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Russia's joint military exercises with foreign countries
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Joint exercise of air defense forces "Slavic Shield-2021" completed in Serbia
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"Defenders of Friendship-2021": Departure of Russian Servicemen for Joint Exercises
Servicemen of the Guards Airborne Assault Regiment of the Novorossiysk Mountain Formation departed from the Russian Federation to the Arab Republic of Egypt to participate in the joint tactical exercise Defenders of Friendship-2021, which will be held from 17 to 29 October.
As part of the exercise, the personnel will work out interaction in the preparation and conduct of hostilities in the course of blocking and destroying illegal armed formations of a simulated enemy in a desert area.
Servicemen of the Guards Airborne Assault Regiment of the Novorossiysk Mountain Formation departed from the Russian Federation to the Arab Republic of Egypt to participate in the joint tactical exercise Defenders of Friendship-2021, which will be held from 17 to 29 October.
As part of the exercise, the personnel will work out interaction in the preparation and conduct of hostilities in the course of blocking and destroying illegal armed formations of a simulated enemy in a desert area.
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The joint Russian-Chinese exercise "Maritime Interaction 2021" ends in the Sea of Japan
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Opening ceremony of the joint Russian-Egyptian exercise "Defenders of Friendship 2021"
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Isn't that a little unwise to put your infantry so close to the muzzle of the tank gun? With the Leopard 2 they had to be further away an definitely not in front of the idler wheel because of the blast. Also, since tanks attracts enemy fire you didn't want your own infantry close to the tank.
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11E wrote:
Isn't that a little unwise to put your infantry so close to the muzzle of the tank gun? With the Leopard 2 they had to be further away an definitely not in front of the idler wheel because of the blast. Also, since tanks attracts enemy fire you didn't want your own infantry close to the tank.
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Do you have a pic where the tank is actually firing from that position?
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Not with infantry in the neighbourhood, most of the times I was busy with the tank itself
But this is a pic of the tank firing at range 6 Bergen (DEU) were you can see the fireball and blast. It blew all the gravel away.



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Are these pictures you have taken?
The pic in question appears to be taken from a drone... but being a still image you can't tell whether the troops were there using the cover of the road and the tank is sitting there in position too or if the tank just moved there to support an assault on that built up area in front of them and would immediately move forward... but standard practice for built up areas is for troops to go first which would be the opposite of that.
It might be that the people on the ground are in direct radio contact with the tank which is using the road to provide a semi hull down position where it can use its thermals to look for targets and can use machine guns for direct fire support.
I would assume with the kit set buildings in front of them they wont be firing live main calibre rounds.
Certainly not a place to be when a modern tank fires a full power round like HE or APFSDS rounds.
The pic in question appears to be taken from a drone... but being a still image you can't tell whether the troops were there using the cover of the road and the tank is sitting there in position too or if the tank just moved there to support an assault on that built up area in front of them and would immediately move forward... but standard practice for built up areas is for troops to go first which would be the opposite of that.
It might be that the people on the ground are in direct radio contact with the tank which is using the road to provide a semi hull down position where it can use its thermals to look for targets and can use machine guns for direct fire support.
I would assume with the kit set buildings in front of them they wont be firing live main calibre rounds.
Certainly not a place to be when a modern tank fires a full power round like HE or APFSDS rounds.
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The muzzle is naked. You should be safe from the effects of the overpressure standing at least a meter behind the muzzle - the space is because the gun reciprocates. Its going to be loud asf though so hope you brought earpros.11E wrote:
Isn't that a little unwise to put your infantry so close to the muzzle of the tank gun? With the Leopard 2 they had to be further away an definitely not in front of the idler wheel because of the blast. Also, since tanks attracts enemy fire you didn't want your own infantry close to the tank.
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The Leopard 2 pic is mine. Taken from the range towerGarryB wrote:Are these pictures you have taken?
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Don't seem to remember them looking like this in Red Square
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More modified vehicles that took part in last month’s CSTO Combat Brotherhood 2021 exercise, including a BTR-80, BMP-2, and gun truck on a Ural-4320 chassis. 304/
https://instagram.com/p/CWBoIp8sgRF/



Higher def photos at https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1458331410121515010

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More modified vehicles that took part in last month’s CSTO Combat Brotherhood 2021 exercise, including a BTR-80, BMP-2, and gun truck on a Ural-4320 chassis. 304/
https://instagram.com/p/CWBoIp8sgRF/
Higher def photos at https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1458331410121515010
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The Leopard 2 pic is mine. Taken from the range tower
Thanks for sharing... wasn't being snippy...

I thought if the original pictures were yours that you might remember how the situation developed... ie were the troops already there and the tank pulled up beside them or was the tank already there and the troops arrived.
As I mentioned the fact that they are facing prefabricated buildings I rather suspect main calibre tank fire was not expected so such a position is not as bad as it looks.
Being this close to the tank means you can see where his optics are pointed and therefore roughly what he is looking at and your points of references are very similar... ie dead ahead or 11 oclock etc etc for spotting targets and firing points of the enemy... the tank could fire "machine gun support" and use its optics to aide the infantry and in real combat might fire main gun ammo to support the attack if heavy fire appears to be coming from one building, but during this training I suspect main gun ammo would not be fired and if they did they would warn nearby troops.
I wonder if hearing protection is part of Ratnik 2 or the upcoming Ratnik 3... a set of directional microphones and ear protection would be rather useful in combat to improve situational awareness and protect the troops.
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The maritime phase of the Russian-Egyptian exercise "Bridge of Friendship-2021"
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Interesting the new gun on the Russian ship does not eject the empty brass on to the deck like older guns did/do.
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GarryB wrote:Interesting the new gun on the Russian ship does not eject the empty brass on to the deck like older guns did/do.
That's the gun from an egyptian ship.
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Actually I'm wrong. I thought it was a Gowind class because the front is flat but it seems to be a Bykov class.
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Easy enough mistake to make, with them all being stealthy and modern it is becoming hard to tell them apart...
for outright saying you made a mistake though... 
I am still not 100% sure myself...


I am still not 100% sure myself...

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The defense minister also stressed that China, India, Algeria, Egypt, Vietnam and Myanmar remain Russia’s partners in the field of military cooperation.
https://tass.com/defense/1378717
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Kazakh lower house ratifies military cooperation agreement with Russia
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Joint naval exercise "CHIRU-2022" of warships of Russia, China and Iran in the Gulf of Oman
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