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    Post  elconquistador Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:You can find all the links you want.

    1. The move was against policy, despite what some cops say. Specific departments can ban the use of move, the one Chauvin worked for banned it, you are lying straight up.

    2. Chauvin was never taught to use the move.

    3. Even if he WAS allowed Chauvin did not follow how the move is supposed to be used and ignored tons of other duties of his, he was trained to give medical attention, the never did that even tho protocol states he must.

    The guy is guilty.

    Additionally

    Various medical experts rebuked the claimed the death was because of drugs.

    It was very clear and scientifically laid out, and was said there was no evidence Floyd would have died that night if not for the police.

    The amount of drugs in his system was very very very minor, as showed by the toxically reports in fact it was under average DUI standards, so this lethal drug intake is total BS.

    You just revealed how much your lying congrats.

    So Elcon, you are a liar pure and simple

    You truly are the biggest simpleton on the platform

    I have just showed you official documents stating that the knee-between-shoulder blades technique/ pressure-on-neck technique is part of the official MPD training documents and all you give me are 5 paragraphs of nothing but brainfarts.

    You are an absolute fool. And a massive liar on top of that.

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    Also, 11ng/ml is definitely enough Fentanyl in the blood stream to overdose on. Again, look it up you simpleton. And then combine his fentanyl use with the fact that his blood work also revealed that he had cannabis, methaphetimines and morphine in his system.

    And then realize that he had a severe heart disease, clogged arteries and hypertension.

    And you'll come to the conclusion that Chauvin performed a legally lawful arrest on a career criminal resisting arrest that then passed out whilst in the process of being subdued

    It was bad optics, on that I agree. And in the age of nu-males female-supremacy and nonstop race baiting optics carry more weight than cold hard facts

    This man was subsequently sacrificed on the altar of Social Justice and Groid Worship for keeping the SJW gods contented

    And we have fools like you celebrating it. What an utter disgrace
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    Post  elconquistador Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:25 pm

    I have copied this post from another corner of the worldwide Web. These words are not my own, but I wanted to share it to show how much of a total sham this verdict is.

    This verdict is a total disgrace and represents one of the final few blaring alarms for the remaining normal Americans to wake up, get out of the big cities and organize mass secession movements before it's too late.

    I would understand a few years for manslaughter caused by recklessly applying the official guidelines without due diligence taken to assess the situation and be more gentle with Floyd, but this is a complete travesty.

    Not a single word regarding intent, malice or the desire to inflict harm willfully was mentioned at the trial, yet Chauvin was found guilty of intentionally murdering Floyd because supposedly he disliked his skin color and decided to kill him right there and then.

    What-the-****-am-i-reading.jpg

    It's like a government bill regarding regulations on chicken feed that's read in Congress for three days and causing a limited debate regarding poultry, but what is actually written on the paper that's going to be approved is a $15 trillion military spending package that has nothing to do with chicken feed.

    Remember, not one word was mentioned at the trial about Chauvin's supposed intent to kill Floyd. It wasn't even implied, yet they sentenced him for that!

    Anyways.

    The rioting, looting and burning will never stop. The police will keep getting hollowed out, muzzled and replaced with SJW regime thugs. The BLM is now well-established as the deep state's official paramilitary force, to be used to terrorize citizens and kill political dissidents, and it's too valuable for the establishment to ever dissolve.

    It will keep getting worse and worse.

    The media is already creating another shitstorm over the 16-year old African American girl shot in Columbus, whereas in reality she was shot after attacking another girl with a knife. What would these lunatics prefer the cops to have done, just stand by and watch the other 16-year old African American girl get gutted in the street like a pig?

    Disgusting.

    All Americans need to realize they live in an occupied country and start acting accordingly.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:36 am

    Ah, Econ the meth was so little it was meaningless. The morphine also played no role. Th meth was so little they didn't even report it at first because the levels are so dammed low.

