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    Post  Werewolf Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:35 pm

    Look at CNN youtube comment section of how CNN tries to convince the US population that russia is evil because it considers NATO a threat to itself.



    Over 90% aggree that NATO is a threat to humanity.
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    Post  max steel Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:39 pm

    US media agency BBG chief says more taxpayer money needed ‘to counter RT’




    BBG, the US government agency overseeing state-funded media directed at foreign audiences, needs more money to be on a par with countries such as Russia and China, its head says as radical reform looms in Congress.
    “There’s no question we’re badly underfunded and don’t have enough money to compete with our adversaries,” Jeff Shell, chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BGG), told the Washington Times.

    BGG oversees outlets such as Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Voice of America Radio Free Asia and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks, which try to appeal to foreign citizens with pro-American programming. According to Shell, the US is“spending a small fraction of what our adversaries are spending” - those being Russia's RT, China's CCTV and Qatar's Al Jazeera.

    "We have three great challenges right now," Shell told the Washington Times. "The challenge of this newly nationalistic Russian media, the challenge of China presented increasingly through cybertechnology and, finally, the challenge of violent Islamic extremists spreading their propaganda online.”

    American taxpayers fund BBG's operations to the tune of roughly $730 million a year. The Times says this is higher than Moscow spends on RT, estimated at roughly $307 million annually. Indeed, the Russian government allocated just over $300 million to the channel in the 2016 federal budget....



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    The Washington Times says the BBG is concerned about its engagement model, while RT is taking the lead in the “new media” with three billion views across its YouTube channels, which made it the world's top TV news network on the platform.

    "The reality is, if you're trying to reach a 12-year-old or other younger people, they're not listening to radio in their cars. They have an iPhone or other device, and that's what they're listening to," Shell told the newspaper.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:15 am

    Google Translate turns Russia into ‘Mordor’
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:37 pm

    LOL LOL LOL LOL Shocked  Cool  Cool

    https://www.rt.com/usa/328744-10-quotes-obama-sotu/

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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:58 pm

    Looks like US elites are running scared to authorize such trash talk. By asserting that the world looks
    to Washington and not Moscow or Beijing, Obomber is trying to talk away reality. The usual pattern.

    The world is sick and tired of the self-appointed hegemonist USA and its self-anointed exceptionalism.
    Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are total failures for US imperialism. Ukraine is basically a failed state after
    the US engineered coup and its economy is collapsing as people starve even in Kiev.

    The US has its collection of vassals but it is not winning any new hearts and minds around the world.
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    Post  max steel Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:09 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:LOL LOL LOL LOL

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    Alright which one of you jokers out there was asking America to "lead them" again?


    TPP? LOL twisting rules just to strangle China and signatory member citizens.
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    Post  andalusia Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:45 pm

    this is a good article about Putin and Obama.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-more-outraged-by-possible-murder-by-putin-than-definite-murder-by-obama/5503508
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    Post  Project Canada Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:22 pm

    lots of cheap bullcrap propaganda coming out from western msm lately Rolling Eyes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRxLkuzerT8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3glzaq3Tkw

    I made 2 google/youtube accounts to thumbs down the vids, maybe if you people have time give the two vids above a thumbs down too. im so sick of these garbage! especially cbc they seem to have a department that only specializes on anti-Russian propaganda. they dedicated a lot of documentaries to smear Putin/Russia, they talk about corruption, economic crises, etc but how about focusing more on the Economic crisis in Canada? why does problems in Russia gets to have more attention than whats happening inside the country?? people at Cbc are a bunch of idiots
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:38 pm

    Project Canada wrote:lots of cheap bullcrap propaganda coming out from western msm lately Rolling Eyes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRxLkuzerT8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3glzaq3Tkw

    I made 2 google/youtube accounts to thumbs down the vids, maybe if you people have time give the two vids above a thumbs down too. im so sick of these garbage! especially cbc they seem to have a department that only specializes on anti-Russian propaganda. they dedicated a lot of documentaries to smear Putin/Russia, they talk about corruption, economic crises, etc but how about focusing more on the Economic crisis in Canada? why does problems in Russia gets to have more attention than whats happening inside the country?? people at Cbc are a bunch of idiots
    The national one is a really piss poor attempt at propaganda.  So I made my comment there.  But CBC is Canadian gov controlled media, so dont be surprised.

