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    US Navy ships and weapon systems

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:23 pm

    Agreed, but better than nothing... maybe Rolls Royce can fix the propulsion system and get them running at full speed... if China was smart they would send a dozen subs to UK waters and sail around on the surface rubbing it in that the entire operational fleet is in Chinese waters at the moment.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:15 pm

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    American planned McDonnell Douglas AH-64N Sea Apache concept model

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    Post  GreyHog Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:50 pm

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    American planned McDonnell Douglas AH-64N Sea Apache concept model


    When I saw the pictures, my first gut feeling was, "that looks like something that comes out from whatif modelers site". And I was right:

    https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=42458.45

    But it was not entirely imagination. There was a project to navalize the Apache in the late 80s, and the kitbasher captured it quite well. Apologize in advance if the site I cited is among the untrustworthy:

    http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/mcdonnell_sea_apache.php

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:23 am

    GarryB wrote:Agreed, but better than nothing... maybe Rolls Royce can fix the propulsion system and get them running at full speed... if China was smart they would send a dozen subs to UK waters and sail around on the surface rubbing it in that the entire operational fleet is in Chinese waters at the moment.

    In the turbulent South China Sea, the US Navy bets on on a troubled warship.

    https://news.usni.org/2021/05/27/7th-fleet-co-deployed-lcs-uss-gabrielle-giffords-pretty-much-owned-south-china-sea

    https://news.usni.org/2021/08/11/chinese-see-u-s-littoral-combat-ship-as-powerful-tool-in-future-distributed-conflicts

    Even if Chinese subs came to the North Atlantic/Sea now, they would face UK's ASW aircraft & subs, as well as other littoral navies.
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    Post  George1 Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:28 am

    The third Zumwalt-class destroyer USS Lyndon B. Johnson went to sea for sea trials



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    Post  Finty Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:01 am

    https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/first-steel-cut-for-doris-miller-boeing-rolled-out-new-f-15qa-skyguardian-to-conduct-trials-in-britain-045974/


    Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII) cut the first steel external link plate for use on the US Navy’s fourth ship of the Gerald R. Ford Class aircraft carrier Doris Miller (CVN 81) on Wednesday at its Newport News Shipbuilding division, marking the beginning of its construction. Doris Miller is the second ship of the two-carrier contract award HII received in January 2019 for the detail design and construction of the Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers; Enterprise (CVN 80) being the first ship of the contract.


    More here

    https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/design-preparations-continue-for-the-usas-new-cvn21-supercarrier-01494/
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    Post  Finty Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:32 am

    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/08/uss-gerald-r-ford-cvn-78-commences-planned-incremental-availability/

    he aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) departed Naval Station Norfolk to make the transit to Newport News Shipyard in support of her Planned Incremental Availability (PIA), a six-month period of modernization, maintenance, and repairs, Aug. 20, 2021.
    Naval News Staff 23 Aug 2021

    From USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Public Affairs

    Ford’s PIA was scheduled to serve as the final maintenance phase for the ship prior to her inaugural deployment next year.

    “Team Wolverine is ready for this brief but important maintenance period in Newport News, because we’re pumped for what comes next. This is a first-in-class warship that will lead the future of carrier naval aviation for years to come, and this PIA is the last milestone for us to complete prior to our first work ups and deployment.”



    Capt. Paul Lanzilotta, Ford’s commanding officer
    The move to Newport News comes on the heels a fast-paced and successful 21 months of post-delivery test and trials (PDT&T) and Full Ship Shock Trials (FSST), an intense testing and trials period crucial to ensuring the overall deployment readiness of Ford, and improving upon the construction and ship trial process for follow-on carriers in the class, among them: the future USS John F. Kennedy (CVN 79), Enterprise (CVN 80), and Doris Miller (CVN 81).

    During PDT&T the crew completed all required testing, accomplished planned improvements and maintenance ahead of schedule, and learned valuable lessons to increase the reliability of Ford-class systems. At the same time, the ship also served as the sole East Coast platform for conducting carrier qualifications, qualifying more than 350 pilots.

    USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Commences Planned Incremental Availability
    The aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) departed Naval Station Norfolk to make the transit to Newport News Shipyard in support of her Planned Incremental Availability (PIA), a six-month period of modernization, maintenance, and repairs, Aug. 20, 2021. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Ryan Seelbach)
    Earlier this month Ford completed the final explosive event of FSST. During the four-month testing evolution, the first-in-class aircraft carrier withstood the impact of three 40,000-pound underwater blasts, released at distances progressively closer to the ship to confirm that it can continue to meet demanding mission requirements under the harsh conditions it might encounter in battle.

    “This ship and the crew performed exceptionally well during shock trials, and much of the credit goes to the ship designers and builders who put in the technical rigor to ensure Ford-class carriers will sustain Naval Aviation for generations to come,”

    The Gerald R. Ford-class represents the first major design investment in aircraft carriers since the 1960s. CVN 78 is engineered to support new technologies and a modern air wing essential to deterring and defeating near-peer adversaries in a complex maritime environment.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:05 am

    A failed US ship design, first one now gone.

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    The first Littoral Combat Ship has been decommissioned after just 13 years of service:

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:30 am

    news.usni.org/2021/08/11/chinese-see-u-s-littoral-combat-ship-as-powerful-tool-in-future-distributed-conflicts

    Hahaha... the Chinese see US LCS ships as powerful tool in future distributed conflicts... without even reading the article that is funny...

    Georges post number 412 says
    LCS Independence-class ship withdrawn from US Navy

    So they are still wet behind the ears new and the US is withdrawing some of them but China is scared... hahaha... I bet they are not scared.

    Not scared of brand new ships with faulty and unfixable transmissions that limit their top speed to 12 knots...

    Even if Chinese subs came to the North Atlantic/Sea now, they would face UK's ASW aircraft & subs, as well as other littoral navies.

    Almost their entire surface fleet is overseas, the rest is broken... do they have an ASW in service... they are withdrawing their AWACS and cancelling  its replacements...

    A failed US ship design, first one now gone.

    I am pretty sure that Rolls Royce could rip out the propulsion and transmission and put something in to make it move fast... they wouldn't be terrible patrol boats at the very least...

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    Post  Finty Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:16 pm

    https://blog.usni.org/posts/2021/09/02/things-to-take-from-kabul-to-westpac
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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:36 am

    I wonder how effective it actually would have been if the Taleban had been more serious about making the US leave faster...

    Phalanx is OK... it fires highly toxic DU rounds of 50 calibre size and has an effective range of just under 2km... but Kabul is a huge target so the Taleban could have rolled huge numbers of rocket launchers into position and launched a deluge of rockets at the air field... I doubt Phalanx would have been very effective...

    What they really should have done was not withdraw their air support three months before withdrawing everything else... it would not have been that complex...
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    Post  Hole Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:06 pm

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    Post  Finty Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:38 pm

    I'm not as clued up on ships as Aircraft but knowing their public affairs, I'm assuming that vessel is in fact Russian?

    Useless twats.

    *edit* I googled them and to drive the point more, they shared this back in September. The mind boggles as to how useless these people are. US Navy ships and weapon systems - Page 19 E_kwl-WXEAMCYQQ?format=jpg&name=medium

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    Post  Isos Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:51 pm

    I think they are doing this on purpose.
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    Post  Finty Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:45 am

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/asia/us-navy-littoral-combat-ships-pacific-south-china-sea-intl-hnk-ml-dst/index.html
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    Post  GarryB Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:50 am

    "It is a trade term for influence," Cmdr. Reann Mommsen said. "Without going into specifics, USS Gabrielle Giffords presence influenced operations throughout the South China Sea."


    Hahaha.. it got in the way during Chinese exercises... in the same way and old fishing Junk would have... love how when something fails they just lower the bar... and it suddenly becomes adequate...

