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    2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:12 pm


    I hope we get official English translation of this soon
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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:59 pm

    The fraud is already being sent to the memory hole. Nobody is even flashing the absurd 4 am flip in votes from Trump to
    Biden in Wisconsin and elsewhere:

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    All eyes are on "crackdowns" and "mass arrests" of "mass protests by Navalny supporters". I am sure that any vote in Russia
    will have hordes of analysts (including Karlin) feeding us the horseshit that the shape of the Gaussian tail is wrong and is
    "evidence of vote injection". Because in Russia they rig elections at the 0.1% level while in the beacon of democracy USA
    they just flip the totals at 4 am.

    For the lemming sheep who fail to grasp the nuance, election fraud is there when elites do not want to surrender their
    power. Putin and United Russia have real support because they have been delivering while their opponents are literally
    sniveling 5th column trash that are too busy bad mouthing Russians as "bydlo". Navalny's defamation of a war veteran
    for daring to have a political opinion other than his demonstrates this perfectly. The PC rotted west wants its "SJW"
    stooge Navalny to cancel Russians.

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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:19 pm

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/aim-of-impeachment-was-to-paint-all-trump-voters-as-criminals-rep-mike-johnson_3697344.html
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/aim-impeachment-was-paint-all-trump-voters-criminals-rep-mike-johnson

    Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.) says Democrats used the impeachment of former President Donald Trump as a tool to paint all of his supporters with the brush of Capitol breach-related criminality.

    Johnson told Breitbart News in an interview on Feb. 14 that the ultimate aim of impeaching Trump a second time was to associate the 75 million Americans who voted for him with those individuals who on Jan. 6 broke the law.

    “They really wanted to use impeachment as a vehicle because they wanted to equate all those tens of millions of Trump’s voters and all of his supporters and everybody who came to the rally, they wanted to equate all of those people with the couple hundred criminals who came in and ransacked the Capitol,” Johnson told the outlet.

    So the so-called US left (which has the backing of the corporations, the mass media and the deep state) wants to deplatform more than
    half the registered voters of the USA.   That must be a world first.

    Also, the whole January 6th "Reichstag fire" BS is too much to take.   Nothing happened in that "violence" that gives the Democraps and
    their backers any justification for all the totalitarian measures they are trying to push.   In fact, it was the demonstrators who were
    attacked and killed by the cops.   So there was state brutality against those protestors.   We have Navalny's willful lawbreakers being
    treated as saints, but people who responded to the brazen electoral fraud are demonized and face 20 year jail terms.   This is another
    test of the value of the west's anti-Russian hate propaganda.    "Mass arrests" where the perps are slapped on the wrist and let go
    after processing is no sort of "crack down".

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    Post  Kiko Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:30 pm

    Attempted First Amendment, by Kirill Benediktov for RT in Russian.
    15 February 2021

    Donald Trump's second impeachment failed as ignominiously as the first. Trump went down in history as a president who was twice impeached - and both times was acquitted by a Senate court. The first time this happened a year ago, on February 5, 2020, Trump was acquitted of both charges concocted by Democrats in the House of Representatives - abuse of power and obstruction of a congressional investigation. Then he was acquitted by a majority of votes: 52 votes against 48 - under the first article and 53 votes against 47 - under the second.

    This time everything turned out to be more dramatic.

    First, Trump was no longer president. Therefore, one of the main questions facing the senators was: "Is it possible at all to impeach a person who no longer occupies a state post?"

    Many lawyers considered this to be unconstitutional. But there were also those who argued that there was a precedent of this kind, which means that the Senate, which is sensitive to traditions and customs, should recognize as permissible "retroactive impeachment."

    Democratic lawyers called the trial of the "minister of war" (as the head of the Ministry of Defense was then called) in the administration of Ulysses Grant by William Worth Belknap, who had stained himself with corruption "a precedent". Sensing that the case smelled of impeachment, Belknap resigned from his post, but the Senate still voted that the former minister, as a private person, could not be exempted from court. Belknap was ultimately acquitted because his opponents failed to achieve the required two-thirds majority on any of the five counts.

    Anglo-Saxon law is known to be based on precedent. Therefore, the fact that Trump's second impeachment does not explicitly violate the US Constitution is somehow still possible to agree. But here's the rest ...

