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    Russian Engagement in Africa

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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:40 am

    MOSCOW, March 22. /TASS/. Russia and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) are interested in bringing the trade and economic cooperation between the two countries to a new level, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told a news conference on Wednesday following talks with DRC Minister of Foreign Affairs and Regional Integration, Leonard She Okitundu.

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    Post  eric1 Wed May 10, 2017 2:19 am

    I think there could be a role for Russian in Africa in terms of helping to stem the tide of the spread of radical Islam on the continent. Currently the US has an African Command there, but it appears in many locales a few more boots on the ground would definitely help and no doubt be appreciated.
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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:25 pm

    Angola’s Angosat telecoms satellite taken to designated orbit

    A Zenit-2SB carrier rocket, carrying the Angosat satellite, was launched at 22:00 on Tuesday from the Baikonur space center

    MOSCOW, December 27. /TASS/. Angola’s Angosat telecoms satellite, launched atop Zenit-2SB rocket from the Baikonur space center on Tuesday, separated from the Fregat booster and is now in the designated orbit, a source in the Roscosmos state corporation told TASS on Wednesday.

    "The spacecraft separated from the Fregat booster," the source said.

    The satellite will use its own thrusters to reach the final orbit. The maneuver is expected to be completed at 9:54 Moscow time on Wednesday.

    A Zenit-2SB carrier rocket, carrying Angola's telecommunications satellite Angosat, was launched at 22:00 on Tuesday from the Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan. The first stage separated two and a half minutes into the launch and fell in Kazakhstan’s Karaganda region. The Fregat booster and the payload separated from the rocket eight minutes after the launch.

    The 1,647-kilogram Angosat geostationary satellite has been produced at Russia’s Energiya Rocket and Space Corporation under a contract with the Angolan Telecommunications and Information Technology Ministry. It is intended to provide communications and TV broadcasting for Angola and the entire African continent.


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    Post  George1 Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:20 pm

    Lavrov to discuss in Ethiopia new nuclear sciences center, based on Russian reactor

    Lavrov expressed hope the visit "will be a useful input in development of the time-tested relations between the countries"

    MOSCOW, March 3. /TASS/. Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during the coming visit to Ethiopia will discuss organization of a nuclear sciences center in that country.

    "Our plans include organization of Ethiopia’s center for nuclear sciences and technologies, based on the Russian research reactor," he said in an interview with The Reporter Ethiopia.

    The foreign minister continued by saying that during the upcoming talks with the Ethiopian counterpart Workneh Gebeyehu he plans "discussing in detail ways to develop further the bilateral cooperation with the focus on its trade, economic and investment components, implementation of joint projects, including in the energy, and nuclear energy".

    "Among promising directions is the Russian support in organization there of Ethiopia’s scientific research base for fundamental and applied research," he said.

    "We also hope the visit will favor strengthening of the foreign-policy coordination between our countries," Lavrov added.

    The Russia foreign minister expressed hope the visit "will be a useful input in development of the time-tested relations between the countries" and called symbolic the fact the visit would take place on the background of 120 years of diplomatic relations.

    "We are pleased to see that Russia and Ethiopia pay special attention to this memorial date: celebration events will continue through the year," he said. Moscow and Addis Ababa will have scientific conferences featuring outstanding political and public figures, cultural events, and exhibitions of archived documents.

    On March 2, the Foreign Ministry’s Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Lavrov on March 5-9 would pay visits to Angola, Namibia, Mozambique, Zimbabwe and Ethiopia.


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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:19 pm

    Russia, Mozambique to step up military-technical cooperation

    The Russian foreign minister also pointed to the development of educational ties between the two countries


    MAPUTO, March 7. /TASS/. Russia, Mozambique plan to develop military-technical cooperation, and a joint working group that was established last year will foster cooperation in this area, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said after negotiations with his Mozambican counterpart Jose Pacheco on Wednesday.

    "Considering the experience of our interaction - which is long, very successful and is positively regarded by both sides - in the sphere of military-technical cooperation, we stated that the decision to establish a working group on military-technical cooperation that first convened last year would also foster development of cooperation in this important area," he said.

    Lavrov also pointed to the development of educational ties between the two countries. "Several hundreds of Mozambican citizens are studying in Russian higher educational institutions for civilian occupational specialties, as well as in educational institutions of the Russian Defense Ministry and the Interior Ministry," he reported.

