.
This is a good look at the views of the emerging hard-left post the sabotage of Corbyn by the neo-Blairites in the face of Starmer, and I must say I'm impressed. It's a good start, even if some of their views are a bit naive. But they need organization and a coherent strategy among the various parties and unions and so on, as the young woman mentions.
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I don't know. The woke degeneracy infesting the western left is a big obstacle to progress. They will be too busy with identity politics to pursue proper change. Some
of them can repeat classical left talking points, but I doubt they have the mental framework to be proper leftists. Woke degeneracy is clearly an organized brainwashing
campaign such as the one you had in Ukraine which turned that country into a shithole. The owner class in the west is all in on this woke degeneracy so it simply cannot
be considered a legitimate part of the left. It a successful tool to neuter the left even if there are superficial victories.
of them can repeat classical left talking points, but I doubt they have the mental framework to be proper leftists. Woke degeneracy is clearly an organized brainwashing
campaign such as the one you had in Ukraine which turned that country into a shithole. The owner class in the west is all in on this woke degeneracy so it simply cannot
be considered a legitimate part of the left. It a successful tool to neuter the left even if there are superficial victories.
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UK Tories face election wipeout – polls, 06.20.2024.
The Conservative Party is heading for its worst-ever general election result, pollsters suggest.
The UK Conservative Party is on course for a historic defeat in July’s general election, ending their 14-year run in government, according to three major polls released on Wednesday.
A poll by Savanta and Electoral Calculus for the Telegraph forecasts the Tories getting just 53 seats out of 650 in parliament. Not only would this mark an all-time low for the party, but the poll predicted the current Tory leader and Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, could lose his seat in Richmond and Northallerton, an unprecedented blow for a serving leader.
A More in Common survey for the News Agents podcast showed the Tories heading towards 155 seats. Despite being the most optimistic for the Conservatives of the three polls, it would still mean less than half the current 344, and even fewer seats than they had in 1997, when the Conservative party lost leadership to Labour.
Meanwhile, YouGov has predicted the Tories will slip down to 108 seats. All three polls projected the Conservative Party would see a worse outcome than their disastrous 1906 result, which brought a landslide Liberal victory.
The surveys all forecast that the Liberal Democrats will enjoy their best results in years. YouGov predicts the Lib Dems will get 67 seats, more than they have ever had. More in Common put them at 49 seats, and Savanta at 50.
All three surveys suggested Labour Party leader Sir Keir Starmer is on track to become the next prime minister, and all three predicted his party winning more than 400 seats – surpassing the party’s resounding win of 1997.
https://www.rt.com/news/599606-tories-uk-election-wipeout/
The Conservative Party is heading for its worst-ever general election result, pollsters suggest.
The UK Conservative Party is on course for a historic defeat in July’s general election, ending their 14-year run in government, according to three major polls released on Wednesday.
A poll by Savanta and Electoral Calculus for the Telegraph forecasts the Tories getting just 53 seats out of 650 in parliament. Not only would this mark an all-time low for the party, but the poll predicted the current Tory leader and Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, could lose his seat in Richmond and Northallerton, an unprecedented blow for a serving leader.
A More in Common survey for the News Agents podcast showed the Tories heading towards 155 seats. Despite being the most optimistic for the Conservatives of the three polls, it would still mean less than half the current 344, and even fewer seats than they had in 1997, when the Conservative party lost leadership to Labour.
Meanwhile, YouGov has predicted the Tories will slip down to 108 seats. All three polls projected the Conservative Party would see a worse outcome than their disastrous 1906 result, which brought a landslide Liberal victory.
The surveys all forecast that the Liberal Democrats will enjoy their best results in years. YouGov predicts the Lib Dems will get 67 seats, more than they have ever had. More in Common put them at 49 seats, and Savanta at 50.
All three surveys suggested Labour Party leader Sir Keir Starmer is on track to become the next prime minister, and all three predicted his party winning more than 400 seats – surpassing the party’s resounding win of 1997.
https://www.rt.com/news/599606-tories-uk-election-wipeout/
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The Tories betrayed their voters in grotesque fashion. The problem is that the voters proceed to vote for the other main globalist party as if that will
change anything. People need to "throw away" their vote on obscure fringe parties to send the message. But instead their votes are predictable and
they act just like sheep.
change anything. People need to "throw away" their vote on obscure fringe parties to send the message. But instead their votes are predictable and
they act just like sheep.
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Nigel Farage's Reform UK is booming.
'Dangerous appeasement': Sunak slams reformist leader for saying West provoked Russia, 06.22.2024.
The British Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, lashed out at the leader of the Reform UK party, Nigel Farage, for pointing to the West as responsible for the conflict in Ukraine. For the head of the British government, "this kind of appeasement is dangerous for the security of the United Kingdom" and that of its allies.
Specifically, Nigel Farage argued that it was "the eastward expansion of NATO and the EU" that raised valid Russian concerns about its national security. While Farage admitted that launching a military operation in Ukraine was ultimately a Russian decision, he insisted that the West provoked the ongoing conflict.
"The sooner we realize this, the closer we will be to ending the war and achieving peace," the British reformist politician predicted.
For those words made in an interview with the BBC, Farage also received condemnation from other British politicians, including the Interior Minister, James Cleverly, and the leader of the Labour Party, Keir Starmer.
Russia has been carrying out a special military operation since February 24, 2022, whose objectives are, as announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin, to protect the population from "a genocide by the Kiev regime" and to tackle the national security risks posed by NATO's advance to the east.
Yandex Translate from Spanish.
https://latamnews.lat/20240622/apaciguamiento-peligroso-sunak-critica-a-lider-reformista-por-decir-que-occidente-provoco-a-rusia-1155652375.html
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