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    Post  GarryB Thu May 06, 2021 5:04 am

    KVS mentions the US is turning into a one party system so SS arrives and talks about the Soviet Union... which is off topic in this thread...

    Amusing after I was accused on another thread of always bringing up the US don't you think and SS telling them you get used to it?

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    Post  kvs Thu May 06, 2021 5:30 am

    GarryB wrote:KVS mentions the US is turning into a one party system so SS arrives and talks about the Soviet Union... which is off topic in this thread...

    Amusing after I was accused on another thread of always bringing up the US don't you think and SS telling them you get used to it?


    The US is the clown show that gives itself the right to meddle in every country on the planet to "defend its national interests".
    No other country has the right to have national interests by US logic. US bumpkins who are always being scarecrowed by foreign
    "existential threats" and who don't care enough to know anything about the world outside US borders, always talk about Russia
    and the USSR as if nothing changed in 1990. I suppose Germany and the Nazi Reich are still all the same thing.

    US foreign meddling and wars are not some pathology of transient domestic politics like in the case of Russia and Germany. The US
    exceptionalism (e.g. manifest destiny) is a long standing feature which amounts to its identity. This is why it is spazzing so hard
    now when its influence is waning. The current situation is unlike anything in the last 300 years. The former developing world is
    now making up a critical mass of the world's GDP and US dick waving and threats are some sort of stupid joke. Such as its
    gunboat diplomacy fails in the Black Sea and Vladivostok. Trump offered America a choice to develop as a nation state and not
    as a globalist project where Americans are thrown under the bus for the 0.1% to get more filthy lucre. But that is too much
    compromise for the elites of exceptionalistan and they will go down with their imperial ship.

    SS is just a typical useful idiot who thinks what is good for the 0.1% is good for him. A good little regime bootlick he is.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 06, 2021 7:20 am

    GarryB wrote:KVS mentions the US is turning into a one party system so SS arrives and talks about the Soviet Union... which is off topic in this thread...

    Amusing after I was accused on another thread of always bringing up the US don't you think and SS telling them you get used to it?


    The difference is I didn't bring up the USSR, KVS did, I just responded to an absurd statement that was already here prior.

    You on the other hand bring up the US when it has nothing to do with the topic.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 06, 2021 4:31 pm

    Logical move. Good to show the World how to behave, based on the pinnacle Rules Based Society.  Laughing

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    The bill now goes to #Trump #MAGA Republican Gov. Henry McMaster @henrymcmaster, who has said he'll sign it
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu May 06, 2021 4:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Logical move. Good to show the World how to behave, based on the pinnacle Rules Based Society.  Laughing

    Saad Abedine

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    The South Carolina House has voted to add the firing squad to the state's execution methods amid a lack of lethal-injection drugs.

    The bill now goes to #Trump #MAGA Republican Gov. Henry McMaster @henrymcmaster, who has said he'll sign it
    https://apnews.com/article/south-

    I missed good old fashioned firing squads
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    Post  nomadski Thu May 06, 2021 7:25 pm

    Socialism transient ? No. Comparable to Fascism ? No. Forgotten by history  and Russia ? No. The impact of socialism went further than Russia. How many countries now have a socialist  political party ? Even America now has a working class. Until recently America had only a middle class ! And now Berni says openly he is socialist. Long gone are the communist witch hunts. And even now Russia has a communist party. It survived the collapse of Soviets. But will humanity  ( Americans included) survive long enough to evolve ? Americans are busy shooting each other. Makes little difference if legal or illegal.
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    Post  kvs Thu May 06, 2021 8:15 pm

    nomadski wrote:Socialism transient ? No. Comparable to Fascism ? No. Forgotten by history  and Russia ? No. The impact of socialism went further than Russia. How many countries now have a socialist  political party ? Even America now has a working class. Until recently America had only a middle class ! And now Berni says openly he is socialist. Long gone are the communist witch hunts. And even now Russia has a communist party. It survived the collapse of Soviets. But will humanity  ( Americans included) survive long enough to evolve ? Americans are busy shooting each other. Makes little difference if legal or illegal.

    Authoritarian socialism/communism was a transient historical feature in Russia's history. People should stop projecting their desires
    on Russia.

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    Post  kvs Thu May 06, 2021 10:17 pm



    What an assclown judicial system. No control over 4 am ballot stuffing in the presidential election, but some Draconian
    sentence for an irrelevant teenage incident. I guess the real US elections are the high school home coming queen elections.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am

    Well, she hacked into state systems to change votes, which carries a very heavy price it wasn't like there were paper ballots, she electronically changed them.