    Senate impeachment hearings follow the rules established many years ago. It has its own prosecutors (they are called "impeachment managers"), in the role of which were the Democrats from the House of Representatives, there are their own lawyers (these were real lawyers hired by Trump, and hired almost at the last moment, since part of the legal team of the ex-president refused to defend him in the Senate a week before the impeachment began), there is also a presiding judge. This should be the head of the Supreme Court, but John Roberts, the President of the US Armed Forces, refused to prosecute Trump, since he was no longer president. And in the end, the chairman was also Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy - the oldest Democratic of the current Congress (he is even older than Biden - he will soon turn 81).

    The procedure itself is identical to the standard litigation: the parties present their arguments, witnesses are summoned to the court, evidence and evidence are examined, and then a vote takes place in which the senators act as a regular jury. The difference lies in the fact that if the jury must unanimously decide to pass a sentence on especially grave crimes, then the senators to convict the president had to vote for his guilt by two-thirds of the composition of the upper chamber. That is, 67 votes were required to convict Trump.
    At the time of the first impeachment, the Republicans had a majority in the Senate. After the re-election in Georgia, a precarious balance was established in the upper house (50-50), and given the vice-president's vote, equal to the senator's, the Democrats had a simple majority. But in order to condemn Trump, Democrats had to win the votes of 17 defectors from the camp of "elephants."

    A year ago, the only Republican who dared to speak out in favor of impeachment of Trump was Mitt Romney, Obama's former unlucky rival in the 2012 election.

    Now the situation was different: those senators who disliked or even hated Trump could no longer be afraid of the anger of the outgoing president. Therefore, this time there were more of them - as many as seven people. Here are their names: Richard Barr, Bill Cassidy, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sass, Pat Toomey. The betrayal of some was expected (Romney, Murkowski, Collins), others - such as Richard Barr, who repeatedly emphasized his closeness to Trump while he was president - came as an unpleasant surprise. One way or another, seven people were not enough to condemn the former head of state. As one of the Russian notable liberals wrote with obvious regret, “ten votes were not enough”.

    Donald Trump retained the right to run for top government positions, which the Democrats feared most of all: now, in 2022, he can become, for example, a senator, and in 2024 he can again take part in the presidential race - with unpredictable consequences.

    However, the historic significance of the Trump trial is far more than a simple excuse for America's brightest president in half a century.

    In defending Trump, his lawyers defended primarily the United States Constitution - a document that was once sacred to American politicians, regardless of their party affiliation. During the hearings on Trump's second impeachment, it became clear that the Democrats no longer intend to be guided by either the spirit or the letter of the Constitution, if those prevent them from dealing with their sworn enemy.

    Leading "impeachment manager" Jamie Raskin has repeatedly stated that since Trump's trial was not a "criminal trial," the right to due process did not apply to him. This meant that, according to the Democrats, Trump had no right to call defense witnesses and did not have to justify himself at all, but could only humbly listen to accusations and repent of his crimes.

    Crimes that never really happened! After all, the Democrats all the first three days of the trial did nothing but accuse Trump of “inciting mutiny,” that is, the storming of the Capitol on January 6. Speaking to his supporters at a rally in Washington on January 6, Trump said literally the following: “We are fighting with all our might. And if we do not fight for life and death, we will lose the country. " And it was in these words that the "impeachment managers" saw the notorious incitement to rebellion. But at the same time, none of the nearly 200 criminal cases initiated by the US Department of Justice against the participants in the storming of the Capitol contain the wording “participation in the mutiny”.

    Basically, this is a banal "hooligan": "deliberate entry into a building with a special regime of restrictions", "disobedience to the police", "damage to federal property", "violation of public order" and "improper actions in conditions of civil unrest." The only charge of a more serious plan is "creating obstacles to the orderly activities of Congress and other authorities." But this is far from a mutiny. And if there was no rebellion, then why should the president be tried?

    In an effort to crack down on Trump he hated, Democrats have denied him fundamental rights.

    Raskin, for example, argued that Trump is not subject to ... the First Amendment to the US Constitution. As you know, it guarantees citizens freedom of speech - and it is this freedom that democratic "impeachment managers" tried to deny Trump. They did not consider the fact that the ex-president had his Twitter account blocked before the expiration of his term of office as a violation of freedom of speech. But Trump's use of the word fight was declared his main crime.