    http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/russia-economy-ruble-workers-protest-1.3418176#commentwrapper

    My comments should be at the bottom.
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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:04 am

    More inane NATO propaganda:

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    http://russia-insider.com/en/fancy-trip-russia-better-not-its-11th-most-dangerous-country-world/ri12531

    (Note that Crimea is drawn as part of Ukraine and has the same shading as Ukraine Laughing)
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:29 am

    What does that Peace Index" measure and using what methodology?
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:20 pm

    Perception in the public like most of those "indexes".

    Sure if you propagate 24/7 Göbbels style lies about countries they will believe it. Like North Korea being a bigger threat to the world than US, NATO and their proxy terrorist groups and the western invention of Demoncrazy.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:35 pm

    kvs wrote:More inane NATO propaganda:

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    http://russia-insider.com/en/fancy-trip-russia-better-not-its-11th-most-dangerous-country-world/ri12531

    (Note that Crimea is drawn as part of Ukraine and has the same shading as Ukraine Laughing)

    It's similar to those 'corruption indexes' the same indexes that ignore open weapons trafficking from Western govt's in the Libyan and Syrian war theaters.

    ...In other news, something I found on zerohedge relating to U.S. govt. corruption...I was dying in tears when I read this:  lol1  


    'Senior SEC employees spent up to 8 hours a day surfing porn sites instead of cracking down on financial crimes'

    How Corrupt Is the American Government?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:41 pm

    Polish TV producer fired after apologizing to Russian minister over bad-tempered WW2 interview
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    Post  Werewolf Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:56 pm

    Ohh the polish stronkkk crew in the comments still portrays as being the victim and did nothing wrong. Poland got what it deserved after invading german and russian territories and annexing them on behalf of france and england. Shouldn't have signed a non aggression pact with germany before Molotov-Ribbontrop then it wouldn't be such a farce the entire existence of poland being the victim.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:11 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/331098-us-russia-colliers-crimea/

    And this is why the west wont ever win.  When all they have are illiterate and incompetent people being in high positions even in an embassy.

    The Amerifats should be embarrassed in themselves.
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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:53 pm

    sepheronx wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/331098-us-russia-colliers-crimea/

    And this is why the west wont ever win.  When all they have are illiterate and incompetent people being in high positions even in an embassy.

    The Amerifats should be embarrassed in themselves.

    Note how they systematically ignore the people of Crimea. In 1954 over 67% of them were ethnic Russian and they are still a majority today.
    And that has nothing to do with any Holodmor hoax and Russian squatters. Ukrainians were not residents of Crimea until after Russia took it over from
    the Turkey aligned Tatars who routinely staged slave raids into Ukraine. Ukrs should be thanking Russia instead of making up history
    that never existed.

    Kosovo was all about Albanians. Crimea is all about some BS territorial integrity that was created in 1991 when NATO and others
    recognized the annexation of Crimea by Ukraine. That the historical heartland of Serbia was Kosovo and Serbia's territorial integrity was of no
    concern to the US and NATO. Clearly there are no rules in international politics. To hear some of these turds
    bleat about "international law" is truly tiresome.

    Anyway, next time these bleaters start again, someone should remind them of the ICJ ruling on secession.
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    Post  max steel Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:47 pm

    Fascinating article, both for the concrete details and fates, and for capturing the dynamics of being black in Russia. Really dispels this myth, perpetuated by many emigres and other myopic observers of Russia, that Russians are always "racist" or always "antisemitic." Or always loving and embracing --as others would claim. By geography, history, and culture - -yes, Russians don't pay that much attention to superficial differences, so important to the western mind, but circumstance can turn anyone into devil or angel.Once again hats off to LAT

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    Post  Guest Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:43 pm

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    Well, Western propaganda is working you know. Even in countries that you might consider as very friendly towards Russia, you have shitloads of people that eat Western propaganda for breakfast and blindly belive in it. I have friends that would literally give own child for a chance to go and work in the US or UK.