    The school is run by the state therefore it falls under their systems.

    That said, I do think 16 years a 1st-time offense and something so minor is a bit much.

    but it is highly unlikely even if convicted she will get 16 years, That might be the maximum sentence allowed but she won't get the max with this being her first conviction. The judge will go easy on her and laws will not permit a 15 year sentenced to be applied to a first timer

    So that 16yr number is complete horse shit, just some YouTubers trying to blow it up for views, She might get a few years at best in a low security prison but even then I highly doubt she will see jail time.

    She hacked prom queen votes, sure but it's a higher schooler and without a prior record in the end.

    Also learn English KVS she wasn't "sentenced" to 16 years, she needs to have her trial and if convicted (which she will be the evidence is there) she will then have to go to a sentencing hearing where the judge will weigh various factors and give her a sentence.

    The sentence in the US is never given after a guilty verdict, that's two separate matters. The judge also can rule however they want in the hearing, basically, he can tell the prosecution to take that 16 years and shove it.
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    Post  GarryB Fri May 07, 2021 2:42 pm

    You on the other hand bring up the US when it has nothing to do with the topic.

    The US is a hyperpower and the most important country on the planet... the US cannot be offtopic in any section and in any thread... Twisted Evil
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    Post  kvs Fri May 07, 2021 3:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    You on the other hand bring up the US when it has nothing to do with the topic.

    The US is a hyperpower and the most important country on the planet... the US cannot be offtopic in any section and in any thread...  Twisted Evil

    The presence of this idiot chauvinist troll from yanquistan, SS, makes the US an automatic topic for discussion.   We have
    some kommissar of yanqui propaganda narratives trying to shove his BS down our throats, but as is typical for hypocrites like
    himself, we cannot raise glaring problems that afflict his precious utopia.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri May 07, 2021 5:15 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    You on the other hand bring up the US when it has nothing to do with the topic.

    The US is a hyperpower and the most important country on the planet... the US cannot be offtopic in any section and in any thread...  Twisted Evil

    I am glad you finally came to grips and accepted your American overlords into your heart Very Happy

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri May 07, 2021 5:16 pm

    kvs wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    You on the other hand bring up the US when it has nothing to do with the topic.

    The US is a hyperpower and the most important country on the planet... the US cannot be offtopic in any section and in any thread...  Twisted Evil

    The presence of this idiot chauvinist troll from yanquistan, SS, makes the US an automatic topic for discussion.   We have
    some kommissar of yanqui propaganda narratives trying to shove his BS down our throats, but as is typical for hypocrites like
    himself, we cannot raise glaring problems that afflict his precious utopia.

    Hardly you just wanna bitch about the US, Just be honest about it man.
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    Post  kvs Sat May 08, 2021 12:24 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-jersey-police-officer-fired-calling-blm-protesters-terrorists

    In America, the land of self-ascribed "freedom of expression", you cannot call terrorists as terrorists. Instead of have to take the knee
    and hope they don't kill you.

    And these worms dare lecture Russia about anything.

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    Post  GarryB Sat May 08, 2021 8:28 am

    Hardly you just wanna bitch about the US, Just be honest about it man.

    Did you not get the memo... bitch and man are sexist misogynist terms... you must go to realignment camp for 6 months and learn to apologise for being so white and so obviously male...

    I am glad you finally came to grips and accepted your American overlords into your heart

    No acceptance at all... it is important to identify the problem/enemy... as an American they are your enemy too...

    No sarcasm at all...
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    Post  kvs Mon May 10, 2021 10:44 pm



    The best analysis of the recent hate crimes by blacks against Asians in the USA you will hear.

    Many US blacks are sore losers who never try in school and blame whitey for their crotch itch. No
    whitey is holding down a gangsta-loving black thug in the 'hood. The thug is 100% responsible for
    his own problems. He does not even want to get a job at a black run and staffed company. He
    just wants to sell crack or rob a convenience store. The loser dreams of easy living. In fact, the
    Asians demonstrate that they can succeed in the 'hood where blacks fail. The losers resort to the
    age old loser spasm of hating on those that don't wallow in loserness.

    And don't even try to accuse me of being racist. I know this behaviour pattern from my own people,
    the Slavs.





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    Post  GarryB Tue May 11, 2021 1:25 am

    I am glad you finally came to grips and accepted your American overlords into your heart

    America is so focused on being the leader of the world it looks outside itself for all its problems and those problems not being solved...

