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    Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 31, 2022 11:17 pm

    I am hoping that the lack of deployment of water cooled reactors in Russia is because there is the intention to transition to sodium
    (and eventually lead) cooled reactors in the 2030s. Having a frenzy of VVER reactor construction now would block construction
    of BN-1200 reactors. Better to ride out the existing, obsolete models for the next 15-20 years and replace them with BN-1200s.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:18 pm

    That aged well.

    They control an international payment system... they have a monopoly and they destroyed it trying to hurt Russia not realising that Russia is a producer and has enormous natural resources and talent that countries around the world want to buy, so kicking Russia out of SWIFT essentially means they have to set up an alternative system the west has no control of and any customer who wants to buy Russian products including the west will need to join that alternative because Russia wont be giving things away for free.

    Who knew the west would be that stupid... it seems to be the only way they surprise these days in a race to the bottom of the barrel.

    Better to ride out the existing, obsolete models for the next 15-20 years and replace them with BN-1200s.

    Very much agree... with new large ships using nuclear power plants I would hope the technology will improve in leaps and bounds as well over the next decade or two to improve robustness and size and price... and power generation.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:31 am

    GarryB wrote:They control an international payment system... they have a monopoly and they destroyed it trying to hurt Russia not realising that Russia is a producer and has enormous natural resources and talent that countries around the world want to buy, so kicking Russia out of SWIFT essentially means they have to set up an alternative system the west has no control of and any customer who wants to buy Russian products including the west will need to join that alternative because Russia wont be giving things away for free.

    Who knew the west would be that stupid... it seems to be the only way they surprise these days in a race to the bottom of the barrel.

    Their intention is that Russia should collapse, as the USSR collapsed. And then NATO "peacekeeping" troops will be brought into this territory, and, you know, all these resources will be free for Western countries. Even if a hundred million people in Russia have to die to turn into colonies like India or China a hundred and fifty years ago. This is their plan.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:48 am

    Their intention is that Russia should collapse, as the USSR collapsed. And then NATO "peacekeeping" troops will be brought into this territory, and, you know, all these resources will be free for Western countries. Even if a hundred million people in Russia have to die to turn into colonies like India or China a hundred and fifty years ago. This is their plan.

    A Law needs to be passed in Russia, that a Soviet style collapse is equivalent to an imminent threat to the integrity of the state and therefore Russia is required by law to unload all its nukes on NATzO countries. attack
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:44 am

    The really sad thing is that the plan is not even original... look at a map from 120 years ago and look at the middle east... when Germany fell out of favour and became the bad boy in Europe after WWI (Germany was no more to blame for WWI than any other country involved of course but they get the bad guy badge because it is assigned by the real bad guys... Britain and France... the colonial pricks) all the resources and assets and territories the Germans had any influence were seized by the victors of WWI... American Samoa suddenly appeared on a map... I had a Samoan maths teacher... his name was Mr Schwalga (spelling) but he did not look German.

    The same thing happened in the Middle east where known oil resources were divided up by Britain and France and countries were created that never existed before with the boundaries they were given... no Saudi Arabia, no Iraq or Iran or Kuwaite or Yemen... the people obviously were there and should have been given the opportunity to decide what country states they wanted... which would have created Kurdistan of course... or maybe they might have decided on only one or two big countries that could dictate to the west the oil prices, but the west would not allow that... they would incite conflict and start wars and break it up... much like it is currently doing to Russia and would do to China and India and Brazil and South Africa etc when it gets the chance...

    Recently posted map from 1900...

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    Look at the size of Russia.... where is Finland or Georgia or Armenia or Azerbaijan or Poland or the Baltic states...

    A Law needs to be passed in Russia, that a Soviet style collapse is equivalent to an imminent threat to the integrity of the state and therefore Russia is required by law to unload all its nukes on NATzO countries.

    Don't think they would need such a law if the west is caught red handed...

