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    Post  kvs on Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:44 pm

    We are in overall agreement, but I would not attribute the emergence of any national ideology to Putin. He let it emerge itself
    through consensus. The new ideology is a milder version of the Japanese and South Korean managed capitalism variant but
    with no concentration of power in the hands of the "chaebols". So command economy elements are retained where they
    work at the large scale, and free market (in as much as markets can be free) business activity is possible on all other
    scales. The oligarchy does not rule in Russia, it has been made subservient to the government. That is a good thing since
    we see what free range oligarchy does for Ukraine.

    Putin has been as close to a perfect leader for Russia as possible. Instead of ramming some new order down the throats
    of Russians like all the other social engineering criminals, he let Russians figure out what they wanted. There has been
    a gradual realization that not every aspect of the USSR was bad. So instead of taking the idiot route of totally undoing
    the USSR legacy like all the limitrophes, Russia has found a new equilibrium that rectifies the main problems with the Soviet
    economy and political system. So no one party rule and not absolute GosPlan. But some laissez-faire BS koolaid is not
    drunk either and the need for a guiding hand (as opposed to a phony invisible one) is recognized. At least in Russia
    this guiding hand is from the elected government instead of private star chambers like in the west.

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    Post  Backman on Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:47 pm

    thegopnik wrote:Talking bollocks thread #3 - Page 25 Funny_10

    Jesus Christ I wonder how many fucking users are actually live parrots over there? I am very familiar with most of the users over there that use to have key aero accounts but the same exact shit is being discussed there as it previously was before on Su-57 threads at key aero(makes sense why I dont see other familiar users over there). Than of course there is intellectual arguments regarding Nigeria and I would feel sorry if there are any Nigerians over there with User accounts and another reason why some should not have admin or moderator privileges' that if there was a higher authority above those account privileges' they would be fired already. Just feel like updating some entertaining drivel on other forum su-57 threads in the bollocks thread.

    what forum is this ?
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    Post  Backman on Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:59 pm

    I read through some of the arguments about Putin, USSR and Russia in the previous page.

    As an imperial unit, I agree that the USSR shouldn't have been dismantled. But Yeltsin did it. And Putin almost got it back together in the EEU until Ukraine in 2014. And this isn't over yet either.

    But as for the economics of it, there was going to be a currency crisis regardless. The USSR started running a trade deficit in 1966. Just like the US today (started running deficits in the 70's), there is just no way to reform it. It is being carried by its own momentum until it breaks. And it will.

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    Post  kvs on Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:39 pm

    The "loss" of the limitrophes has been a major boon for Russia. Under the USSR the Baltics and Caucuses were nothing but leeches.
    Now they have to fend for themselves. And it is clear now that Ukraine was a boat anchor around Russia's neck. The BS from
    Trotsky and Brzeshinski that Russia is nothing without Ukraine is patent nonsense. This is on all levels including agriculture.
    Russia now has record wheat harvests on a regular basis but "breadbasket" Ukraine has to import food it should be producing
    itself.

    I doubt that trade deficits matter for command economies. They do not operate on actual money but on edicts. That is
    not an exaggeration. Deficits in command economies are allocation problems resulting from various pathologies such as
    lack of proper work incentives and outright theft. For example allowing whole trainloads of produce to rot in marshaling
    yards. In the west people would face harsh consequences for such negligence. In the USSR it became a national disease.
    As long as the USSR could extract something it could sell abroad, it could maintain imports.

    The notion of Reagan "bankrupting" the USSR with his military spending race is total nonsense. And the claim that over
    30% of the USSRs economy was military production is a brazen lie. I have enough relatives in different parts of Russia to
    know that the fraction of the population working in military related jobs was much less than 10%. Nowhere near 25-30%.
    I bet this lie is a variation of counting any dual use civilian production as pure military. If we are going to engage in such
    sophistry, then we have to pull it on western countries too.

    Western "analysts" can't have it both ways. Either the Soviet ruble was wooden, or the USSR depended on capitalist
    style finances to operate. You will note that the Soviet ruble was never printed like in Pancho Villa's Mexico or Weimar Germany.
    There was never any point to doing this.