    From outside of the US it is not a difficult problem at all... just like a fat persons problem is often in your face, or that problem gambler who owes all his friends money and has lost their job but still think if they can only get a few dollars they can win it all back... maybe sell a kidney or something...

    From the outside the problems are obvious and while the solutions are not easy they are pretty clear.... but easy is just doing what you are doing... fat people keep eating because while it makes their condition worse at least they feel good and get to eat the food they like, for the gambler all they need is a high stakes game and just win it all back in one go.

    America doesn't want to improve or to fix things... they are perfect... it is the rest of the world who has to forget everything they learned about morality and ethics... life is a game and you play to win... the one with too much money wins... nobody has won yet... but some are getting close. And screw everyone else...

    You can see the change in the TV shows... eight is enough, family ties, the cosby show... now family guy and south park and the kardashians....
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    Post  calripson Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:18 pm

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/graham-meets-with-netanyahu-in-jerusalem/ar-AAKzKOB?li=BBnbcA1&fullscreen=true#image=1
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:26 am

    nomadski wrote:Socialism transient ? No. Comparable to Fascism ? No. Forgotten by history  and Russia ? No. The impact of socialism went further than Russia. How many countries now have a socialist  political party ? Even America now has a working class. Until recently America had only a middle class ! And now Berni says openly he is socialist. Long gone are the communist witch hunts. And even now Russia has a communist party. It survived the collapse of Soviets. But will humanity  ( Americans included) survive long enough to evolve ? Americans are busy shooting each other. Makes little difference if legal or illegal.

    America has always had a working class.

    Because we had a working class, we had a literal Communist Party, Socialists, and labor unions.

    Think the Dust Bowl, and Grapes of Wrath, and some of the miners' strikes!

    The Coal Mining Massacre America Forgot
    The mountains of southern West Virginia are riddled with coal—and bullets

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-matewan-massacre-was-epicenter-20th-century-mine-wars-180963026/


    Financially, imho, there was no "Middle Class", until after W W 2.

    The working class is what built America. & after them, the generation that came back from WW2.

    After WW2, with the G.I. Bill, veterans coming home could go to college, or trades school, and borrow money to build homes.

    EDITED TO ADD: The Middle Class today is not as well off as the Middle Class after WW2 was. That Middle Class needed only one wage earner to live a very nice Middle Class lifestyle. 3 or 4 bedroom , one and one half bath brick home that they owned, and a car they owned, savings in the bank. Today it takes two wage earners to earn a "Middle Class" lifestyle, and not all of the homes are brick, and EVERYTHING costs a lot, a lot more!

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:31 am

    Wasn't just miners... Ford wasn't above hiring a few brute squads of his own (princess bride reference) and arming them with Thompson submachine guns when striking workers who wanted better pay or better safer conditions were on strike outside his factories.

    Here in New Zealand the local Maori feel hard done by but they are not all sure of why... us white people are sneaky... we use communism when it suits us and reject it when it does not... obviously the Maori were not stupid... some Maori made lots of money selling land to lots of different people over and over, but the basic problem was that you have a small number of natives and ship in enormous numbers of foreign immigrants who were promised paradise... they left Europe where they were poor... which meant they did not own land... to New Zealand where they did not own land either, so essentially were poor in a nicer climate but had to build a country in terms of roads and ports and houses etc etc.

    The easiest solution was politics... have a referendum and then take bits of land and divide it up and give it to new settlers.

    Without that bit of communism the Maori would be the land owners here and could simply have lived quite comfortably on land rents.

    There were even more modern cases of outright theft... a quite famous (here) case was the Bastion Point situation where local Maori gifted a piece of land out on a peninsula in a harbour that was prime real-estate... it was during WWII and there were real fears that the Germans or Japanese might take advantage of our isolation to attack us as a sort of cheap and easy propaganda victory type thing with many of our men in Europe or elsewhere in the Pacific already fighting.

    The land was given to the local government to allow defences to be built to defend the country.

    They didn't end up building anything on there but some smart arse on the local council realised the value of such land and subdivided it up and started selling it to the public... total bastard... should have thanked them for their gift and returned it as unneeded.

