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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:42 am

    Sadly commercial interests have corrupted health and nutrition, so I think research on healthcare and food should be government funded in the interests of the people.

    The problem with most current research is that it is funded mostly by the marketing budgets of food companies instead of the development budgets to find better and healthier foods for people.

    Healthy happy people should be the goal of all governments.... even just to reduce money wasted on healthcare for preventable issues like obesity and diabetes.

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    Post  andalusia Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:06 am

    This is an article saying that Russia would be hurt by SWIFT early on and the German Bank most exposed to Russia:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-the-western-bank-most-exposed-to-russia-and-potential-sanctions-11643120631?siteid=yhoof2
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:04 pm

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13554663

    Pension find will be indexed by 8.6%

    Not here in Canada of course.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:37 pm

    This is an article saying that Russia would be hurt by SWIFT early on and the German Bank most exposed to Russia:

    In the short term of course it would hurt Russia... imagine some government order or local judge said you were not allowed to use the local currency in any transaction... of course that would dramatically effect your life, and if you are a homeless person that wont effect the local area very much at all.

    The problem is that Russia isn't a tiny weak homeless person... Russia has products that the west needs like oil and gas and Titanium and quite a few other things as well... now denying them access to currencies or more precisely money transfers in international banks would be a problem to start with, but they already have a local currency and financial money transfer system of their own, so if you want oil or gas or any sort of mineral or raw material or food or processed goods you are going to have to buy up some of their currency or join their money transfer system to pay for it.

    Everyone who buys from Russia will either need to find some where else to buy from... for Europe and gas supplies it is pretty clear there is no other option in the near future, and for materials like titanium and engine parts and things the other alternative would be to use third parties which means buying what you buy now for a rather higher price because now there is a middle man.

    The other alternative would be to join their money transfer system which means instead of SWIFT in Europe making money on international money transactions with Russia... Russia will be earning the money instead.

    I think the sanctions are a great idea because it will force the world to diversify away from US and Euro controlled banking systems infrastructure, which will also allow countries like Iran and China and North Korea and Cuba etc etc etc to trade internationally without fear of being restricted or limited or controlled.

    This is a key sanction that would backfire spectacularly, so I do hope someone does follow through and impose it because it will be another leg kicked out from the table holding up white colonialist rule of the world. With their track record it is pretty clear they should not control anything... they are terrible managers that are selfish and narcissistic and arrogant.

    The west does not know how to deal with Putin because he is honest and genuinely cares about Russia and the Russian people.

    He wont sell them out... and that is something the west does not understand because they would all sell out their people and their countries to the very rich and they do that every day of the week.

    No wonder they demonise him... because if they didn't the people of the west might be wondering why they don't have such leaders too.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:14 pm

    So, according to Rosstat, the average monthly income for each citizen of Russia in 2020 amounted to 35,740 rubles. By the end of 2021, this amount is likely to be at the level of 37,000 -38,000 rubles.
    This roughly corresponds to the level of 430-440 euros per person in Russia monthly.
    If we apply an approximate conversion factor for purchasing power k = 2.6, we will get that the income of the Russian population approximately corresponds to the level of 1100 euros per month for each citizen on average.

    As for me specifically, over the past year my income amounted to about 1400 euros per month (after taxes). Using the same conversion factor of purchasing power, it turns out that my income corresponds to a salary of about 3600 euros per month in a European country (Add to this amount is taxed in your specific country).

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:31 pm

    The average salary in Russian organizations divided into 10% groups. The last column shows the ratio of the salary level of the first group (the lowest salary) to the last group (the highest salary):

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:22 pm



    Rosstselmash (agricultural vehicle and equipment maker) is reviving the abandoned Taganrog Automobile Plant (TagAZ) one of the biggest
    failures of the post Soviet period which was killed by the 2008 financial crisis.

    This is a good indicator that the Russian economy is robust. The demand for Russian made combines and tractors is growing not just
    in Russia but around the world. I can see the Empire of Evil (aka Exceptionalistan) targeting these exports.



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    Post  Kiko Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:51 pm

    British media warn: Russia will make the whole world starve, by Valery Mikhailov for RiANovosti. 29.01.2022.

    In the West, on the eve of the spring sowing season, they nevertheless noticed the “elephant”, which until then had been stubbornly ignored: we are talking about future problems with the harvest, which will be caused by a shortage or high cost of fertilizers. Interestingly, almost simultaneously this trouble was noticed by such monsters as The Wall Street Journal and The Times . At the same time, the British went further than the Americans, who limited themselves to only indicating the seriousness of the problem. The Times, on the other hand, predicted famine around the world, and at the same time appointed the culprit - of course, Russia . They say that fertilizer prices are rising due to rising gas prices, which, in turn, was provoked by Russia.