    According to the Russian foreign minister, the main task remains the development of trade-economic cooperation to the level that would correspond to active political dialogue. "We’ve got first results here already: an agreement to set up an intergovernmental commission on trade-economic cooperation has been reached, and the first meeting will be held the next month in Maputo," Lavrov stated.

    The agreement on military-technical cooperation

    The Russian and Mozambican governments signed an agreement on military-technical cooperation in late January, 2017. The document stipulates deliveries of arms and military equipment, as well as other military-oriented products, spare parts and components.

    The agreement was inked for five years, and after the expiration it will be prolonged for another five years if neither party notifies the other six months before the date of expiry on the intention to terminate it.

    Strategic partnership

    Russia shares Mozambique’s determination to take bilateral relations to the strategic partnership level, according to Lavrov.

    "We value our friendly relations that have stood the test of time and share the task of taking them to the strategic partnership level," Lavrov said.

    "We would like to expand our interaction in various fields, first and foremost, in the area of trade and economy," he added.

    The Mozambique foreign minister, in turn, confirmed his country’s interest in establishing strategic partnership with Russia that, in his words, would benefit both countries.

    "We have seen proof of Russia’s technological successes during President Vladimir Putin’s address to the Federal Assembly on March 1," Pacheco noted.

    War on terror

    Russia and Mozambique share a common stance that the fight against terrorism is a task of paramount importance for the entire global community, Lavrov said.

    "Just like our Mozambican friends, we believe it is an absolute priority for the international community to pool efforts to combat terrorism on the common solid basis of international law without any double standards , without attempts to use extremists for narrow-minded geopolitical goals," he said.

    "This initiative was put forward by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a recent UN General Assembly session, and it continues to be fully relevant," the minister went on to say. "Considering the growing terrorist threat, despite certain achievements in the fight against this evil, it continues to pose a huge number of problems to many countries in the region."


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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:56 pm

    Moscow has provided free military aid to the Central African Republic at the country’s government’s request

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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:04 pm

    Russian military presence in the Central African Republic

    The French newspaper Le Monde published an article by Rémy Ourdan entitled "Soldats, mercenaires et conseillers russes se centlifient dans la capitale centrafricaine" ("Russian soldiers and mercenaries are arriving in the capital of the Central African Republic"), which states that "Russia is gradually expanding its military presence in the Central African Republic after the signing of a bilateral agreement in December 2017 "(translation is given on the web resource inosmi.ru).

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3174259.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:17 pm

    Zimbabwe’s president hopes for Russia’s economic support


    Emmerson Mnangagwa recalled that the history of bilateral cooperation is "very long"

    MOSCOW, January 15. /TASS/. During the negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Zimbabwe’s President Emmerson Mnangagwa expressed his hope that Russia would lend a helping hand to Zimbabwe as its senior partner.

    "There is a very long history of cooperation between Zimbabwe and your great country," the leader of Zimbabwe addressed the Russian leader. He stated that Russia supported Zimbabwe during the struggle for independence and that Russia helped train the country’s military. In his speech, the African leader highlighted the need for economic cooperation between Russia and Zimbabwe, a "developing, third-world country." "You, as a senior brother, you can hold my hand as I try to develop Zimbabwe," Mnangagwa said.

    "Zimbabwe has been suffering from sanctions imposed by the West for nearly twenty years," the president noted, adding that Russia stood by Zimbabwe "during the days of isolation.".


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    Russia, Zimbabwe inked license agreement on Darwendale platinum deposit


    Furthermore, a MoU was signed between the African Export-Import Bank and the Russian-Zimbabwean Great Dyke Investments on provision of project financing by this bank of up to $192 mln

    MOSCOW, January 15. /TASS/. Russia and Zimbabwe signed a range of agreements for implementation of a joint project on development of the Darwendale platinum group metals deposit. Documents were signed in presence of Russian President Vladimir Putin and President of Zimbabwe Emmerson Mnangagwa after their talks.

    In particular, a license agreement on mineral resources mining on this field was signed. Furthermore, a memorandum of understanding was signed between the African Export-Import Bank and the Russian-Zimbabwean Great Dyke Investments on provision of project financing by this bank in the amount up to $192 mln.

    Great Dyke Investments also signed a memorandum with the African Financial Corporation on shareholding participation in the Darwendale project in the amount up to $75 mln. Furthermore, a memorandum was signed to secure political risks of Russia’s VTB Group participation in the project.