    I'm not as clued up on ships as Aircraft but knowing their public affairs, I'm assuming that vessel is in fact Russian?

    That radar on top, and that rear facing twin 130mm gun mount... that is a Kirov class Russian cruiser.
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    Post  Finty Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:23 pm

    Christ, thanks for clarifying Gary.
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    Post  mnztr Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:16 am

    Yea i know they are updated but these ships look like antiques
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:30 am

    Good radars and decent range for their SAMs, which is important for defending carriers... something the British and French could do with...
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    Post  mnztr Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:30 am

    Nice to have for sure, but the SM-6 and Aegis are still kinda useless against even TU-22 with KH-22 (let alone KH-32 and Kinzhal) Not sure it can even defend against a salvo attack from an Oscar class
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:08 am

    A failed US ship design, first one now gone.
    I am pretty sure that Rolls Royce could rip out the propulsion and transmission and put something in to make it move fast... they wouldn't be terrible patrol boats at the very least...
    in fact, they could be very good OPVs:
    Littoral Combat Ships Would Make Great Coast Guard Cutters
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:03 am

    To be a coast guard cutter they would need to fix the propulsion problems to allow them to go faster than 12 knots.

    Suggesting they would make great coast guard ships is like saying the Ford class CVN would make an amazing coast guard ship.... or the F-35 would be a great lead in fighter trainer design...

    They designed something that was a challenge and a risk and it failed... their mistake was they assumed it would be successful and started serial production before they realised it was unworkable and could not be modified to achieve what they wanted it for, so they are passing it to a service that can use it to avoid the humiliation of scrapping brand new ships.

    I would say go talk to the British.... I would think with Rolls Royce engines and weapon systems installed replacing the systems that don't work and they could have some patrol boats to operate in their own waters to free up other ships to operate with their carriers... it just comes down to what sort of upgrades could they manage and how much it will all cost...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:02 am

    Fixing or replacing engines will still take less $ & time than procuring brand new OPVs.
    It's not the 1st time a CG of any nation got ships from its or a foreign navy.

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    Post  Finty Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:51 am

    https://news.usni.org/2021/12/16/carrier-uss-harry-s-truman-now-operating-in-the-mediterranean-uss-essex-in-gulf-of-aden

    The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group is now operating in the Mediterranean Sea after deploying earlier this month from the East Coast, Navy officials confirmed to USNI News on Thursday.

    USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75), the embarked Carrier Air Wing 1 and its escorts passed through the Strait of Gibraltar on Dec. 14 after deploying from Naval Station Norfolk, Va., on Dec. 1.

    The CSG crossed with the Royal Moroccan Navy’s Sigma-class frigate Allal Ben Abdallah (F 615), U.S. 6th Fleet said in a statement.

    The carrier’s entrance into the Mediterranean is the first time a carrier has been in the region since USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) made a brief six-day transit on a return trip to the East Coast from the Middle East in July, according to USNI News’ carrier deployment database. The Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group spent 25 days in March and April in the Mediterranean on its way to U.S. 5th Fleet.

    While in the Eastern Mediterranean in March, Eisenhower launched several strikes in support of the anti-ISIS Operation Inherent Resolve with aircraft from Carrier Air Wing 3.

    Truman’s deployment is the third for the carrier since mid-2018. The carrier did back-to-back deployments without a maintenance period. Following its return on June 16, 2020, Truman entered a 10-month availability that completed in May.

    Meanwhile, the Essex Amphibious Ready Group and the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit have departed the Persian Gulf and are now operating in the Gulf of Aden.

    The ARG/MEU deployed from the West Coast on Aug 12.

    The ARG is comprised of three ships: landing helicopter dock USS Essex (LHD-2), amphibious transport dock USS Portland (LPD-27) and amphibious dock landing ship USS Pearl Harbor (LSD-52).

    This week, Portland tested a laser weapon system against a stationary surface target.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:15 am

    Setbacks Aside, the First Ford-Class Super Carrier is Nearly Complete



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