    The drug lab people little said that he had so little meth in his system it was way below a DUI average and the science spoke for its self during the trial you are just lying straight up and btw the medical experts did not agree with you on the Fentanyl.

    Floyd did not die of a drug OD, the Drugs in combination with other factors did help yes, but the main factor was the knee on the neck and all the prosecution had to do was PROVE THE KNEE WAS THE MAIN FACTOR.

    They did not have to prove it was the SOLE factor just that the knee was what caused everything to go downhill and they did.

    Chauvin used an illegal move banned by his percent, he was never taught the move and he did not follow medical protocol and even if the move he used was allowed he did it completely wrong.

    Chauvin is guilty end of story.

    In terms of the 2nd-degree murder, intent to kill did not have to be proven just that Chauvin had the intent to commit a Felony which leads to the death.

    Basically what got him convicted of 2nd degree murder was simple, he was a veteran officer who knew better, he wasn't a rookie. He INTENTIALLY ignored his department's protocol and this intent to not follow what he was taught and trained on what's okay is what got him convicted of second, the prosecution just had to prove he knew better and his actions where on purpose and that is what fucked him over.
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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:36 am

    https://summit.news/2021/04/21/get-the-fk-out-of-new-york-blm-protesters-demand-white-restaurant-owners-leave-the-city/

    BLM protesters in New York reacted to the Derek Chauvin verdict by harassing diners and demanding white owners of restaurants “get the f**k out” of the city.

    “We don’t want your money! We don’t want your f**king taquerias owned by white men!” the crowd chants, before another demonstrator suggests that the mob “take 30 per cent” of their income.

    The group later marched across Manhattan Bridge while chanting “one solution, revolution” as they carried a banner displaying bloody hand prints and the words “abolish the NYPD.”

    These chimps are going to "protest" (i.e. engage in violence and intimidation) regardless of any trial outcome.

    The PC retard jury needs to be lynched for pandering to the lunatic fringe.

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    Post  limb Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:41 am

    elconquistador wrote:Derek Chauvin was just found guilty on all three charges

    Second degree murder, let that sink in.

    The USA is in the middle of a full blown communist revolution. Nothing is sacred anymore, everything that was once American will be destroyed and everything that was once anti-American will be made the 'new normal'

    The Constitution is dead. Rule of law is dead. American ideals are dead. Democratic institutions are dead. The founding demographic is being replaced on purpose.

    The new official Critical Race Theory ideology (Trotskyist Anti-White racism) the packing of the courts, statehood for Washington +Puerto Rico, the coming strict gun laws, the blatant intimidation and politicisation in trials, the rampant censorship, the zoning laws aimed at 'diversifying' any White neighbourhood, the filibusters, the engineered crisis on the Southern border, the election fraud, the New Green Deal

    It's akin to something of a ritual humiliation at this point. Everything aimed at removing/silencing the biggest obstacle towards corporate techno-feudal Trotskyist one party rule: Heritage America



    https://thesaker.is/important-announcement-by-the-saker/

    Related  to that is The Saker cucking out. I can understand that he is starting to feel scared, but still, LOL. Never cuck out Andrei, that will only make them more rabid. More aggressive. JUst get out instead while you still can. What is this man thinking, that they'll let him of the hook for being a White Christian Traditionalist 'Pro-Putin propagandist' just because he doesn't break any laws?

    Some of these guys are so naieve, so delusional.

    Every minute a sucker is born somewhere

    As if american ideals were ever real and not self adulating BS. American ideals at their core are racism and imperialism under the guise of spreading "civilization", as well as protecting the assets of oligarchs.
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    Post  kvs Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:47 am

    That's what the rest of the world gets. But at least Americans had some normalcy up until the last few years. It was not all fake
    and couldn't have been.