    The Darwendale deposit is the second largest in the world. It comprises reserves of platinum, palladium, rhodium, gold, nickel and copper.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:56 pm

    A very interesting article (original in Italian, translated with google) about the Russian investment in africa and their clashes with other countries, especially France, that consider most of the continent as their personal "hunting ground" and want to continue to pillage it indefinitely, with horrible consequence both for the African countries and for Europe, with the so called "migrant crisis", mainly caused by french actions.

    I would like Italy to take a similar (to the current Russian one) investment and participation campaign in Africa.

    The Russian approach reminds me something that Italy already tried in Africa and in the middle-east between 1959 and 1962, before Enrico Mattei was killed with a bomb on his plane for being a menace to French and American exploitation campaigns.

    http://www.difesaonline.it/geopolitica/analisi/le-mani-russe-sullafrica

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    Russian hands ON AFRICA


    (by Andrea Gaspardo)

    07/27/19

    For a long time, Africa has been the continent that, together with Southeast Asia, has seen the greatest effort by the great powers to conquer new spaces of both economic and geopolitical influence. For a long time now, the main Western media and study centers have been focusing on the exponential growth of Chinese interests in Africa, in direct contrast to those long established by the former European colonizing powers and the United States of America. However, very few Western analysts have so far noted Russia's return in grand style to the great African geopolitical and geo-economic games.

    Examined from a long-term perspective, this evolution has no economic logic at all and indeed promises to guarantee a perennial presence in Moscow in the "Black Continent". Unlike most nineteenth-century European powers, the Russian Empire has never owned colonies on African soil, limiting itself only to superficial economic and diplomatic relations with the colonies and protectorates created by the European powers on the spot, as well as with the Empire Ethiopian, the only African country not to be occupied by Europeans.

    Things changed during the "Cold War", when the Soviet Union began a titanic effort to establish profitable relations with all national liberation movements and with independent newborns in order to attract those countries into the orbit of the "Eastern Bloc ". Indeed, the influence that Moscow had on the African continent between 1960 and 1991 was considered by most, greater than that of the United States and the former colonial powers put together.

    The end of the "Cold War" and the disintegration of the Soviet Union itself led to the substantial end of any strategic Russian presence on African soil creating a vacuum that the US and Europe were happy to fill again. And yet, starting in 2003, we are witnessing an overwhelming return of Russia also to this continent, apparently so far from the traditional areas of interest of Russian geopolitics.

    In the early days it was a "muted" return, mainly by re-establishing limited economic and military relations with a small number of formerly close allies. After the "crisis of Ukraine" and the beginning of the Russian intervention in Syria, however, the process has undergone an abrupt acceleration so as to now interest the whole continent (with a particular focus on a dozen major countries). Moreover, for the first time ever, it seems that the Russians are pursuing an integrated strategy which, in addition to benefiting the state and Russian companies, has the long-term objective of definitively stabilizing African countries from a security standpoint. so that they can then "march on their own" and then establish a partnership with Moscow that leads to shared political choices. From this point of view, the Muscovite approach to African affairs differs considerably from that of Western countries but also from that of China, aimed solely at the hoarding and exploitation of the continent's natural resources and without a clear vision with respect to the future role political of Africa.

    Considering the plurality of its initiatives, Moscow has spent around $ 20 billion on the African continent, from 2003 to the present; a figure that would seem ridiculously low. Furthermore, with GDP growth of 1.5% and 1.8% in the three-year period 2018-2020, Russia cannot be considered a "large economic area" capable of creating synergies with Africa market such as to remove the African masses from their condition of poverty. However, what the African elites really care about is the ability of the Russians to "export security" and contribute to the stabilization of conflicts on the African continent to allow them to focus on domestic economic development plans. In other words: a sort of replica of the role that Russia has excellently played in Syria.

    Certainly, apart from geopolitics, the Russian state (and its various "informal" extensions) also expect a certain economic return from such "operations" in such a way that they can at least "self-finance" themselves, but this, for a vast and very rich continent of natural resources of all kinds, is not a problem at all. Between 2005 and 2015, for example, the volume of investments and free trade between Russia and Africa grew by 185% and registered the greatest expansion especially in the energy and mining fields. Here, companies such as Gazprom, Lukoil, Renova, Rusal and Alrosa only billed about $ 10.5 billion in the first six months of 2018.