    This statement is, of course, absurd, no matter how you approach it. In particular, in 2021, Russia increased gas production by ten percent compared to the previous year. Export deliveries in physical terms also increased, albeit slightly, by about two percent. They could rise even more, but it is the European Union , with which Russia is best connected by gas pipelines, that has done everything in recent years to prevent this from happening.

    After all, it was the EU back in 2009 that adopted the so-called third energy package directed against gas producing companies and, first of all, against Gazprom . He assumed the redistribution of profits of the Russian corporation in favor of European gas distribution companies and traders. By various methods: from the initial separation of gas production and transportation to the later transition from a long-term contractual gas supply scheme at an agreed (formula) price to a spot one with exchange prices.

    At first, the new scheme worked as it was supposed to by its initiators - gas prices in Europe fell slightly, as did Gazprom's profits. And the year before last, it even got to the point that the concern was forced to supply gas at a loss to itself.

    At the same time, the Polish company PGNiG managed to win arbitration from Gazprom, having achieved a revision of the formula for the price of deliveries under the contract: a significant component of exchange prices for gas was added to the price formula previously linked to oil and oil products. This also led to the return by the corporation of $1.5 billion overpaid by the Poles, and to a change in the price formula in most of Gazprom's other long-term contracts.

    But then 2021 came and the attraction of unprecedented generosity ended.

    As part of the recovery of the global economy after the severe pandemic restrictions of 2020, in addition, against the backdrop of the green agenda imposed by the West, due to which investments in the exploration and development of hydrocarbon deposits were sharply reduced, there was a shortage of gas in the first half of the year, which spurred an increase in prices on exchanges. All of Gazprom's counterparties, who rewrote the formula in long-term contracts, began to receive contractual gas at ever higher prices as prices on the stock exchange rose. By the way, not everyone did it. Turkey , for example, left the old formula and now receives gas at one of the lowest prices in Europe. But Poland has already overpaid four billion dollars thanks to its Pyrrhic victory and continues to do so.

    Against all this background, Europe itself is delaying the certification of the operator of the brand new Nord Stream 2 for almost a year . And this despite the fact that the "Operator of the gas transmission system of Ukraine", which was separated from Naftogaz of Ukraine in December 2019 and operates the old Ukrainian pipe, was certified by the Europeans in a couple of days.

    In a word, the situation with expensive gas was created exclusively by the hands of the West and, above all, the Europeans. And therefore something else is surprising: that the problems of shortage and high cost of fertilizers in America and Europe have been noticed only today. We warned about this back in October . It was then that it became known about the massive reduction in the production of fertilizers by European manufacturers. First, as part of their refusal to buy additional gas at spot prices in excess of those received under long-term contracts. But with a lag of a couple of months, for the reasons described above, the price of contract gas also rose significantly. In total, up to 40 percent of production capacities were stopped in Europe in autumn.

    In most countries of the world, stocks of fertilizers have been significantly reduced. A number of states restrict or prohibit their export, in particular, China - the export of phosphate fertilizers. From December 1, 2021, Russia introduced quotas for the export of fertilizers for six months. In this situation, the North Korean authorities , having largely lost access to Chinese fertilizers, obliged their peasants to collect human excrement in this capacity - and there is little to laugh about: the terrible famine of the 1990s is still remembered in the country. What is the West doing? He imposes sanctions against Belarusian fertilizers, thus shooting himself in the foot, but blaming Russia.

    As a result, compared to 2020, at the end of 2021, fertilizer prices on the world market rose by 2-3 or more times, depending on the type. And the European price tag on them is at the forefront. Against this background, Russia looks like an island of stability. According to the Ministry of Agriculture , prices for fertilizers are now even falling here. And although, of course, they remain above the prices of 2020, they have returned to about the level of the summer of 2021. The gap with world prices has formed quite significant, and the ministry does not expect this trend to change.

    Regarding the situation on the world market, we can confidently say that due to the shortage and high cost of fertilizers, their use will decrease this year. Which will inevitably lead to a drop in yields and an increase in prices for agricultural products, both due to an increase in its cost (due to rising prices for fertilizers, fuel, plant protection products, and so on), and due to the insufficiency of the crop itself. That is, the situation on the food market is being sucked into a kind of funnel of events, and on a global scale it is hardly possible to change anything much. Some countries will face a rise in food prices to a greater or lesser extent, others will face real hunger. And not because of natural disasters, but because of the actions taken by the collective West - from the frenzied work of printing presses in the US and Europe to unhealthy decisions.

    https://ria.ru/20220129/golod-1770070135.html

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:33 pm

    Gazprom does not set the European spot market price. Gazprom offers contracts with gas prices tied to the oil price, which at current
    oil prices is around $250 per thousand cubic meters. NATzO blood libel maggots should blame the spot market speculators and their own
    policy of refusing Gazprom contracts for the $1200 rates.



