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Western propaganda
Hannibal Barca- Posts : 1443
Points : 1451
Join date : 2013-12-13
- Post n°401
Re: Western propaganda
Propaganda is only important for those who don't act not for those who act. USA assets is way overstretched so counterattack is easy but you have to be concentrated and decisive.
Godric- Posts : 800
Points : 826
Join date : 2015-04-30
Location : Alba (Scotland)
- Post n°402
Re: Western propaganda
Project Canada wrote:Ukraine wins Eurovision 2016 with politically-charged song
I cant wait to see this entire charade end with the complete annihilation of Russia's enemies, The US is attacking Russia in all fronts! Security, Economics, Media, even at Sports! When will the United Snakes finally be crushed and purged from history forever???
did anybody actually hear her attempt to sing ... by f*ck was she brutal ... i'm a way better at singing than she was
Project Canada- Posts : 662
Points : 663
Join date : 2015-07-20
Location : Canada
- Post n°403
Re: Western propaganda
Time to turn the tide against the Ukrop scumbags!
Please sign and share
https://www.change.org/p/european-broadcasting-union-make-eurovision-song-contest-revise-the-results-of-the-song-contest-2016?source_location=petitions_share_skip
Please sign and share
https://www.change.org/p/european-broadcasting-union-make-eurovision-song-contest-revise-the-results-of-the-song-contest-2016?source_location=petitions_share_skip
higurashihougi- Posts : 3141
Points : 3228
Join date : 2014-08-13
Location : A small and cutie S-shaped land.
- Post n°404
Re: Western propaganda
sepheronx- Posts : 8558
Points : 8820
Join date : 2009-08-06
Age : 34
Location : Canada
- Post n°406
Re: Western propaganda
Saw that on twitter and made a comment about French not being smart. I think some were pissed.
Project Canada- Posts : 662
Points : 663
Join date : 2015-07-20
Location : Canada
- Post n°407
Re: Western propaganda
I am tired of Western MSM attempts to make people believe that harsh and brutal tactics against PlSslamic Terrorists results to more radicalization of muslim people as if being soft to these barbarians will make them less aggressive. I say Blow up entire villages that adheres to violent forms of Islam, if there is no one left then there wont be future fighters to avenge their deceased TErrorist relatives.
sepheronx- Posts : 8558
Points : 8820
Join date : 2009-08-06
Age : 34
Location : Canada
- Post n°408
Re: Western propaganda
Putin's popularity is quite high in those regions actually. And add to that, a huge, and I mean huge portion of these "russian Muslims" are not even actually Russian or Daegestani or Chechen or any of that. Many are foreigners. Rest are just tribals or mobsters.
Not like any of that matters. They can claim that it is having an "opposite" effect. But reality is, it is making these people desparate and they are now pushing back which is great, cause they are exposing themselves. I can only hope no innocent die, but facts are facts.
Russia has faced terrorism for over a hundred years. There are photos and documents of Cossaks in Chechnya back in late 19th century. These people from FP or any other western organization who have a history that is nothing but a drop in a bucket compared to Russia's. And Russia's anti terrorism experience greatly outweighs that of America's, especially in dealing with Islamists or Muslims.
Not like any of that matters. They can claim that it is having an "opposite" effect. But reality is, it is making these people desparate and they are now pushing back which is great, cause they are exposing themselves. I can only hope no innocent die, but facts are facts.
Russia has faced terrorism for over a hundred years. There are photos and documents of Cossaks in Chechnya back in late 19th century. These people from FP or any other western organization who have a history that is nothing but a drop in a bucket compared to Russia's. And Russia's anti terrorism experience greatly outweighs that of America's, especially in dealing with Islamists or Muslims.
kvs- Posts : 15185
Points : 15322
Join date : 2014-09-11
Location : Turdope's Kanada
- Post n°409
Re: Western propaganda
Project Canada wrote:I am tired of Western MSM attempts to make people believe that harsh and brutal tactics against PlSslamic Terrorists results to more radicalization of muslim people as if being soft to these barbarians will make them less aggressive. I say Blow up entire villages that adheres to violent forms of Islam, if there is no one left then there wont be future fighters to avenge their deceased TErrorist relatives.
No need for Russia to go all Reich on the Daghestanis. Daghestan is a rather unique country (yes it can be part of the Russian Federation and be a real country,
something the NATzO Borg Collective can't understand) which is composed of hundreds of ethnic groups even though it covers a small territory.
Wahabbit terrorists have next to zero chance in succeeding to grab control of Daghestan. They can engage in terror acts and try to bait one
ethnic group against another but they simply don't have the traction from the people to win them over to suck Saudi, Qatari and ultimately
NATzO schlong.
The Wahabbis failed in Chechnya. They didn't even get far in Ingushetia which was the next best hope after Chechnya given the history
and the similarity. They have much less of a chance in Daghestan. Russia is correct to focus on blowing up Wahabbi nests in the middle east.