    The big Russian giants are trying to diversify their interests by moving outside of normal oil and gas investments. For example, finalizing the construction of nuclear power plants in Egypt, Nigeria and Algeria and hydroelectric power stations in Angola, Namibia and Botswana, producing aluminum in Nigeria, developing the largest platinum field in the world in Zimbabwe and extracting uranium in Namibia.

    In general, given that over 620 million people in Africa do not have access to electricity, the energy production and distribution sector should be the one with the greatest potential for growth and from which Russian companies can expect the greatest economic return. In the military and in the security field, Russia not only supplies arms to African states (already during the "Cold War" Africa was the second "consumer" of Soviet armaments after the Middle East) but now actively contributes to the reconstruction and the training of the armed and security forces of a plurality of African states. The most important cases, leaping to the headlines in recent months have been those of the Central African Republic and Sudan, where Russian military instructors probably placed in the private military and security company "Wagner", managed by Yevgeny Prigozhin (man with solids ties to the Kremlin), have completely retrained and re-equipped the men of the special forces and presidential guards of the two countries. The departments reformed by the Russians were then involved in anti-guerrilla operations with excellent results. The success achieved led to the establishment of other similar "military missions" in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and in Chad while the presence of military instructors in South Sudan and Libya in support of the general Haftar's militias is not confirmed (but highly probable).




    In addition to military aid, Moscow has also decided to "invest in the social sector" through humanitarian aid that can be quantified at around $ 400 million a year, 60% of which is distributed through international organizations such as the World Food Program and the UN agencies that deal with of refugees and 40% as direct bilateral aid to individual governments. The investment in the media field is also interesting, with the creation of newspapers, TV companies and so-called "new media" in particular in South Africa, Morocco and Madagascar. In the latter country, the Russians have thoroughly supported the re-election of Andry Rajoelina (former president for the first time between 2009 and 2014) by organizing his electoral campaign and arranging the free distribution of no less than two million copies every monthly of the main newspaper in the country.

    Needless to say, Muscovite activism is not favorably viewed by Western chancelleries but not even by China itself, which thus sees its margins of predominance eroded. But the country that most seriously took the moves of Putin and his men was France, given that a good number of the countries in which Russian penetration efforts are concentrated are precisely those belonging to the so-called "Francophone Africa" and which are treated from Paris as exclusive "hunting grounds".

    The country where the fiercest clash occurred was the aforementioned Central African Republic where, through the influence acquired on local secret services, almost all pro-French politicians were marginalized in a very short time and the country as a whole now comes defined as "controlled by Moscow for 83%".

    Beyond the situation in the individual countries, what seems interesting is the effort made to try to give new momentum to the process of forming an African identity with investments in schools and academia to foster the growth of Africa as a cooperation block uniform. The latter initiative is at the base of the "Russia-Africa forum" which will be organized in Sochi in October of this year and which will see the presence of 50 African heads of state. The success of such an initiative would be a harbinger of new developments for cooperation between Russia and Africa, even at the geostrategic level, but we will only see these hypothetical scenarios in the future.
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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:08 pm

    Russia calls for lifting Western sanctions against Zimbabwe, says minister


    Russia sees potential for nuclear energy cooperation with Zimbabwe, according to the minister

    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. Russia believes that Western sanctions slapped on Zimbabwe are hindering the country’s socio-economic development and is in favor of removing them, Russian Natural Resources and Environment Minister Dmitry Kobylkin stated.

    "We are strongly in favor of fully removing Western sanctions against Harare, which are hampering efforts aimed at Zimbabwe’s socio-economic development," the minister told a meeting of the Russia-Zimbabwe Intergovernmental Commission for Economic, Trade, Scientific and Technical Cooperation.

    Kobylkin added that Russia and Zimbabwe would be creating conditions to diversify cooperation. Specifically, they will address enhancing the bilateral legal framework.

    The European Union, the United States, Canada and Australia earlier imposed political and economic restrictions on Zimbabwe and some of its statespersons in response to human rights violations under the Mugabe administration. Robert Mugabe agreed to step down as Zimbabwe’s President in November 2017 under pressure from the military. Nevertheless, the sanctions have not been lifted to date. The EU restrictive measures, in particular, have been extended until February 2020.

    Nuclear energy cooperation with Zimbabwe


    As Russian Natural Resources and Environment Minister Dmitry Kobylkin told the meeting, Russia sees the potential for intensifying cooperation with Zimbabwe in using nuclear energy for peaceful purposes.