    But Trump's lawyers have brilliantly proved that the very same term fight was used by the Democrats themselves without any hesitation when it came to the BLM riots in the summer of 2020, when outrageous leftist crowds took over the streets of Minneapolis, New York, Seattle, Washington and other cities in America. ... During the riots in Washington, the crowd, incited by the leaders of BLM and antifa, attacked the police and almost broke into the White House - then the secret service evacuated Trump and his loved ones to the bunker, and The New York Times and other liberal media made fun of the president: they say , he is afraid of his own people! Trump's lawyers used a spectacular trick - they showed senators footage of the BLM pogroms, interspersed with speeches by democratic politicians and journalists encouraging the riots.

    They accused President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris of supporting the chaos and failing to protect the police. They recalled that Speaker Nancy Pelosi called federal law enforcement officers "storm troopers" - read, Nazis. They presented the Senate with testimonies of the victims of the Great Race War that rocked America, stating that millions of Americans suffered from it - not only those who were killed in riots or lost property, but also those who still live in fear of losing their lives and jobs. or, at best, reputations and social media accounts if they are suspected of questioning the dominant leftist dogma. For the first time since the death of George Floyd in May 2020, Trump's lawyers have held Democrats publicly accountable for their role in inciting riots and accompanying panic. If Trump was guilty of "incitement," said Michael van der Veen, head of the former president's lawyers, then Democrats are far more to blame.

    If the Senate voted to condemn Trump, it would be a huge victory for the “cancel culture,” the left's most potent weapon. While in theory it assumes nothing more than “ending support” for public figures or companies after they have done something wrong in front of society, in practice it is a form of organized social bullying. At the dawn of Trump's presidency, cancel culture dealt with Allen Armentraut, the defender of the monument to General Lee in Charlottesville. He was kicked out of college, he could not get a job, and when conservative Americans organized a fundraiser in his support, the site on which this gathering took place was quickly closed. But Armentraut's "crime" was only that he dared to stand in the way of the vandals who were raging from impunity,

    Trump's acquittal was the defeat of cancel culture and the unbelievable left-wing camarilla in Congress. Alas, not as unambiguous as we would like.

    “A single acquittal doesn’t change the“ culture of revocation, ”Breitbart News editor-in-chief Joel Pollack rightly observes. - The majority of the senators still voted for Ruskin, although they did not get the required two-thirds (votes - KB ). Just out of respect for the First Amendment, the vote had to be 100: 0 for acquittal. Yet what Trump's lawyers have shown America will not be easy to hide and forget. A “culture of abolition” violates the spirit and sometimes the letter of the First Amendment. It's immoral and not American."

    And yet, the First Amendment defeated the “culture of abolition”. 43 Republican senators defended their ex-president - and more importantly, the US Constitution. And this is perhaps an even more important outcome of the failed impeachment than Donald Trump's acquittal.

    https://russian.rt.com/opinion/832592-benediktov-tramp-impichment-ssha

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:35 pm

    One of the side effects of Biden's win will be a dramatic increase in the production of US$.

    The Fed alone needs $1.4 trillion for committed Government expenditure in the next 12 months. On top of that the Biden administration is about to pass a $1.9 trillion stimulus plan, the second largest injection of federal cash in US history. The only larger cash dump was the $3 trillion at the beginning of the pandemic last year. That's just for starters, the new administration wants to spend $2 trillion on climate change and $1.5 trillion on manufacturing and childcare.

    These are staggering amounts of money. Never before in history has the US printed this much money. Add it all up and the U.S. will create out of thin air an amount of money greater than the GDP of Japan, the third largest economy in the world.

    Whilst it might not be immediate, all of this is going to unleash an inflationary storm.

    But the US economy is not a closed, purely domestic economy. A side and beneficial effect of dollar expansion is that it will tax the tributaries of the Empire as much as possible, basically until the pips squeak.

    By the look of it around $500 billion to consumers who will purchase mostly foreign goods, with $trillions to corporations which will "invest" overseas and purchase foreign goods.

    Dollar inflation only reduces the worth of US dollar-denominated debts and yet increases the foreign demand for dollars to conduct international trade. So long as the US military can enforce the financial SWIFT "petrodollar" transaction system, the tribute can be exacted.