    But it looks like the superiority (economic, moral) angle has washed out and the US elites want to have a make over to leverage new
    "superiority" to retain imperial power. But as was on many occasions, history repeats as a farce. This Trotskyist toilet that America
    is transforming into will not have any appeal to the rest of the planet. Blue collar workers and the global poor do not need identity
    politics to lift them into better lives.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:19 am

    kvs wrote:https://summit.news/2021/04/21/get-the-fk-out-of-new-york-blm-protesters-demand-white-restaurant-owners-leave-the-city/

    BLM protesters in New York reacted to the Derek Chauvin verdict by harassing diners and demanding white owners of restaurants “get the f**k out” of the city.

    “We don’t want your money! We don’t want your f**king taquerias owned by white men!” the crowd chants, before another demonstrator suggests that the mob “take 30 per cent” of their income....

    This sounds like communism Cool



    The group later marched across Manhattan Bridge while chanting “one solution, revolution”...

    This definitely sounds like communism lol1



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    Post  elconquistador Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:23 am

    @seig

    You are just going in circles here trying to obfuscate the obvious fact that the MPD did indeed allow the use of neck restraint.

    Same for the drugs stuff.

    Great analysis from the guys over at The Duran. They conclude the same like we've done here. Major tampering with the jury, major politicisation/racialisation of the trial, major shortcomings on the judge/treatment of the jury, major shortcomings leading to inadequate review of the autopsy reports, no ground whatsoever for anything close to a second degree murder conviction.

    Clownshow. Banana Republic. Mobrule. Two tier society. One party rule. Oligarchs. Politburo. Implosion of the USA.

    End of.



    I wonder how long these guys will remain on YouTube. I give it three weeks at best.

    Big props to them for trying to break the media narrative and the persecution that comes with it.
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    Post  elconquistador Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:36 am

    Getting police to quit their job is part of the plan. And it's happening a lot.

    I actually don't really care. These are the same people that have been denting heads in at covid1984 protests for months now, and are basically just power tripping, trigger-happy cowboys (a large minority of them at least). They'd do anything to protect their 45k+ a year/ pension. It's time they start feeling the heat

    The problem is of course that they will be replaced with the SJW woke mob fools
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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:26 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fk-police-proclaims-32-year-oid-livestreamer-killing-cop-2am-drunken-hit-and-run

    Are the Bidet regime mouthpieces going to spew sympathy for the killer I wonder...
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:12 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fk-police-proclaims-32-year-oid-livestreamer-killing-cop-2am-drunken-hit-and-run

    Are the Bidet regime mouthpieces going to spew sympathy for the killer I wonder...

    They will conveniently ignore this, and then the bitch in the article will get off on community service by cleaning graffiti over BLM murals and shit.
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    Post  calripson Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:54 am

    elconquistador wrote:Getting police to quit their job is part of the plan. And it's happening a lot.

    I actually don't really care. These are the same people that have been denting heads in at covid1984 protests for months now, and are basically just power tripping, trigger-happy cowboys (a large minority of them at least). They'd do anything to protect their 45k+ a year/ pension. It's time they start feeling the heat

    The problem is of course that they will be replaced with the SJW woke mob fools

    The intent is to make it virtually impossible for a white male to be a cop unless they are masochists. The police will be surprisingly non-white in 20 years including the leadership. The police are the operative arm of the state most involved with the populace as a use of force. Clinton famously scolded liberal democrats in 1992 (who post-Viet Nam were historically anti-military) with the exhortation that "they're our military now". Likewise, the police will be remade into "our police" and their power at that point will not be restrained nor diminished.

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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:17 pm

    https://summit.news/2021/04/30/hysterical-imbeciles-cancel-jeopardy-winner-for-white-supremacist-hand-sign-that-had-nothing-to-do-with-white-supremacy/

    America is eating itself and is transitioning into an idiocracy.