    "We see the potential for the development of Russian-Zimbabwean cooperation in using nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Nuclear technologies could be a solution that would not only help ensure Zimbabwe’s energy security but would also serve as a comprehensive driving force for economic development," he said.

    The minister added that, apart from solving the power shortage problem, nuclear technologies are widely applied in agriculture, medicine and industry.

    Kobylkin also pointed out the potential for joint ventures in the diamond industry, specifically those involving Alrosa and Zimbabwe Consolidated Diamond Company (ZCDC).

    According to the minister, Russia’s Rosgeo geological holding is interested in cultivating ties in all areas related to subsurface work, including mineral exploration.

    Russian-Zimbabwean trade

    The volume of Russian-Zimbabwean trade over the first five months of 2019 increased by 9.5% year-on-year to $18.5 mln, Russian Natural Resources Minister Dmitry Kobylkin reported.

    However, the overall bilateral trade in 2018 totaled $45.9 mln, which is 13.6% less than a year earlier, he noted.

    The minister added that considering the powerful and diverse potential of the African state, as well as taking into account the government's plans for attracting foreign investment, Russia hopes to boost cooperation under the auspices of the joint commission.

    The offer of alternative methods of payment for military supplies

    Russia has called on Zimbabwe to consider the option of alternative methods of payment for military supplies, as seen in the report of a meeting of the Russia-Zimbabwe Intergovernmental Commission on Economic, Trade, Scientific and Technical Cooperation.

    In particular, Russia asked Zimbabwe for information on acceptable areas of cooperation in the area.

    According to the report, Zimbabwe will forward its initiatives to Russia before the end of September.

    Defense cooperation between Russia and Zimbabwe is primarily focused on maintaining and upgrading military equipment, particularly the Mil Mi-24 and Mil Mi-35 attack helicopters, previously delivered to the African country.

    A draft memorandum of cooperation

    Russia will send a draft memorandum of cooperation on diamond mining and processing to Zimbabwe, according to the minutes of the fourth meeting of the Russian-Zimbabwean Intergovernmental Commission on Economic, Trade, Scientific and Technical Cooperation.

    The draft memorandum will supplement the agreement earlier concluded between Russian diamond producer Alrosa and the Zimbabwe Consolidated Diamond Company (ZCDC) on establishing a joint venture to develop diamond deposits in the African country.

    "The Zimbabwean side will consider the draft and forward a response in the near future," according to the minutes of the meeting.

    In mid-July 2019, Alrosa and the Zimbabwean state company inked an agreement on creating a joint venture to develop greenfield projects. Under the agreement, the shares of Alrosa and ZCDC in the joint venture will be 70% and 30% respectively.

    The parties confirmed their support for the stipulations of the agreement, the minutes of the meeting read.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:51 am

    Mugabe should say he will return to power if the sanctions are not lifted because if they comply with the deal and the west does not comply with their part then it is not really a deal... it is a surrender.
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:38 am

    Russian energy companies considering projects in Mozambique — official

    Mozambique has a range of competitive climatic and geopolitical advantages, the official said

    MOSCOW, August 21. /TASS/. Russians majors, with Rosneft, Rosseti and Inter RAO-Export among them, are exploring opportunities of joint projects with Mozambique, head of the Federal Agency for Mineral Resources (Rosnedra) Evgeni Kiselev said on Wednesday.

    Mozambique has a range of competitive climatic and geopolitical advantages, the official said.

    "Natural gas projects have a very convenient location. Gas reserves in Mozambique are vast. The geopolitical position make possible to reliably develop gas transport systems. South Africa and Zimbabwe, which are among major consumers of energy resources in Africa, are located nearby," Kiselev said.

    Gold and phosphate deposits are also present in the country, he noted. Projects in coal and iron ore mining are implemented, Kiselev added.
    https://tass.com/economy/1074520
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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:39 am

    Russian, Angolan top diplomats to discuss conflicts in Africa


    Sergey Lavrov and Manuel Domingos Augusto will exchange views on regional and global issues of mutual importance


    MOSCOW, August 26. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Angolan counterpart Manuel Domingos Augusto will hold talks in Moscow on Monday to discuss economic cooperation between the two countries and ways to resolve conflicts in Africa, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    "The two ministers will exchange views on regional and global issues of mutual importance, focusing on ways to resolve crises in Africa’s trouble spots, including the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, South Sudan and Somalia," the statement reads.