    In the days of not having a gold backed currency (since 1971) the power of having the World's reserve currency is that it gives the holder the ability to exchange fiat paper money (at negligible cost) for actual goods, resources, services from its vassals and other, usually unwilling, participants. It's a totally brilliant extortion racket. Of course those first in line to get those fiat dollars then get to increase their property and power whether domestic or foreign.

    But, just as the increased use of sanctions is two edged, encouraging import substitution, so this vast increase will almost certainly break the system. At exactly the same time as, due to the collapse in shale production, the US has to significantly increase its oil imports, that it had been used to effectively getting for free with just created fiat $.

    Without doubt the Russians and Chinese have foreseen this future and is a good reason for both to be 'arming up'. I expect significant transfers (of the 'old' gear perhaps) to their allies around the World in the face of significant US meddling. Venezuela is a case in point, very vulnerable to that US need for oil.

    Biden's (as long as he lasts) administration is lighting a blue touch paper that it has no idea where it might lead.

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    Post  kvs Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:31 pm

    Offloading the inflationary pressure onto the rest of the plant is not unbounded. Print enough US pesos and the world will
    start treating them as Pancho Villa's pieces of paper.

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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:42 pm

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1361987985932230662

    Court documents have revealed that both CNN and NBC paid leftist rioter John Sullivan $35,000
    a piece for footage he shot during the storming of the Capitol building on January 6th.

    Pure theater. The Capitol Hill "insurrection" is indeed the US version of the Reichstag fire.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:02 am

    Some people say if you want to run for president you have to grow hair on your chest.......Joe Biden settled for growing hair on his legs.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:20 pm

    Sky News Australia is first to break ranks on Biden's dementia

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:57 pm

    CNN asked Biden if he has dementia. He answered that he couldn´t remember. Laughing
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:47 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-york-times-retracts-sicknick-story

    In a quiet but stunning correction, the New York Times backed away from its original report that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick was killed by a Trump supporter wielding a fire extinguisher during the January 6 melee at the Capitol building. Shortly after American Greatness published my column Friday that showed how the Times gradually was backpedaling on its January 8 bombshell, the paper posted this caveat:

    UPDATE: New information has emerged regarding the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick that questions the initial cause of his death provided by officials close to the Capitol Police.

    The paper continued to revise its story within the body of the original January 8 story: “Law enforcement officials initially said Mr. Sicknick was struck with a fire extinguisher, but weeks later, police sources and investigators were at odds over whether he was hit. Medical experts have said he did not die of blunt force trauma, according to one law enforcement official.”

    So the blood libel US fake stream media concocted a story about some cop being killed by "insurrectionists" when no such event happened.
    This was clearly a propaganda effort to offset the "bad optics" of the murder of a protestor by the Capitol Hill cops.

    This non-story is likely why the Democraps flipped on calling witnesses in Trump's kangaroo show trial impeachment.

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:17 pm

    I´ve seen a report that he twittered with his brother after the "event" was over. He got medical issues after being hit twice by pepper spray or tear gas.

    There was a public viewing for the guy in the capitol. A center piece of the whole propaganda effort. The story will be buried 30 feet deep by CNN and co.
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    Post  Kiko Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:41 pm

    Survey results in the USA: Trump's rating among GOP supporters continues to grow
    Today, 19: 27

    US Senator Mitt Romney from Utah drew attention to the results of public opinion polls in the United States. We are talking about polls that concern the possible political future of Donald Trump. Recall that Trump lost the election to Biden, and the Democrats were going to deprive him of the opportunity to run in the next election. For this, the impeachment procedure was launched twice. But both times the Democratic Party of the United States in this regard was expecting a fiasco.

    Mitt Romney said polls in the United States show the following: if Trump declares his readiness to run for president, then he will win the so-called nomination from the Republican Party.

    Recall that according to the current system in the United States, the main parties (and there are two of them) must hold elections from among their own candidates, who will eventually compete with each other.

    According to Senator Romney, Republican voters today give preference to Trump, and Trump's rating among supporters of the Republican Party in the United States continues to grow.

    https://en.topwar.ru/180292-itogi-oprosov-v-ssha-rejting-trampa-v-srede-storonnikov-respublikanskoj-partii-prodolzhaet-rasti.html

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:29 am

    Trump did not lose the election he got 74 million real votes while Biden got a good 15+ million ballot stuffing mail in fakes
    that gave him an absurd 81 million votes.  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election

    Obama got 66 million votes in 2012 and Romney got 61 million.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election

    Trump supposedly got only 63 million votes in 2016 and Killary got 66 million.