    And here you have Hitler vs Stalin pool and results are more than interesting.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:55 pm

    The west is lost, that is no place where i want to raise my children.
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    Post  Guest Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:01 pm

    Werewolf wrote:The west is lost, that is no place where i want to raise my children.

    I could deal with places like Australia or Canada, not sure i would have stomach for US, UK, Netherlands or Germany.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:23 pm

    kvs wrote:
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    magnumcromagnon wrote:A paper written by the Greco-British journalist Marcus Papadopoulos, detailing the rampant Russophobia in the Western world:

    RUSSOPHOBIA: AN INGRAINED AND UNOFFICIAL POLICY OF THE WEST

    Western elites are high on their own hubris.   This never ending hate campaign against Russia will not make Russia go away.
    The 1917 situation is not going to repeat itself since there is "unstable basic state" which can be disrupted with some agitation
    and propaganda.  These western elites also forget that there is not a lot of love for the west by most of the people on this
    planet since they have been on the receiving end of western colonialist aggression for centuries.  

    ...You'll love this (I would like to hear sepheronx and Werewolf's opinon on this as well)...My God, if there was even more reason for Russia to leave PACE, now it's promoting Russian Liberast-holes like Kasyanov (the West's go-to Liberast-hole), a guy with a monumental '2%'  Rolling Eyes  support of the total Russian population:

    PACE and Kasyanov

    Yes, Russia should have left PACE a long time ago.  All it ever got at PACE was blood libel defamation and open support for sedition inside Russia.
    Misha 2% refers to his bribe rate.  I doubt he has even 1% of support.  

    All these liberast clowns in Russia should just move to NATO, their promised land.  

    Surprise, surprise, Kasyanov's road trip to meet PACE representatives was indeed a cover for him to meet with NATO representatives in the blanket of darkness. A hidden camera tracking Kasyanov, catches him red-handed cavorting and in cahoots with NATO reps in Strasbourg, France. Video courtesy of Kadyrov:

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:03 pm

    This traitor turd dares to accuse Kadyrov of "wrong doing". I say Russia needs to grow a pair of balls and start applying the law
    to these freaks. Letting Kasyanov get away with open sedition and treachery to his country (note, not the government) is just
    too much. If Lavrov is serious about there being no more business as usual with the USA and NATO, then it is time to put the
    money where the mouth is.
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    Post  max steel Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:08 pm

    Trolling or accepting the obvious ? Nothing but scaremongering by a whipped up media. I wrote a post somewhere on this forum expressing how Russia can blockade Baltics.

    Russia 'would win a war against Europe and America'


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:30 pm

    max steel wrote:Trolling or accepting the obvious ? Nothing but scaremongering by a whipped up media. I wrote a post somewhere on this forum expressing how Russia can blockade Baltics.

    Russia 'would win a war against Europe and America'



    Not trolling, but Military region of Kaliningrad and Belarussian border being only 190 km away from another through Lithuania. With a three directional attack you start by Pskov (two divisions) and Klg (two others) with about 3/4 divisions and can end up slicing the Baltics within 24 hours.

    Now before you kids start accusing me of stuff, I was, ironically, in Latvia in November. I did, ironically again, the whole trip Riga, Dauvgapils, Kaunas (for leisure). It's horrific. You could with about 40K troops get the deal done in 12 hours and literally get the most difficult part  of the Baltic Republics locked and cooking. The worst answer on southern troops could be by the Polish Northern military command, which is as fearsome as Ukraine on a rainy day. Also, the guys at the Lithuanian border looked at me pretty hard. One even provoked me in Russian (asking if the trip had been nice in Riga in what I could guess perfect Russian). I answered in perfectly broken English. "I don't speak Lithuanian".
    It's a good thing that I travel to Russia with my Albanian passport, not the Belgian one.

    So no it's not trolling, it's actually fear mongering. Or Americans having topography 101...Can't really say.


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