    The top diplomats will pay special attention to trade, economic, investment and mining cooperation between Russia and Angola, as well as to business ties between the two countries’ regions. In addition, they will also discuss preparations for the Russia - Africa Summit scheduled to take place in Sochi in October.

    According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the two countries maintain meaningful political dialogue based on "similar views of global processes and similar approaches to forming a fair world order, commitment to the primacy of international law and the principle of non-interference in the domestic affairs of sovereign states." Russia and Angola also closely cooperate within the United Nations and on other international platforms, the ministry added.

    Russia’s Black Sea resort of Sochi will host the first Russia-Africa Summit on October 24. The leaders of more than 50 countries of the region have been invited, 35 of whom have confirmed their participation. Presidents Vladimir Putin of Russian and Abdel Fattah al-Sisi of Egypt, which is presiding over the African Union in 2019, will co-chair the summit.

    https://tass.com/politics/1074968
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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:15 am

    Russia-Africa Forum will upgrade cooperation between states — Putin


    The Russian leader stressed that the event is the first of its kind in the history of the Russian-African relations


    MOSCOW, October 8. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has sent his greetings to the members of the first Russian-Africa Economic Forum in a message published on the Kremlin website on Tuesday.

    "I hope that in the course of the forum, we will develop new areas and methods of cooperation, offering promising joint initiatives that could upgrade cooperation between Russia and Africa and ensure development of our economies and prosperity of our people," the message reads.

    Putin stressed that the event is the first of its kind in the history of the Russian-African relations, which "have intensified recently both at the bilateral level and within various multilateral platforms." The Russian president has noted the good dynamics of trade turnover and joint projects in the sphere of extractive industry, agriculture, healthcare and education between Russia and African countries.

    "Russian companies are ready to offer their scientific and technological developments, as well as the experience in the area of modernizing energy, transport and communications infrastructure, for the benefit of their African partners," the Russian leader stated.

    The Russia-Africa Summit and Economic Forum will take place on October 23-24 in Sochi. Leaders of 54 African states have been invited.

    https://tass.com/economy/1082082
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    Post  Cyberspec Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:30 am

    Sounds like Putin is challenging the west  Cool

    If you think what Putin did in the Middle East is impressive, prepare yourself for what is to come vis-a-vis Africa.

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    https://tass.com/politics/1084219

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    Post  jhelb Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:14 pm

    GarryB wrote:Russian and Chinese investment and trade with South Africa will be good for all involved... trade with no strings attached is what Africa needs to develop and grow...

    Russian yes but not China.

    China along with the US is working day in day out to create as many G-2 states as possible.

    A G-2 State is one that is tied to a US-led Security Architecture via foundational agreements on the one hand and tied to China's economic web on the other via omnibus agreements. Example of such G-2 states are Australia, New Zealand, India, western European states.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:28 am

    This is off topic, but are you saying China is working with the US to create its own panzy "yes" states, like those countries you mention the US already has?

    The ones for which "Highly likely" is good enough evidence to convict...

    The thing is that China is like Russia in the sense that it is too big for the US to isolate. The US can't isolate Russia from resources because Russia has an abundance of it own resources, so it tries to fight Russia by isolating them from money... specifically western money and western investment... problem for them is that it also isolates western customers from what is largely an enormous country with enormous undeveloped resources... there is a lot of money to be made in Russia and western companies whose countries tow to US line are missing out because of it... The US is trying to isolate China from technology and resources but the former horse has bolted because western companies rushed to build brand new modern factories there to produce their products cheaply... China has the people and the money and Russia has the resources... just on their own together they could easily survive without the west.

    But the west is only a tiny part of the world and both China and Russia know that... there are a lot of resources out there too that the west has not totally plundered, and China and Russia can develop those resources and build up those countries as alternative markets for their goods.

    China, just like Russia need a plan B... if the EU and the US and their cowardly allies called the west never drop the sanctions then China and Russia need new trade partners that they can trade with and help develop and grow, so in a sense they are developing ties with countries for the purpose of future trade and growth development, but as part of BRICS both Russia and China as well as Brazil and India are linked in an economic and political group intended to form an alternative to the exclusive west that wont let members in to its club unless you lose your nuts and lose your say and just agree with what Brussels or Washington tells you.

    It is team eunuch...

    What China and Russia want is a group of trade partners that are equals and don't make demands that the other changes anything to suit them or their beliefs... sort of the opposite of the west... which I think is something countries with experience with dealing with the west will actually appreciate.