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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:38 am

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    Hahahaha... Russian companies are weak and inefficient because they waste money on their employees like holiday resorts and funding their childrens healthcare needs and education.... that is not a weakness... it is a strength.

    Obviously investors and speculators wont like a company that squanders their potential returns on its workers, but I am sure its workers appreciate that they are looked after by the company they generate income for.

    The west is broken.

    So, according to Rosstat , the average monthly income for each citizen of Russia in 2020 amounted to 35,740 rubles. By the end of 2021, this amount is likely to be at the level of 37,000 -38,000 rubles.
    This roughly corresponds to the level of 430-440 euros per person in Russia monthly.
    If we apply an approximate conversion factor for purchasing power k = 2.6, we will get that the income of the Russian population approximately corresponds to the level of 1100 euros per month for each citizen on average.

    As for me specifically, over the past year my income amounted to about 1400 euros per month (after taxes). Using the same conversion factor of purchasing power, it turns out that my income corresponds to a salary of about 3600 euros per month in a European country (Add to this amount is taxed in your specific country).

    It is funny that westerners want to know how much money you make and reference that with cost of living indexes and such crap... what they claim to be trying to work out is.... are you happy? Do you have job satisfaction? Does your employer appreciate what you do or are you just a drone to them earning them their salary...

    They say that fertilizer prices are rising due to rising gas prices, which, in turn, was provoked by Russia.

    Well western media outlets are fertiliser experts...

    Might come as a shock though be some time ago farmers didn't specialise on one crop every single year... this meant they didn't have to replace specific chemicals in the soil every year and it also meant insects and threats to their crop could do serious damage because a concentration of one crop type in one area meant anything that ate that crop could go on reproduction rampages and massively increase their numbers rapidly because of the abundance of food for them in one place.

    In the past you rotated the crops, you grew a variety of crops so pests didn't get out of hand and so natural anti pest measures could deal with the problems, and it was better for the soil, because you weren't taking the same chemicals out of it all the time you didn't need insecticides and you didn't need fertiliser on that sort of industrial scale.

    By the way, not everyone did it. Turkey , for example, left the old formula and now receives gas at one of the lowest prices in Europe. But Poland has already overpaid four billion dollars thanks to its Pyrrhic victory and continues to do so.

    Hilarious, so they got 1.5 billion dollars paid back and now have paid 4 billion more than they would have under the old system... that is simply delicious.... and good for Turkey... not rocking the boat and paying a fair amount for gas and now benefiting from that.... with their economic problems they could have complained and demanded special treatment, but they didn't. Now they benefit... good.

    Against all this background, Europe itself is delaying the certification of the operator of the brand new Nord Stream 2 for almost a year . And this despite the fact that the "Operator of the gas transmission system of Ukraine", which was separated from Naftogaz of Ukraine in December 2019 and operates the old Ukrainian pipe, was certified by the Europeans in a couple of days.

    Hopefully they will delay it another year... Gazproms profits will increase, and who cares how that effects the EU, but their freedom gas will become more expensive and therefore valuable I guess.

    Gazprom does not set the European spot market price.

    Another interesting issue is that spot price gas markets are essentially auctions, and Gazprom is not actually obliged to sell at auctions, so if the price drops too far they can just choose not to sell.

    In the past they sold because they are good neighbours and seem to have sold at a loss, but building another pipeline to China from the same gas fields means they can just redirect gas to China.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:23 am

    Current methods of calculating wages is a joke.

    What needs to be looking at is how much is the average savings per country.

    That gives an indication how well the people themselves are doing.

    Reason why I say this is because on paper, out west, we are rich. In reality, we live paycheck to paycheck. So we lack a savings. My understanding is in Russia and other countries, on average, people have a savings.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:09 pm

    For sure, $2000 per month in Russia goes way further than in Canada. The big one is housing costs which suck up western "wealth".
    The other one is food, which is not cheap in Canada. Big ticket items are not that different.

    Taxation is also a big difference. In Russia there is a 13% flat income tax but in Canada you are going to be be paying over 24% if
    you make $4000 per month. If you make $8000, you will pay out 37%.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:49 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Current methods of calculating wages is a joke.

    What needs to be looking at is how much is the average savings per country.