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    Post  thegopnik on Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:06 pm

    Backman wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:Talking bollocks thread #3 - Page 25 Funny_10

    Jesus Christ I wonder how many fucking users are actually live parrots over there? I am very familiar with most of the users over there that use to have key aero accounts but the same exact shit is being discussed there as it previously was before on Su-57 threads at key aero(makes sense why I dont see other familiar users over there). Than of course there is intellectual arguments regarding Nigeria and I would feel sorry if there are any Nigerians over there with User accounts and another reason why some should not have admin or moderator privileges' that if there was a higher authority above those account privileges' they would be fired already. Just feel like updating some entertaining drivel on other forum su-57 threads in the bollocks thread.

    what forum is this ?

    secretprojects.uk forum, I enjoy watching other Su-57 threads at other forums as well but sometimes this shit kills my mood.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:53 pm

    Losers are going to "lose". Like haters are going to hate.

    All the twits pontificating on Russian fails are all uneducated trash. Even if they are over the age of 40, they think
    like 8 year olds.

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    Post  Aristide on Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:22 pm

    nomadski wrote:Europe is a racial idea. Africa and Asia  and other continents are geographic ideas. Therefore Europe is self limiting. Not all people are created equal. The Europeans think, they own the day sky, because they have blue eyes. And they think, they own the Sun, because they have yellow hair.

    But they forget, that people with Brown skin, own the Earth. And people with black eyes, own the night sky. And all the stars in the heavens. You can only see the Stars at night.

    Now the arrogant French racists, curtail the Internet freedom of speech, to spread religious hatred. But they do not curtail the  journalistic freedom of speech, to spread secular hatred. These cultures are in free fall. I have always thought of Europe, as a small part of Asia. On the Atlantic Coast.

    What utter nonsense.

    We own the day and the night. And stars can be seen at evry time. The sun itself is a star.

    Maybe its your backwarded religion that holds you back. Try science.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:10 pm

    We own the day and the night. And stars can be seen at evry time. The sun itself is a star.
    like u own Ancient Egyptian civilization that u claimed was created by Europeans? Let me remind u that the Inquisition burned J. Bruno who was brave enough to postulate that the stars r suns with their own planets around them. U can see only 1 star from the Earth in daytime, not stars, as they r seen only after sunset.
    Ur post illustrates how u mince words & ideas to suit ur convictions & worldview.
    Maybe its your backwarded religion that holds you back. Try science.
    The Christianity is no less backward (as in the ex. above), esp. compared to Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism & Taoism.
    Before referring to science, not ur racist pseudoscience, learn some relevant topics 1st.
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    Post  Aristide on Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:09 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    We own the day and the night. And stars can be seen at evry time. The sun itself is a star.
    like u own Ancient Egyptian civilization that u claimed was created by Europeans? Let me remind u that the Inquisition burned J. Bruno who was brave enough to postulate that the stars r suns with their own planets around them. U can see only 1 star from the Earth in daytime, not stars, as they r seen only after sunset.
    Ur post illustrates how u mince words & ideas to suit ur convictions & worldview.
    Maybe its your backwarded religion that holds you back. Try science.
    The Christianity is no less backward (as in the ex. above), esp. compared to Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism & Taoism.
    Before referring to science, not ur racist pseudoscience, learn some relevant topics 1st.

    Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:33 pm

    Aristide wrote:...Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes

    Hey Ali-Baba I have green eyes, does that mean I am Scottish?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:18 am

    Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes.
    how do u know he had them? even if he did, not all of them had blue eyes. Some Peruvian Incas were light skinned, as well as albino Africans, does it make them European?
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    Post  franco on Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:16 am

    Actually Pharaoh's were Greeks for a long period up to Cleopatra. Just saw that on National Geographic Smile

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    Post  kvs on Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:13 am

    franco wrote:Actually Pharaoh's were Greeks for a long period up to Cleopatra. Just saw that on National Geographic Smile  

    This really should be common knowledge. Ancient Egypt is hardly a non-interest for millions. The Greek Ptolemy dynasty was
    in charge. Before that they were not black either. Egypt was unified with Nubia which was black. But the pharaohs of Moses
    were not PC fiction non-whites. I am using the loose definition of white. Clearly these Egyptians were not northern Europeans.

    We live in an era of hate-based historical revisionism with assorted lunatics calling for the banning of "white" mathematics
    and science from academic institutions. This includes fully revising all of history to make everything non-white.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:50 am

    The Thirtieth Dynasty was established in 380 BC and lasted until 343 BC. Nectanebo II was the last native king to rule Egypt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Egypt#Persian_domination

    [i]Ramesses II.. reigned 1279–1213 BC, ..or 930 years before that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II

    The native Ancient Egyptians came from mixed populations of pre-historic N. African & Near Eastern peoples, not the Indo-Europeans that appeared much later & well to the North of the present Lebanon & Syria.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:25 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes.
    how do u know he had them? even if he did, not all of them had blue eyes. Some Peruvian Incas were light skinned, as well as albino Africans, does it make them European?