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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:34 am

    The above two posts are from the Tu-160 thread but are more related to Russian (and Chinese) trade and attention in Africa.
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    Post  jhelb Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:26 pm

    GarryB wrote:This is off topic, but are you saying China is working with the US to create its own panzy "yes" states, like those countries you mention the US already has?

    Garry, if this is off topic please shift these posts to the relevant thread.

    To answer your question Yes. China indeed is working with the US to create an architecture from which only these 2 countries will benefit.
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    Post  Kiko Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:19 pm

    Europeans are trying to stop Russian expansion into Africa, by Peter Akopov for RIA NOVOSTI. 02/10/2021.

    On Thursday, a transport plane from Russia was met at the airport of the Malian capital Bamako - four Mi-171 helicopters were delivered on it . Defense Minister Sadio Camara came to meet them, saying that the country's authorities bought helicopters with their own money, and Russia offered to supply them with weapons and ammunition.

    "I was shocked by these words are unacceptable ... It is a shame and does no credit to this government, which is not even such as created by two coups." - and it is the words of President of France Emmanuel Makron , uttered in the same day. No, Macron has not responded to the words of Camara - he commented on the recent statement on the General Assembly of the United Nations , Prime Minister of Mali Shogelya Maiga, who said that "Paris tossed Bamako in mid-flight."

    It was about ending - or rather, reducing and reformulating - Operation Barkhan, which the French have been conducting since 2012 in Mali and neighboring countries, trying to curb the separatist Islamist groups (Tuareg and not only) that are gaining strength. The French did not succeed, on the contrary: nine years ago, the separatists were 600 kilometers from Bamako, and now they are already a hundred. So Macron decided to reduce the contingent and change the format of the operation, to which the Malian authorities replied:

    "The new situation emerging in connection with the completion of Operation Barkhan, which presented Mali with a fait accompli and led to the fact that we seemed to be thrown out halfway, prompted us to explore ways and means to better independently ensure security with other partners." ...

    Maigi did not name new partners - but it is no secret to anyone that this is about Russia. Back in the spring of this year, Russian flags and portraits of Putin were seen at demonstrations in Bamako with the slogans "Russia, help!", Which caused outrage not only in France, but in the West as a whole. No sooner had they come to their senses from the appearance of Russian PMCs and military advisers in the Central African Republic, as these Russians are already climbing into Mali!

    "A thousand Russians will be responsible for the security of dignitaries and the training of the Malian Armed Forces. They will be paid nine million euros a month and will have access to three mineral deposits."

    In August, Macron raised the topic of the Russian presence in Mali even in a telephone conversation with Putin. And in the last couple of weeks, after information appeared in the Western press about the upcoming signing of an agreement between the Malian government and PMC "Wagner", the French and the EU turned to public statements.

    There is no agreement yet (about 50 "security experts" from Russia work in Bamako so far). The Malian authorities promise to officially inform if it is signed, but the West is already threatening Mali with might and main. First, the French Foreign Minister warns that "the appearance in the republic of" Wagner ", which is notoriously famous in Syria , as well as in the Central African Republic for its cruelties, robberies and various violations of the rules of conduct, is absolutely incompatible with our presence." That is, it threatens with the withdrawal of all French forces in general.

    Then Josep Borrell said that Wagner "invitation to the group" "will not contribute to our relationship with the Government of Mali", followed in Bamako arrives French Defense Minister Florence Parley , to declare his Malian counterpart: the conclusion of a partnership contract with Russian mercenaries lead to "international isolation ". Yes, and also to the "reduction of sovereignty" of Mali.
    But this is the theater of the absurd: the former metropolis, which has been trying to control the situation in Mali for all 60 years of independence (the financial system, the economy, security issues, personnel training, and so on), is scaring its power by reducing its sovereignty! And at the same time - remember the words of Macron - speaks of their illegitimacy.

    Moreover, Paris is trying to put pressure on Moscow . Foreign Minister Le Drian last week in New York "warned Lavrov about the serious consequences of Wagner's interference in the affairs of this country." And Lavrov answered publicly:

    “They turned to a private military company from Russia in connection with the fact that, as I understand it, France wants to significantly reduce its military contingent ... They failed to do anything, and the terrorists are still running the show there. assessed their strength as insufficient without external support, since external support is dwindling from those who pledged to help eradicate terrorism, they turned to a private Russian military company."