    The US decider elites are actual imbeciles. They thought that dumbing down Americans through degradation of the education system and
    foisting of irrational-think PC identity politics would give them more power. It had the obvious effect of degrading the capacity of
    the country to be viable. Participation trophy retards are never going to be a useful workforce and the USA cannot live off leeching
    from the rest of the planet for scientific and engineering talent forever. For now you have many talented people rushing to the US
    chasing a phony dream, but the break down of order will stop this. Having rampant crime and privileged group immunity as they
    engage in racist violence (e.g. blacks on Asians) will kill the phony dream. Without this imported talent, America will not even be
    able to wipe its collective ass.

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    Post  kvs Wed May 05, 2021 1:32 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youll-never-be-white-black-teachers-racist-rant-highlights-need-equip-all-officers-body

    Life must be grand when all your problems are whitey's fault. If you never tried in school, blame whitey and his racist mathematics.
    If you never got a good job because you were never qualified, blame whitey for job discrimination. If you get pulled over for traffic
    violations go on racist rants because you are a bitter loser who does not want to play by the rules. Traffic rules are racist too,
    after all.



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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 05, 2021 4:50 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youll-never-be-white-black-teachers-racist-rant-highlights-need-equip-all-officers-body

    Life must be grand when all your problems are whitey's fault.   If you never tried in school, blame whitey and his racist mathematics.
    If you never got a good job because you were never qualified, blame whitey for job discrimination.   If you get pulled over for traffic
    violations go on racist rants because you are a bitter loser who does not want to play by the rules.   Traffic rules are racist too,
    after all.




    Retarded rant, all cops should have body cameras is protects the person and the officer.

    For example thanks to body cameras a cop was caught planting drugs in a car and he was sent to prison and thanks to them a cop was proven innocent of an accused crime.

    I see nothing wrong with demanding all police officers wear body cams at all, it benefits both parties in the end,

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    Post  elconquistador Wed May 05, 2021 7:28 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    kvs wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youll-never-be-white-black-teachers-racist-rant-highlights-need-equip-all-officers-body

    Life must be grand when all your problems are whitey's fault.   If you never tried in school, blame whitey and his racist mathematics.
    If you never got a good job because you were never qualified, blame whitey for job discrimination.   If you get pulled over for traffic
    violations go on racist rants because you are a bitter loser who does not want to play by the rules.   Traffic rules are racist too,
    after all.




    Retarded rant, all cops should have body cameras is protects the person and the officer.

    For example thanks to body cameras a cop was caught planting drugs in a car and he was sent to prison and thanks to them a cop was proven innocent of an accused crime.

    I see nothing wrong with demanding all police officers wear body cams at all, it benefits both parties in the end,


    Has it ever appeared to the members (and mods!) of this forum that trolls like Seig never provide anything of value (as in articles/analyses/videos/etc.) yet as soon as they see something they don't like rush in trying to derail/obfuscate/frustrate the conversation?

    I mean how obvious do things have to be. Classic troll behaviour.

    Why is this allowed?

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 05, 2021 7:45 am

    The article was about equipping all cops with body cams yeah race was mentioned and brought up.

    While the argument for wanting to equip all cops with it is just false and inaccurate.

    There is nothing wrong with mandating all cops wear them, again body cams protect BOTH parties.

    You are just looking for an excuse to bitch that is all.
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    Post  nomadski Wed May 05, 2021 10:47 am

    Ye men of little faith. I told you he will be back. Here new website for 2024 election. Maybe even new political party. Maybe the spasmodic nationalism of Trump will end up  being free from deep state. Stop wars and build wall and jobs for the American worker?


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-03/trump-weighs-2024-white-house-run-without-mike-pence-allies-say

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    Post  kvs Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm

    nomadski wrote:Ye men of little faith. I told you he will be back. Here new website for 2024 election. Maybe even new political party. Maybe the spasmodic nationalism of Trump will end up  being free from deep state. Stop wars and build wall and jobs for the American worker?