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    Post  Arrow Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:43 pm

    Guys , are fast reactors cooled with sodium or lead alloys able to directly fission U-238 and Tor-232? It is known that the fission of U-238 nuclei requires neutrons with energies greater than 1 MeV. From what I read, these reactors produce fissile Pu-239 from U-238, which can also be used later in ordinary slow neutron reactors. But do fast reactors fission regular U-238? It is known that they can "burn" part of the nuclear waste, producing energy from it.
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:30 pm

    The whole point of a fast neutron reactor is to "breed" fuel. The fast neutrons convert 238 into 239 which is fuel. Breeder reactors
    are able to convert thorium into fuel as well if designed for it. The essential element for fuel conversion is subsequent reprocessing.
    Very few countries invested in this technology. In the west it is France that can do reprocessing. The US stopped in the 1970s and
    cannot do it today even if has the potential.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor

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    Post  lancelot Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:59 pm

    The US spent many billions trying to build a MOX fuel facility with French technical assistance until Obama pulled the plug on the project.
    https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/US-MOX-facility-contract-terminated

    Even then it was still supposed to have no fuel reprocessing capabilities unlike the similar French facility it was based on.
    https://www.nrc.gov/materials/fuel-cycle-fac/mox/faq.htm

    There are no facilities in the US to reprocess fuel and no plans to build them.
    https://www.nrc.gov/materials/reprocessing.html

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:03 pm

    Water shortages in the Donbas soon to be resolved:

    Already in April of this year, the first water of the new water pipeline erected by specialists of the Military Construction Complex of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, which will connect the Rostov region and Donbass, will be delivered to the residents of the region.

    Given the importance of the project being implemented, the Russian Defense Ministry continues to increase the grouping of military builders at the water pipeline facilities.

    To date, more than 3,200 specialists and over 1,300 pieces of equipment have been involved in the construction.

    The progress of the construction of a large-scale hydraulic structure was inspected today by Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Timur Ivanov as part of a working trip to the troops of the Southern Military District.

    Currently, military builders are erecting a water intake node on the Don River, pumping stations for water transfer, strengthening the coastal zone, installing transformer substations and power lines.

    Timur Ivanov flew around the construction areas by helicopter and visited a number of key water pipeline facilities where he checked the progress of the work.

    Also, the deputy head of the Russian military department held a working meeting and heard reports from representatives of design and construction organizations of the Ministry of Defense.

    Timur Ivanov paid special attention to the observance of the deadlines for the construction of the water pipeline.

    "I ask you not to slow down the high pace you have gained. We all understand how important the task is to provide the residents of Donbass with water as soon as possible," the Deputy Defense Minister said.

    The new hydraulic structure will pass through the territory of the Rostov Region and the Donetsk People's Republic to the Seversky Donets – Donbass canal. The capacity of the water pipeline will be up to 300 thousand cubic meters of water per day.

    The project provides for the laying of two strands of the main pipeline of 200 km each, the construction of pumping stations, electrical substations and water storage facilities for 10 thousand cubic meters.

    During the construction, the military designers adjusted the solutions taking into account the periodic floods of the Don and the strong swampiness of the floodplain of the river. We promptly provided for an additional dam and jetties made of crushed stone as protection from ice.

    63 crossings over roads, railways and water barriers will be carried out on the route of laying the water pipeline. Horizontal directional drilling with a length of 1.5 km will be carried out on one of the particularly difficult sections to pass under the railway track and one of the branches of the Don River.

    All work is carried out in parallel and synchronized with the supply of materials. The largest enterprises of the construction materials industry are involved in the work.

    The launch of the pipeline will fill the Seversky Donets canal, from where clean drinking water will go to many settlements of Donbass.

    (Earlier, military builders had already erected and launched a number of water supply facilities, including the Chernovsky water pipeline near Debaltseve, in Volnovakha, Rovenki, Dokuchaevsk, a line from the Khanzhenkovsky reservoir to the Seversky Donets canal, and so on).

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12456250@egNews

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