    That gives an indication how well the people themselves are doing.

    Reason why I say this is because on paper, out west, we are rich. In reality, we live paycheck to paycheck.  So we lack a savings. My understanding is in Russia and other countries, on average, people have a savings.
    Let's just say that at the end of the year I formed a reserve that allows me to live for 3 months without experiencing any problems. In addition to this, I have a three-month payment on my mortgage, so eventually I have up to six months to sort out the problems if they arise. if my income this year is approximately equivalent, I will be able to save about 25-30% monthly. so every time I meet another jerk who shouts how good it is to live in the West, I laugh. It is unlikely that I could have at least a close level of income there.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:22 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Taxation is also a big difference.   In Russia there is a 13% flat income tax

    In fact, even better. Part of my income is taxed at 13%. But there is another part: I also have an income as a self-employed person in my free time from my main job. And from this income I pay only 6%. And almost all of last year it was generally only 4%, since the government provides a bonus of 10,000 rubles, which is spent on compensation of 2% tax for everyone who registers as self-employed (this is a state program). By the way, as of September 2021, there were already more than 3 million people like me.

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    Post  TMA1 Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:29 am

    Scorpius wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    Taxation is also a big difference.   In Russia there is a 13% flat income tax

    In fact, even better. Part of my income is taxed at 13%. But there is another part: I also have an income as a self-employed person in my free time from my main job. And from this income I pay only 6%. And almost all of last year it was generally only 4%, since the government provides a bonus of 10,000 rubles, which is spent on compensation of 2% tax for everyone who registers as self-employed (this is a state program). By the way, as of September 2021, there were already more than 3 million people like me.


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    Post  Kiko Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:29 pm

    Gazprom to mine lithium in Russia, 03.02.2022.

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade and Gazprom have signed an agreement on cooperation in a lithium mining project at the Kovykta deposit, the ministry's press service reports.

    The parties agreed to cooperate in carrying out research and development work to create domestic technologies, equipment and materials necessary for the implementation of the project. In addition, it is planned to prepare proposals for state support measures for scientific and industrial enterprises.

    "In Russia, lithium mining, despite a solid resource base, is not yet carried out. And this only adds to the significance of the project that Gazprom and the Irkutsk Oil Company intend to implement. This will allow us to form a full-cycle lithium industry with good export potential" - said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.

    According to the head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller, the demand for lithium will continue to grow rapidly in the coming years. Russia imports the entire volume of lithium consumed in the country. Therefore, it is especially important to develop domestic technological competencies in this area.

    Lithium, its compounds and alloys are critical for the technological development of a number of industries - the automotive industry, aircraft manufacturing, metallurgy, mechanical engineering, microelectronics, chemistry, and many others.

    The Kovykta field is the largest gas field in Eastern Siberia and is being developed by Gazprom. Recoverable gas reserves - 1.8 trillion cubic meters. The field is a resource base for the Power of Siberia gas pipeline.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:14 pm

    Could Argentina join Russia's SWIFT alternative? Time will tell.

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    Post  par far Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:22 am

    Oil prices have hit $90 per barrel of oil, what effects will this have on Russia?
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:00 am

    par far wrote:Oil prices have hit $90 per barrel of oil, what effects will this have on Russia?

    You can guess, as they have a budget tailored for an average $44 Laughing
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    Post  LMFS Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:39 am

    par far wrote:Oil prices have hit $90 per barrel of oil, what effects will this have on Russia?

    Think windfall profits in a major scale. So, while the rich West runs on an absurd amount of deficit, poor shithole Russia has trillions in surplus. It seems the ruskies will indeed have the rubles to pay for all those military toys they supposedly cannot afford and still have a lot of money to develop the infrastructure and industrial projects, while the West focuses on destroying their industry and convincing their population about the charm of not owning anything, freezing their assess and eating bugs. Guess who's winning Cold War 2 Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:47 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    par far wrote:Oil prices have hit $90 per barrel of oil, what effects will this have on Russia?

    You can guess, as they have a budget tailored for an average $44 Laughing

    Big trouble for the government. It will run out of places to store all the money. Laughing

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    Post  lancelot Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:00 pm

    If this was a couple years back I would say the government would put a lot of the extra capital in a sovereign wealth fund. But given recent changes in Russia I doubt this will happen. The State will just use this capital to accelerate the transition to self-sufficiency. The West has shown itself to be unreliable on the extreme and Russia needs to be prepared. I still think the sovereign wealth fund is a good idea though. Using all the extra capital on the spot risks overheating the economy and eventually hyperinflation.

    The sovereign wealth fund showed its usefulness since it provided a needed cushion after the last oil price drop.

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