    The activities of the Russian PMC on the territory of Mali concern the relationship between it and the government of the country, and the Russian authorities have nothing to do with this, Lavrov added, and legally he is absolutely right. PMCs are needed in order to do what, for one reason or another, one does not want to formalize at the level of interstate relations, which the West has been using for a very long time (many centuries, if we recall history).
    Lavrov and Borrell answered - telling about the details of his meeting with him in New York:

    "Africa is our place". He just said so. If he really wants to talk on these topics, it would be better to synchronize the efforts of both the EU and Russia with regard to the fight against terrorism not only in Mali, but also in the entire Sahara-Sahel region. And to say: "I am the first here, so go away" is insulting for the Bamako government, which has invited external partners, and secondly, it is generally forbidden to talk to anyone like that."

    It is clear that in Europe they will continue to resent the "Russian expansion" in Africa , although our presence there is incomparable with the European one.

    Yes, Russia is the leading supplier of weapons to the Black Continent - but otherwise our positions there are significantly inferior to those in the West. And they are far behind the level of the 70s and 80s, when Soviet influence in Africa reached its maximum. So we have a lot to strive for - and, most importantly, many African countries themselves want to increase Russia's influence. Two years ago , the first Russian-African summit was held in Sochi - the presidents of most countries of the continent came to Vladimir Putin:

    "We need you to demonstrate your friendship with us in the region. Everyone knows that you are a hero, Mr. President."

    So said at the summit none other than the President of Mali, Ibrahim Boubacar Keita . Under him, bilateral agreements on military-technical cooperation were concluded. By the way, they are far from the first in the history of our relations, because back in the early 60s, immediately after gaining independence, Mali became one of Moscow's close African partners.

    At the same time, no one considered Keita a pro-Russian ruler - he just saw what was happening in his country and the region as a whole, especially after the West destroyed Libya.

    Less than a year later, the president was overthrown by the army, but the leaders of the new government retained an interest in strengthening ties with Russia. The Western press explains this by their "Russian" past: Defense Minister Kamara studied for a year at the Russian military academy, and Prime Minister Maigi received a diploma in communications engineer from us back in the Soviet years. But it is ridiculous to reduce the policy of the Malian authorities to the details of their biographies - especially since an order of magnitude more local politicians have French diplomas.

    It's just that the Malians (like all Africans) want real independence (not to mention the fact that they need to fight to preserve a single state), and Russia is just the force that can help them in this. This was the case in the 1960s, and it remains so now.

    Then, however, many African countries announced their socialist choice - not so much because they counted on Soviet help, but because of the desire to get rid of the control of the former colonialists, to build an independent economy. Almost no one succeeded: there were too many internal problems and conflicts in states with arbitrarily cut borders, and the former owners, in fact, were not going to let go of the threads of government. As a result, Africa abandoned socialism. But not from the dream of real sovereignty - and at a new turn in history, he again looks with hope at Moscow.

    https://ria.ru/20211002/evropa-1752742022.html

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:34 am

    Raises a very good point... a lot of the socialism around during the cold war had nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with trying to seize back their own countries from foreign colonial powers... Vietnam, Cuba, Korea, and many others were occupied colonial victims... Castro actually approached the Americans for help to kick the rich white colonials out of Cuba so that Cubans could have a future that involved more than working sugar cane fields or being Cabana boys bringing rich white tourists drinks on the beach...
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:Raises a very good point... a lot of the socialism around during the cold war had nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with trying to seize back their own countries from foreign colonial powers... Vietnam, Cuba, Korea, and many others were occupied colonial victims... Castro actually approached the Americans for help to kick the rich white colonials out of Cuba so that Cubans could have a future that involved more than working sugar cane fields or being Cabana boys bringing rich white tourists drinks on the beach...

    Well that's a given

    Russia itself adopted Orthodox Christianity not so much because drinking was allowed in it while forbidden in Islam, but because next door was the very rich and successful Byzantine Empire and the Rus' princes decided they want to learn from them rather than just plundering them like they did before.

    The Teutonic Knights would later establish contacts and trade partnerships with the by that time quite independent Novgorod Republic, and would steadily entice a considerable share of its mercantile elite to their side. Their hope was to convert Novgorod to the true faith, Catholicism, but Aleksander Nevsky would have none of it and it ultimately came to blows, which he won at Lake Peipus and that was the end of that.
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