They could use drones!
They have been using MPA aircraft, and fishing boats, and satellites... this will be in addition to... rather than instead of...
Something that the US established 20 years ago.
It is something navies have been doing for centuries... but they haven't had hypersonic anti ship missiles to finish the kill chain...
The "new" net centric warfare is not going to be different from that of the U.S.
It probably is... to start with Russia has a ground based IADS network and communication system experience with rather more capable AD equipment... there were lots of claims about AEGIS, but it does not seem to live up to the hype.
I remember claims in the 1980s that the radars for AEGIS are so sophisticated they can identify targets by counting the number of engines and even the engine turbine blades in flight... a claim shattered when a US cruiser mistook a climbing Airbus as being a descending F-14 and shot it down.
It didn't shoot it down immediately of course, there was a malfunction with the SAM and a delay of 90 seconds before it came back on line and was launched...
However, if a large volume of weapons are used concurrently in a conflict, this mayadd considerably to the demand for network bandwidth.
Bandwidth does not need to be significant.... they wont be sharing Netflix videos or anything... just locations and identities on a shared map... using a wide range of sensors to add targets or information to the map and weapons to remove targets from the map.
Are you sure Russia has that appetite? Especially against a near peer adversary like China or U.S?
If they did they would be acting like the US does...
Russia is new to network centric warfare (NCW).
Rubbish. The Soviets had a PVO network operating for decades... it might be new to the Russian Navy, but it is new for anyone who joins the US Navy too.
Not the US. Ergo, over the last 3 decades the U.S has developed state of the art Observe Orient Decide Act (OODA) loop.
No one would accuse them of not being Loopy.
U.S currently has the best amalgam of information, sensors, and communications that constitutes the “information backplane”of network-centric operations. Therefore, we can change the mode,direction, and objectives of our actions, just as fast as we can bring speed and precision to targeting.
Russia can destroy any of your ships and your satellites too... unless your carriers can dodge Kinzhals then spending minutes watching the missiles approaching and not being able to stop them is going to be rather uncomfortable...
More importantly, the real payoff in network-centric operations is foreshortening combat by causing the enemy to yield long before his means to resist have been exhausted, or long before additional friendly forces might be expected to arrive in the crisis area. This efficiency revolves around the ability of network-centric forces to undertake precise effects-based operations, that is, outcome-oriented activity focused on enemy behavior. The objective of these operations is psychological rather than physical.Hence, they are focused on the enemy’s decision-making process and ability to take action in some coherent manner—especially “getting inside his OODA loop” and inducing or exploiting chaos. The knowledge, precision, speed, andagility brought by network-centric operations constitute the price of admission into this realm.
Was this system in place when they shot down an Iranian Airbus while operating illegally in Iranian waters? Or when a US submarine surfaced off Hawaii and killed a dozen or so Japanese fishermen when it sank their boat. Or during the various collisions of US ships in open water with cargo ships? How about their planes... when they shot down some Syrian Su-22s when one of them dropped a fuel tank and the American pilots panicked and thought they were under attack, or perhaps the people in the gondola in Italy who died when a Navy plane clipped their cable... real heroes there... I believe they destroyed a video tape of the incident after the fact to avoid responsibility...
Regular Russian hacking of computer servers across US and similarly US attempts to hack servers in Russia is a case in point.
I am sure if they could prove it they would... but why would the Russian government bother to hack some US computers... are you really so arrogant to think they think they might learn something interesting?
I am aware of the US paranoid notion that allowing the rest of the world to live and develop is a security risk for them, but that approach has no future, no matter how hard you try.
I am sure countries emerging and developing love a good slap from the US... there is no way that is ever going to bite them in the ass... America will be fine because it can just keep on printing more money and everything will be OK.
The amusing thing is when America expects Russian help in situations like Iran or North Korea... why is Russia so unreasonable...
The first time shit really hits the fan and CONUS starts bleeding for the war your elite is desperately trying to provoke, we will see what the real resistance of US is to those psychological effects you mention, but I would not be very optimistic.
We have seen it with various cyclones... they went to pieces pretty damn quick...
I remember talking to US teenagers in the 1990s and they would talk about the rest of the world like we are all uncivilised savages that will turn on each other at the drop of a hat... I particularly remember during the Rodney King riots how civilised and brotherly the US could be... lots of footage of poor people stealing shit...
A paranoia so intense that we allowed half the world to have a massive trade surplus against us.
Don't tell me you don't understand trade... because with all the paper money shit you lot have been printing this last century or so of course the world will have a trade deficit with you with your monopoly money being pumped out as fast as you can print it... the real question is how long is the rest of the world going to keep accepting that shit with you guys printing it like it is confetti.
Not to forget the role played by the US government post World War II to convert backward countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, China and a whole lot of countries in Europe into developed states.
You propped them up as US controlled bitches for the next war you were lining up with the Soviets... the country that carried the heaviest load fighting your last war against the Nazis that you created because you were all such dicks about WWI.
The reason why U.S did not suffer "terrible homeland attrition and the real prospect of being totally annihilated, both politically and ethnically" is because compared to our adversary we were always better prepared.
More like because the countries actively stirring up shit and starting wars didn't do anything along those lines in their own country...
You even helped the Irish against your own allies Britain...
Hate to rain on your parade but CONUS won't bleed for decades to come.
Civil wars are the worst because Americans on both sides will be bleeding...
Uhuh, as if Japan, Korea, Singapore and China wouldn't be able to rise up on their own without American "Help". You are exaggerating America's role in these countries' developments. America needs to stop claiming credit for other's accomplishments.
Just looking at the speed of Russias rise back up... ignored initially and then actively working against growth and development in Russia I would say they have done spectacularly well.
I never said any of these things. I gave you technical reasons as to why Russian Navy is way behind the US in NCW. Your inability to understand a point is not my problem.
But they aren't... they have AEGIS in their Corvettes and Frigates and upgraded ships are getting systems too as will their new ships and aircraft.
Their MiG-29KRs can do all the flash shit an F-35 can do passing target data back to the ships via satellite links etc etc...
Since such an endeavor is so easy and yet so rewarding maybe Russia, China can try this method (that you outlined) as well.
It only works if you can bully or fool the whole world to use the US dollar as the international currency of trade. Fortunately your recent presidents have been wielding the US dollar as a weapon against Russia and China and Iran and plenty of other countries too so they and others are looking for alternatives... recently the Euro surpassed the US dollar in international trade... maybe they should start boosting printing...
China regularly manipulates the value of its currency to make foreign currency like the USD more expensive and therefore less attractive.
It didn't matter before because most international transactions were done in US dollars. Domestic currency manipulation might mean you end up getting more money than you expected when converting it back, but it will also mean you get less dollars when converting it to make the purchase so there is no advantage unless you can time your purchases and sales to coincide with the correct fluctuation... you could just as easily get it wrong and lose money...
Moving this discussion to talking bollocks thread.... too far off topic.
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