    Its called genetic testing.

    Btw we know full well what Egyptians looked like. Exactly what we look like today here in Europe.

    DNA tests show that over 95% of old kingdom bones in Egypt were simply southerm european mediterranean type.
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:...Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes

    Hey Ali-Baba I have green eyes, does that mean I am Scottish?


    You are a Serb buddy. You know your position in the hierarchy of Europe. Wink
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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:28 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:The Thirtieth Dynasty was established in 380 BC and lasted until 343 BC. Nectanebo II was the last native king to rule Egypt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Egypt#Persian_domination

    [i]Ramesses II.. reigned 1279–1213 BC, ..or 930 years before that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II

    The native Ancient Egyptians came from mixed populations of pre-historic N. African & Near Eastern peoples, not the Indo-Europeans that appeared much later & well to the North of the present Lebanon & Syria.

    That is bullshit of course. The Greeks, Sardes ect were active in Egypt since the middle kingdom.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:23 am

    But you can read the bible and it shows Jesus was American and spoke English...

    Blue eyes is not a European trait... and mine are green too, but there are plenty of brown eyed Europeans... did they get that from Africa or Asia?

    DNA tests show that over 95% of old kingdom bones in Egypt were simply southerm european mediterranean type.

    But we all came from Africa originally so european is meaningless... there is no pure blood anything anywhere.... we are all mongrels... DNA evidence proves this too.

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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:But you can read the bible and it shows Jesus was American and spoke English...

    Blue eyes is not a European trait... and mine are green too, but there are plenty of brown eyed Europeans... did they get that from Africa or Asia?

    DNA tests show that over 95% of old kingdom bones in Egypt were simply southerm european mediterranean type.

    But we all came from Africa originally so european is meaningless... there is no pure blood anything anywhere.... we are all mongrels... DNA evidence proves this too.

    We dont know if we came out of africa. New finds bring this into question. A hominid tooth was found in the rhine valley Geemany and predates anything from africa.

    Of course we are all mongrels. Europeans just happen to have the best mix.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:...Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes

    Hey Ali-Baba I have green eyes, does that mean I am Scottish?


    You are a Serb buddy. You know your position in the hierarchy of Europe.

    Way above you

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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:27 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:...Old egyptians were european. Look at Ramses, he had blue eyes

    Hey Ali-Baba I have green eyes, does that mean I am Scottish?


    You are a Serb buddy. You know your position in the hierarchy of Europe.

    Way above you


    Its the absolute bottom.

    You guys are poor, so,you cant even buy style. Serbia comes even behind Romania and that says something.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:33 pm

    Aristide doesn't look like a German. It is true.
    So he is not Frank neither Gaul.
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    Post  PhSt on Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:32 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:
    So he is not Frank neither Gaul.

    Maybe this kid is, because he have blue eyes Laughing

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    Post  Aristide on Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:44 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Aristide doesn't look like a German. It is true.
    So he is not Frank neither Gaul.

    No southern french looks germanic, since its romanic, like spain, italy and so on. Which makes us the best looking french. Mediterranean people usually are the best looking europeans, since we have the best of evrything.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:38 pm

    Aristide wrote:You guys are poor, so,you cant even buy style. Serbia comes even behind Romania and that says something.

    Style is not something you buy, French would be the the first to tell you that

    You claim you ain't Arab and you just said most Arab thing ever lol1

    As for Romania why are they coming here to do shitty ass jobs of they are so awesome?



    Aristide wrote:
    Hannibal Barca wrote:Aristide doesn't look like a German. It is true.
    So he is not Frank neither Gaul.

    No southern french looks germanic,......

    They sure as shit don't look Arabic either



    Aristide wrote:...since its romanic, like spain, italy and so on. ...

    And definitely not Arabic



    Aristide wrote:Which makes us the best looking french....

    There is no "us"

    You are Arab



    Aristide wrote:...Mediterranean people ...

    Arabs are Mediterranean



    Aristide wrote:...usually are the best looking europeans, since we have the best of evrything.

    So how do you explain yourself?


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