calripson wrote:Since you like objective measures, here is the link to the top ten global finishers in the IBM Collegiate Programming Contest held annually. (It is actually an impartial test of formulating mathematical algorithms and then coding them.
2019 Moscow State University
2018 Moscow State University
2017 ITMO (Saint Petersburg)
2016 Saint Petersburg State University
2014 Saint Petersburg State University
As an aside, there is one country that does not allow its best and brightest to compete in this contest? Anyone want to guess which one?
By the way, you will not find Qatar anywhere in the top 100 finishers.
Those contest are totally meaningless . This does not contradict in any way that
Russia economy is (largely) a gas station economy
. You can have the best programmers
in the world , the best engineers , the best mathematicians in the universe.. but if they are only
used by the state ,in medals e-penis competition contest , then your talent is wasted.
What is in question is not if Russia have good talent or not.. i don't think not even the west will
ever claim that Russia don't have good scientist or engineer talent. What the west claims
(and they are right..) is that Russia is a gas station , what does russia make ?
The contest that this was told , by obama , is on the presence of top developed nations .
That in comparison to most developed nations , there is very little to almost nothing
that Russia contributes to the world.. other than cheap gas prices and taxi to the ISS.
If master yoda Putin , alias the "chessmaster"
used those talented programmers ,to create a competition to American software industry..
then HELL YESSS!! that will be brilliant decision ,to invest heavily in Russia it software industry
to build total independence from the west software industry + build a global business that directly compete with them .
So in other words.. RUSSIA needs to do capitalism and compete with their top most influential business for capturing their world market. this is how western empires are defeated without firing
a missile. Being successful in high tech industry and entertainment industry ,provide more influence in the world ,than all putin nuclear weapons and hypersonic inventory.
But thats is not what is happening in Russia.. is all Putin does with their talent , is send them
to ibm epenis contest and nothing else for a stupid medal ,then this is another example of
a complete waste of talent.. So this is the other side of the story , those russian programmers ,
goes to those contest ,because they are jobless and they are recruited by american companies,
thanks to the massive ignorance of Russian president ,that don't invest on its scientific and engineer
talent.. other than for building wepaons .
whenever oil prices in russia collapse,, the russian ruble collapse.
whenever oil prices raise , the russian ruble value improve.. this is an example of an
economy extremely dependent on energy and almost nothing else.. why nothing else ?
because russia is undeveloped outdated economy . is not a global exporter of anything , no one in the world ,can mention a single company in russia , unless they are fans of their weapons. this is the very definition of a very outdated nation with outdated business , when no civilian in the world can name a single company that comes from Russia.. why? because russia is not a major exporter of anything than the civilized world cares. And this outdated backwards development of Russia ,during
putin 20 years in power ,is what makes it very very easy for Americans to influence ukrainians , belarusians ,georgians ,latin americans ,the young generations but adults too ,who like progress
to their orbit.
look at this..
Trump have been unable to sanctions china entertainment social business.. wall street love technology and they refused to delist china high tech industry..
And it comes only a day after the New York Stock Exchange refused to comply with a demand to delist three major Chinese telecommunications firms which had been blacklisted by the White House.
So china is effectively building an economy that is more or less sanctions proof ,too important for the west to sanction. and this is what putin needs to follow example.. The entire russian industry is sanctioned without problems , because russia is backward nation and their business not needed at all by any country . means they could replace those business easily with someone else .Russian billionaires lost 1/3 of their fortune do to this sanctions.. while at the same time china billionaires ,
during 2020 alone ,increased their fortune by hundred of billions of dollars.. and i posted that link earlier.
So unfortunately , obama was right.. Russia is an outdated nation ,a gas station (economy) and
it will never ever take off its economy ,at best it will only float and survive with a lot of help from china ,but if china restored relations with america and moved away from russia ,it will be the end
for putin and the end for russia parasite heavily dependent economy. the only way russia can become a true modern nation ,is when putin is kicked from there and a new leadership in place ,that understand clearly ,that the only way russia can be saved ,and avoid a nuclear war ,is by challenging direct competition to US most popular and modern business that they use as a soft power to influence the world into their orbit. True independence from the western modern business ,and compete with them too ,to reduce their world influence and end their ability to blackmail nations..
when trump sanctioned venezuela and iran.. that did caused a lot of damage to their economies.
catastrophic damage.. all trump had to do is to say.. " any nation who wants to do business with us
,will need to follow our sanctions" and this is exactly what happened ,everyone followed
US sanctions. because they need american business.
and this is why is extremely critical for russia existence ,to fight back the west and challenge
US ,not with politeness , or with olympic bullshit medals , but with business that directly compete
with the west.. not banana records , but business than challenges US silicon valley industry and take their clients away from them.. so building technology just for the sake of building it ,is not enough.
is to capture the western top business market ..as china is doing ,that have outpaces apple with huawei in smartphones sales.. this is what really hurts , not only damage the western economy ,but their influence ,their leadership in the world too and encourage nations and billionaires to disobey american sanctions why? because there are strong alternative to them.