    Why all of the sudden in 2020 do we have Democraps get 15 million more votes than their previous two presidential rounds?
    Considering that Trump actually delivered for the US middle and lower income classes in terms of jobs (hence the lowest black
    unemployment ever) it makes sense for him to gain votes and for the Democraps to lose votes to him.   It is a quasi-zero
    sum game when it comes to voting.   Extra voter turn out is not for just one party.  

    So Trump would have to have gotten less than 50 million votes for Biden to get over 80 million.   Since Trump increased
    to over 70 million, that requires Biden to have gone down to less than 60 million.   Dropping from 66 million to under 60
    million is vastly more likely than for an increase from 66 million to 81 million.  

    1) Biden is senile and a pedophile.   He is not charismatic and his crowd turnouts were pathetic compared to those of Trump
    during the 2020 campaign.

    2) The Democraps discredited themselves with the Russiagate hoax and the insane partisan propaganda of CNN and the rest
    of the fake stream media.  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

    The turnout in 2020 is a clear anomaly.  It would have been plausible if it was 60% but 66.7% is a clear outlier.
    (The number is also suspiciously close to 2/3).    There is a ballot excess of about 15 million and it seems to have
    gone all to Biden.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:59 am

    Bidet nearly had a international incident by striking Syria with only 5 minute warning to Ru MOD. His first term will be hairy, like his legs that he lets small children caress.
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    The memes are already rolling in.

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    Post  LMFS Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:55 am

    We must be coming to the end of time, right? Can we really fall much lower?? At least I am laughing my ass out with that crap posted above lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:18 pm

    LMFS wrote:We must be coming to the end of time, right? Can we really fall much lower?? At least I am laughing my ass out with that crap posted above lol1 lol1 lol1

    Oh, yea, this can get much worst.
    Wait till, children sex change becomes much more popular, and Teens start voting.
    Parents no longer having a say.

    Soon your gonna see BDSM lessons and Demonstrations in school for Pre-teen and younger.
    Unisex bathroom become mandatory.

    And eventually Unisex prisons become standard, any woman that complains is a TURF and automatically go's to jail. Wink

    The U.S army must have pegging resistance or acceptance training.

    Polygamy returns, but only for women (Polyandry) with multiple "male" partners, so when she divorces them, she gets all the Alimony.

    Worst case scenario, would be aborted..... you know what, i better not.

    Anyway, the next big thing will be the Demonization, persecution and justification to kill the infidels of the progressive faith, kill all who oppose the faith.
    A Progressive Jihad to wipe out the new Jews, be these conservatives or centrists.

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:52 pm

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    I put this here, because somehow it is connected to the election.

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:37 pm

    Ah yes, well about those detention facilities..

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    Now that's some mental gymnastics!

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:06 am

    The real problem is retards who listen to this excrement and think that there is some sort of argument there.

    If your ruler is zero length, then everything is infinitely long. This is how many people think. They have no
    concept of fixed goalposts and objective metrics. It is all subjectivist delusion for them.



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    Post  Godric Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:45 pm

    Godric wrote:
    Kiko wrote:Dem-entia at its best!

    creepy Joe thinks he is going to follow on from his previous stint in the whitehouse under O'Bampot of more wars ramping up military pressure in Iraq and Syria and he thinks he can pressure the EU to cancel the new China deal and threaten Germany with more sanctions over Nordstream 2 .... western Europe can't be pissed with America  and will tell him as much if he tries to go down that avenue  

    it was nail on the head his first target to bomb was Syria even though it was "Iraqis/Iranians" he was targeting .... a leopard doesn't change it's spots he is a out and out war monger
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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:22 am

    Trump is gone... but surprise surprise... more of the same...

    Just as well they have democracy because they seem to vote for peace each time and only get war.

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    Post  kvs Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:08 am

    Anyone with a clue would take Trump over Biden, Hillary and the rest of the Democraps any day. It does not matter how bad
    he was, he was actually walking the talk and not talking the walk. The first president of the US in decades not to instigate
    wars and he refused to be baited by the phony White Helmet chemical attack theater. That is why they stopped staging them.
    Expect the White Helmets to crank into high gear again to give Biden and his handlers the pretexts they want.

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