    Essentially current white people didn't do anything wrong and are actually bending over backwards to try to give Maori opportunities and chances to do better at the expense of all other groups including whites, but obviously they now see themselves as victims, which is a hard way to live your life because it leads to charity dependence.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:45 pm

    Hillary and the D. Party threw the US blue collar workers under the bus. A prime reason she lost in 2016 was because she couldn't
    even be bothered to campaign in key states to her supposed base. The D. Party is the fake left party. It is a tool of the globalist
    oligarchy that runs the USA. Trump was the blue collar candidate in 2016 even though he was representing the R. Party which is supposed
    to serve that same oligarchy as a matter of principle.

    American workers and middle class have no party that represents them. The R. Party has demonstrated that it is servile to the same
    masters that own the D. Party. I doubt that Trump will run 2024. He was a flash in the pan. The US oligarchy has succeeded in
    keeping its agenda going. The current stolen-election Biden regime is the US future. A dictatorship where the masses are diverted
    with genitalia, their surgical excision and their daily use for "gender" activity. Seriously, how can any national dialogue be focused on
    LGBTXYZ? Who the fcuk cares about them and their private lives. They are not national issues and they already have all the rights
    and freedoms that every other citizen has so do not need special treatment. Then we have BLM. Americans are supposed to bend
    the knee at every event to show respect to a terrorist organization. Whose leaders are clearly corrupt maggots that wallow in the
    purchase of mansions. BLM is a project of the US oligarchy.

    But all I hear from the US right is yammering about communism. What communism you boneheads. You are being assraped by your
    corporate idols/ideals.

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:28 pm



    We hear so much about Venezuela's "incompetent economics", but the USA is running a fiscal policy that would make Pancho Villa recoil
    in horror.   There is clearly no competent macroeconomics management in the USA.   Just print more dollar "pesos" and hope the trickle
    down sorts everything out.   For now this brain dead racket is not leading to hyperinflation.   But at some point it will.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:16 pm

    More about immigration in the usa

    Biden admin formally ends Trump's 'Remain in Mexico' immigration policy
    The Biden administration officially ended former President Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" immigration policy this week.

    The policy, formally known as Migrant Protection Protocols, was implemented in 2019 and required asylum seekers to stay on the Mexican side of the U.S. border while awaiting immigration court proceedings.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-ends-trumps-remain-in-mexico-immigration-policy


    PHOTOS: West Texas Border Town Swells with Migrants amid Catch and Release
    DEL RIO, Texas — Some residents are extremely concerned about the continuous flow of migrants in their community. One man, Joe Bernard, worries about his family’s safety. Joe lives less than a mile from the Rio Grande, near a busy crossing point for Haitian and Venezuelan migrants. His family was recently stopped by some in the middle of a roadway.

    Bernard’s wife recounted the incident. When traveling home last Friday, she says a group of five stopped her near the family home. “One of the men walked in front of my vehicle and laid flat across the road to make me stop,” she added.
    “I was terrified, there were two other men and a female with a baby, I was barely able to swerve around them and not run over the man in the street.”

    Joe’s wife says she had just witnessed a similar incident a few moments earlier when another driver was approached by several migrants demanding he halt.

    The frustration was heavy in her voice as she ultimately argued: “This comes from the highest level of government–they don’t care one bit about us.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/06/04/photos-west-texas-border-town-swells-with-migrants-amid-catch-and-release/


    Anxiety, depression rampant at HHS migrant children’s shelter at Fort Bliss, former workers say
    MIGRANT CENTERS
    Ex-employees report 'mini protests,' gang-like activity and express concern over insufficient mental health services for the minors

    https://www.borderreport.com/hot-topics/migrant-centers/anxiety-depression-rampant-at-hhs-migrant-childrens-shelter-at-fort-bliss-former-workers-say/

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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:31 pm

    Biden's regime is engaging in the same dilute the resistance policy that the EU overlords engage in. Note how this use of migrants
    as a weapon against the indigenous resistance is couched in PC flowery language. It is all about tolerance and human rights.
    Well, then, why not just transplant a couple of billion "oppressed" victims from around the world to the west today. They deserve
    to be saved.

    You do not see people fleeing for their lives arriving on the US southern border. These are economic migrants. They will always
    exist. But they cannot form the basis of the immigrant pool today. This is not the 1880s and the settlement of the wild frontier
    with unskilled labour. There is no room for such migration today. There is no room for mass migration, period.

    Anyway, Americans need to develop some critical thinking skills and stop looking for Russians under every bed. Based on what
    America is routinely attempting to pull in Russia, you are lucky you are not getting nuked. Russia has shown epic restraint
    in the face of such open political and economic sabotage.

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