You have to think of them as bacterial colonies that continuously release "spores" that induce infections and inflammations in nearby tissues.
Treating them outside the colony is not effective since there is a never ending stream of spores. Wiping out the colony is by far the most
effective.
kvs- Posts : 15185
Points : 15322
Join date : 2014-09-11
Location : Turdope's Kanada
- Post n°411
Re: Western propaganda
Militarov wrote:
Typical NATzO chauvinist retards. There were many Germans during the 1930s that "thought" in a similar manner.
The question is not some 1700s invasion which everybody and his dog in Europe engaged in, the question is
what sort of real security will creating a NATzO military attack infrastructure on Russia's borders achieve?
But these retards don't have the mental capacity to think beyond primitive ape them is bad, us is good tribal
hate.
sepheronx- Posts : 8558
Points : 8820
Join date : 2009-08-06
Age : 34
Location : Canada
- Post n°412
Re: Western propaganda
Forget them. Cause they are usually will be the ones crying for mercy.
Project Canada- Posts : 662
Points : 663
Join date : 2015-07-20
Location : Canada
- Post n°413
Re: Western propaganda
I would say USA and NATO is Good at Propaganda, brainwashing and deception so people under their occupation are clueless that they are really under occupation
Project Canada- Posts : 662
Points : 663
Join date : 2015-07-20
Location : Canada
- Post n°414
Re: Western propaganda
You have to think of them as bacterial colonies that continuously release "spores" that induce infections and inflammations in nearby tissues.
Treating them outside the colony is not effective since there is a never ending stream of spores. Wiping out the colony is by far the most
effective.
I agree entirely with your opinion, I think if only Saudi Arabia never preached the hardline barbaric Salafist/Wahabbi version of Izlam throughout the Izlamic world, we wouldn't be witnessing all this Izlamic terrorism throughout the world today, although there will still be lots of Izlamic Terrorists/Extremists but they wouldn't number as many. They will need to do reforms in Izlam before the whole world gets enough and starts to act accordingly
KiloGolf- Posts : 2481
Points : 2461
Join date : 2015-09-01
Location : Macedonia, Hellas
- Post n°416
Re: Western propaganda
Militarov wrote:
French school textbook
This is what it feels to border the Soviet Union, the roles have been reversed... How sad
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- Post n°417
Re: Western propaganda
KiloGolf wrote:This is what it feels to border the Soviet Union, the roles have been reversed... How sad
I couldnt belive this when i saw it.. but.. oh well.
Hannibal Barca- Posts : 1443
Points : 1451
Join date : 2013-12-13
- Post n°418
Re: Western propaganda
KiloGolf wrote:Militarov wrote:
French school textbook
This is what it feels to border the Soviet Union, the roles have been reversed... How sad
This countries are conquered and actively occupied by USA since 1945. The conquer obviously establish it's own propaganda machine.
higurashihougi- Posts : 3141
Points : 3228
Join date : 2014-08-13
Location : A small and cutie S-shaped land.
- Post n°419
Re: Western propaganda
Hollande was educated in this system ? No wonder why he messed up the Mistral.
George1- Posts : 18342
Points : 18839
Join date : 2011-12-22
Location : Greece
- Post n°420
Re: Western propaganda
Putin urges resistance to information monopoly of western media
The Russian president says falsehoods about Russia must be prevented
MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged diplomats to resist the information monopoly of Western media and to prevent falsehoods about Russia.
"There should be pro-active resistance to the information monopoly of Western mass media and there should be all-round support for Russian media operating abroad," he said at a conference of ambassadors and Russian permanent representatives.
"Falsehoods about Russia should not be tolerated and falsification of history should not be permitted," Putin said.
As he dwelt upon the importance of efforts to mould a favorable public opinion Putin said that Russia paid great attention to that, "but in the context of a real information onslaught by some of our so-called partners against our country the task has emerged to step up efforts along these lines."
"Ours is information age and the saying ‘the one who owes information owns the world’ surely reflects the realities of today," Putin said.
"Sometimes one has the impression that nothing happens at all unless the media report the event," he said. Putin recalled that before one of his meetings with Jacques Chirac the former French president suggested inviting TV journalists.
"Or else they will say we had no meeting at all," Putin quoted Chirac as saying to add that he fully agreed.
More:
http://tass.ru/en/politics/885739
The Russian president says falsehoods about Russia must be prevented
MOSCOW, June 30. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged diplomats to resist the information monopoly of Western media and to prevent falsehoods about Russia.
"There should be pro-active resistance to the information monopoly of Western mass media and there should be all-round support for Russian media operating abroad," he said at a conference of ambassadors and Russian permanent representatives.
"Falsehoods about Russia should not be tolerated and falsification of history should not be permitted," Putin said.
As he dwelt upon the importance of efforts to mould a favorable public opinion Putin said that Russia paid great attention to that, "but in the context of a real information onslaught by some of our so-called partners against our country the task has emerged to step up efforts along these lines."