    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-03/trump-weighs-2024-white-house-run-without-mike-pence-allies-say


    The problem is that the deep state and its D. Party sock puppets have grabbed power and are changing the laws and stuffing appointments
    to make sure that Trump or any other "populist" who does not toe the party line will never have a chance. The US brazenly prevents
    3rd party candidates from even showing up on the presidential election ballots, it is now going for the next logical step and making sure
    that only the selected candidate gets a chance.

    Thanks to the fake stream media hysteria against Trump and the fact that even "right wing" MSM like Fox sold out, I doubt the R. Party
    will even let Trump get the nomination. We have McConnell running the show and he is a frothing at the mouth anti-Trump hyena.
    The R. Party is now the junior clown in the one party regime running the USA. Its purpose is to feed the sheeple the illusion that they
    have an actual choice on their ballot.

    Really, America is the worst sort of one party regime. At least in the USSR there was guaranteed work, housing, education and
    health care. People got something. In the USA they get a big fat schlong up their asses. As they chirp about communism "over there".



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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm

    "At least in the USSR there was guaranteed work, housing, education and health care. People got something"

    Totally that's why the Russian people revolted against the USSR, historical revision is strong on this website.
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    Post  lancelot Wed May 05, 2021 3:41 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:"At least in the USSR there was guaranteed work, housing, education and health care. People got something"

    Totally that's why the Russian people revolted against the USSR, historical revision is strong on this website.

    Except they didn't revolt against the USSR. There was a referendum and a majority of people voted for the continuation of the USSR.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

    What people were against was the military coup against Gorbachev which is something quite different.
    Politicians like Yeltsin took advantage of the situation to grab into power.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 05, 2021 3:55 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:"At least in the USSR there was guaranteed work, housing, education and health care. People got something"

    Totally that's why the Russian people revolted against the USSR, historical revision is strong on this website.

    Except they didn't revolt against the USSR. There was a referendum and a majority of people voted for the continuation of the USSR.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

    What people were against was the military coup against Gorbachev which is something quite different.
    Politicians like Yeltsin took advantage of the situation to grab into power.

    That was in June and the collapse was in December but that vote only confirmed people's desire to have freedoms outside of what the USSR allowed and when people saw a real chance to be free from the USSR they jumped onboard. The vote in June was about giving them more freedom and autonomies if the option "to leave the USSR was on that vote" people would have voted for that in heartbeat, the countries that did wanted to leave did leave.

    The USSR was a dying cesspool in its final months, people were tired of it and they wanted out and when a chance to get out came along they lept at it.

    You can rewrite history all you like, the USSR wasn't popular among the people who lived there, and its time came.

    Yeltsin was able to break up the USSR because the mass was behind him, if they weren't the commies would have just brushed him under the rug, so trying to act like Yeltsin did that on his own with some politicians is just behind foolish.

    Yeltsin had the support of the people but Gorby could have stopped it if he wanted to even then but he didn't.


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    Post  lancelot Wed May 05, 2021 4:20 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yeltsin had the support of the people but Gorby could have stopped it if he wanted to even then but he didn't.

    Not really. Gorbachev was presented with a fait accomplit. After the coup he lost all remaining power he had. He wanted the USSR to continue.
    Mind you, he was the cause of the collapse in the first place. But it was not by design.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed May 05, 2021 5:08 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Yeltsin had the support of the people but Gorby could have stopped it if he wanted to even then but he didn't.

    Not really. Gorbachev was presented with a fait accomplit. After the coup he lost all remaining power he had. He wanted the USSR to continue.
    Mind you, he was the cause of the collapse in the first place. But it was not by design.

    The man is on the record himself stating he let it happen but in all fairness. Spetznaz teams were told to apprehend Yeltsin but they refused to do so, I believe the reason was so many people were around the capital building refusing to let them pass, in order to break through that meant killing their civilians so they refused to proceed based on that.

    That is the reasoning the commander gave at the time.

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