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    Post  hoom Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:55 pm

    Some shooting of the 30mm armed version in this (via charly015)

    Stability while shooting seems surprisingly impressive, I'd assumed a big gun like that up high would have the thing wobbling all over but nope.
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:07 am

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    AA variant??
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    Post  Hole Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:50 am

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    Post  Isos Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:00 pm

    I doubt it is a AA version. It depend what optics it has. But against helicopters it can be dangerous. Maybe it has a thermals and a laser rangefinder which would help targeting any target.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:36 am

    I would think an AA version would have roof mounted 360 degree independent optics for scanning without having to spin the turret... having to swing the turret around all the time to find targets would make it very visible from the air.

    Also they have a few missiles that would be rather good for SAM use like Kornet-EM and Pine they could probably fit too... or at least Igla-S or Verba.

    Should almost certainly be able to shoot at air targets but likely not optimised for such.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:49 am

    Interesting there is no pano or commander sight on top that can turn independently of the turret for a 360 degree view...

    Perhaps this is like the BRDM-2 where there is a gunner and a commander/gunner so the commander doesn't need a separate sight.

    The photo of the front of the turret shows what is likely a covered optical port on the right side looking at the vehicle with a hatch presumably to load ammo for the coaxial machine gun. The large panel on the other side of the gun... could it be a radar or radio communicaiton system to set off airburst 30mm shells?

    The rear centre large hatch would be for removing the guns and perhaps loading the 30mm cannon ammo...


    Looks like a neat little vehicle....
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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:39 am

    Would be a potent light escort vehicle... the South Africans were impressed with the 30mm cannon on the BMP-2 when they got access to them... my nephew liked the 25mm cannon on our LAVIIIs too with full stabilisation and thermal optics they are very potent systems...
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:31 pm

    I miss the elegant angled armor of Soviet armored cars, why has Russia shifted to these western style cars with armored cabins welded on?

    The older style should offer better protection against gunfire and could easily be adapted to be effective against explosions.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:04 am

    At this level of armour no amount of angling will stop most anti armour weapons... most anti armour weapons are designed for heavy armour anyway... during WWII there was APHE which penetrated armour and then exploded inside the vehicle... without the HE charge it would probably punch a neat hole in... punch through anything inside the tank in its line of travel and then punch a neat hole out of the vehicle... if it didn't hit fuel or ammo or crew it might not do that much damage at all.

    These days most guns are designed to penetrate their designated targets and generally just manage to do so... ie a 30mm APDS round is not likely to come blasting out the back of a modern Warrior or Bradley... in fact with add on armour panels it might not always penetrate the front... so the step up is 57mm calibre which is going to be overkill for most MRAP type vehicles... in fact 30mm would be fine against MRAP... whether they have straight box sides or angled plates like a slater...

    The level of protection is such that even ancient obsolete anti armour weapons like the RPG-18 or the LAW are still effective weapons.

    Angling the armour improves its effectiveness which can be critical when the enemy round struggles to penetrate anyway... but later on its effect is not so noticable.

    The negative effect of angled armour is it reduces internal volume and generally makes things cramped and uncomfortable for the crew and troops.

    Earlier on being a smaller target was an advantage too but these days most guns systems are rather more accurate, though an erratically moving vehicle will always be a problem for any unguided round.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:48 am

    My point was about machinegun fire not aoutocannon and ATGMs, the newer designs also put the radiator on the front which and whichever protection method they use it will always be inferior to mounting it on the roof of the engine compartment (like on many Soviet vehicles), it will likely also cause more problems when crossing streams.

    The other thing I was saying is that I preffer the elaborate welding of Soviet vehicles to the cheap western style boxes optimised for unskilled labour.
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