"Ours is information age and the saying ‘the one who owes information owns the world’ surely reflects the realities of today," Putin said.
"Sometimes one has the impression that nothing happens at all unless the media report the event," he said. Putin recalled that before one of his meetings with Jacques Chirac the former French president suggested inviting TV journalists.
"Or else they will say we had no meeting at all," Putin quoted Chirac as saying to add that he fully agreed.
More:
http://tass.ru/en/politics/885739
andalusia- Posts : 729
Points : 791
Join date : 2013-10-01
- Post n°421
Re: Western propaganda
Hey Garry B, I would like to know your opinion about the bilateral agreement with other countries regarding diplomatic immunity for US troops? I think a nation should not agree to it. Would like your thoughts.
http://www.globalissues.org/article/490/united-states-and-the-icc
I had a good response to a poster named Whir last year on this issue. He never responded; scroll down an read it.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t4194-diplomatic-immunity-for-us-military
http://www.globalissues.org/article/490/united-states-and-the-icc
I had a good response to a poster named Whir last year on this issue. He never responded; scroll down an read it.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t4194-diplomatic-immunity-for-us-military
GarryB- Posts : 39169
Points : 39667
Join date : 2010-03-30
Location : New Zealand
- Post n°422
Re: Western propaganda
Hey Garry B, I would like to know your opinion about the bilateral agreement with other countries regarding diplomatic immunity for US troops? I think a nation should not agree to it. Would like your thoughts.
Well it is made even more amusing when we consider that US law has been changed to allow prosecution of foreigners who have committed no crime in the US to be kidnapped and smuggled to the US to face trial for crimes against the US... Viktor Bout for example...
I guess one of the last phases of an empire is madness.
They genuinely think they bring good to the world and therefore because they are basically good they don't believe they can't be judged in the same way or by the same standards as the rest of us who must meet or exceed their high ideals.
International law is a tool to impose their will on others and cannot be applied to them by any means... after all they should not be stopped making the world more perfect and their many evil enemies might use such tools against them.
Imagine having to negotiate instead of simply bombing and murdering to get your way.
It does not enter their thinking that in negotiations both parties should benefit...
Yeah... don't get me started...
The huge irony is I like their high morals and agree with most of their ideas.... what I hate is that the ideals and morals are a fascade used to punish their enemies... free speech is a tool to allow the CIA or some rich western wanker to turn the local population against any leader or regime that does not bend to their will and their will is cheap disposable labour and private ownership of everything... ie everything sold to the highest bidder... suits rich people/big business. Does nothing for democracy though but then that has never been their concern.
Godric- Posts : 800
Points : 826
Join date : 2015-04-30
Location : Alba (Scotland)
- Post n°423
Re: Western propaganda
The West Accuses Russia of being masters of propaganda ... the truth is Russian media are rank amateurs compared to their western country parts all the news outlets use the same words and message so that it becomes the truth to the media and governments and then their is the sinister use of fear and music to highlight the menace of Russia .... it was the exact same propaganda tactics used by Goebbels
their is a old saying if you say it often enough it becomes the truth
their is a old saying if you say it often enough it becomes the truth
Khepesh- Posts : 1666
Points : 1735
Join date : 2015-04-22
Location : Ахетатон и Уасет
- Post n°424
Re: Western propaganda
Two articles on BBC Russian service about attempt on Plotnitsky. Both only use Ukrainian sources and only present Ukrainian point of view and their excuses about it being nothing to do with them. On the English pages the story is not even covered. Just an example that propaganda is not simply telling lies, as they can eventually be disproved, but more on how a story is presented, or on what stories are told and which are not. I think that the way BBC, who portray themselves as the best news organisation in the world, has covered Ukraine since late 2013 is their darkest hour. Well, since covereage of Syria from 2012, Egypt and Libya since 2011, Georgia in 2008, Iraq from 2003, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Afghanistan, anything to do with Russia and Serbia since dawn of time.....
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36998341
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36995343
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36998341
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36995343
Godric- Posts : 800
Points : 826
Join date : 2015-04-30
Location : Alba (Scotland)
- Post n°425
Re: Western propaganda
Khepesh wrote:Two articles on BBC Russian service about attempt on Plotnitsky. Both only use Ukrainian sources and only present Ukrainian point of view and their excuses about it being nothing to do with them. On the English pages the story is not even covered. Just an example that propaganda is not simply telling lies, as they can eventually be disproved, but more on how a story is presented, or on what stories are told and which are not. I think that the way BBC, who portray themselves as the best news organisation in the world, has covered Ukraine since late 2013 is their darkest hour. Well, since covereage of Syria from 2012, Egypt and Libya since 2011, Georgia in 2008, Iraq from 2003, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Afghanistan, anything to do with Russia and Serbia since dawn of time.....
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36998341
http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36995343
and the Scottish Independence Referendum ... they won't get away with the sh!t they pulled last time because we have their lies to throw back at them next time should be within the next year then bye bye UK and a massive headache for Nato