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    S-70 "Okhotnik" UCAV

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    Post  LMFS Sat May 21, 2022 2:55 am

    Isos wrote:They should focus on Orion drones for now. It is a much more needed drone than this one for their actual conflicts.

    Better even, they do focus on both Wink

    Who says that long range interdiction would not be useful in the SMO? One Okhotnik sqd. on station over regions of Central and Western Ukraine would be much better against time critical target and deliver a much bigger payload to the targets than even Kalibr, together with the unique ability of retargeting and doing reconnaissance and SEAD at the same time. It would probably not be easy to detect it and much less track it, ukie radar stations would need to work overtime and give themselves away, besides the western AWACS would have a hard time getting them and warning targets / cueing AD against them. Armed with AAMs they could patrol around enemy air bases for much longer time and prevent UAVs and tactical planes from operating much more effectively than remote SAMs or fighters called on purpose. Against a severely degraded AD the stealth design would open many options which are currently not feasible and bring the use of air power to a new level in Ukraine, not to talk about the effect it would have in deterring or if needed actually visiting poles and other candidates to denazification across Europe...

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    Post  thegopnik Sun May 22, 2022 3:34 am

    Now all it needs is klevok-d2 for internal weapons for max kino.
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    Post  LMFS Fri May 27, 2022 3:00 pm

    Serial production for Okhotnik getting closer:

    At the aircraft factory in Novosibirsk will build a case for painting drones

    The project of the building will be ready in the spring of next year

    NOVOSIBIRSK, May 27. /tass/. A new building for special painting of unmanned aerial vehicles will be built at the Novosibirsk Aircraft Factory named after Chkalov, where, as previously reported, it is planned to start production of stealth drones "Okhotnik". The design of the building will be ready in the spring of next year, Igor Bochkarev, Executive Director of SibproektNIIaviaprom JSC, which is engaged in the design of the building, told reporters.

    "Now we plan to complete the work and come out with a positive conclusion of Glavgosexpertiza in the spring of next year. It is planned that about a year will be construction. This building is focused on painting the aircraft, then it goes to the flight test shop, and then goes to the military units, " Bochkarev said, adding that we are talking about the production of heavy drones.

    He added that some areas of production at NAZ im. Chkalov will be reconstructed for assembly. As an employee of the Research Institute Sergey Kazachev told reporters, a paint chamber will be located in the new building. The dimensions of the workshop are about 150 m long and 40 m wide. The process of applying paint to such devices is technologically very complex, and, according to Kazachev, requires a special temperature regime and regulation of air flows.

    Earlier, a government source told TASS that the plant will modernize production within five years with the construction of a new building for the production of S-70 Okhotnik heavy stealth unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). It was reported that modernization will begin in 2022, and the amount of investment will be about 2.5 billion rubles.

    NAZ im. Chkalova was founded in 1931. During the Great Patriotic War, it produced more than 15 thousand Yak-7 and Yak-9 fighters. Later, the plant was also focused on the production of military aircraft. Its main products are Su-34 front-line bombers, but the company also produces parts for SSJ-100 civilian passenger aircraft.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/14745787

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    Post  gc3762 Sat May 28, 2022 5:53 am

    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022/05/28/17822906.shtml

    The Russian heavy attack drone S-70B Okhotnik performed tests firing at ground targets with guided missiles, which are part of the Su-57 fighter's armament. This is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to an informed source.

    The interlocutor of the agency stressed that the first experimental model of the device as part of flight tests performed a series of guided missile firing.

    "Several types of air-to-surface missiles were used from the armament of the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter with a real defeat of ground targets," the source said.

    According to him, testing has shown that the device effectively hits small-sized camouflaged targets with missiles at different times of the day and in all weather conditions.

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    Post  Backman Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:16 am

    They should send the S-70 prototype into Ukraine to shoot some missiles. Just for the propaganda value. Like they did with su 57 prototypes in Syria. It would really piss off the haters. Maybe that was some advertising too. Which brings the question once again, will they export it ?

    I think they might in small amounts to a dedicated customer like Algeria.

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    Post  lyle6 Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:57 pm

    That's a guided bomb though. Specifically the KAB-500S.
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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:21 pm

    That's a guided bomb though. Specifically the KAB-500S.

    Not really a kab 500S which looks like this :

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    It looks like a unguided betab 500 :

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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:15 pm

    It´s just an old pic. In essence this news is not news. The whole philosophy of the Okhotnik is to use the weapons designed for the Su-57.

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    Post  Isos Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:34 pm

    Hole wrote:It´s just an old pic. In essence this news is not news. The whole philosophy of the Okhotnik is to use the weapons designed for the Su-57.

    Well they have the same interior (same weapon bays same software for weapons...) so it will be easy to test all the weapons they already tested on su-57.
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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:22 pm

    Because to that, the tests will go really fast. Maybe we see a video from an Okhotnik used in real combat soon.

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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:44 pm

    Hole wrote:Because to that, the tests will go really fast. Maybe we see a video from an Okhotnik used in real combat soon.

    Unlikely they send it in ukraine where they can loose it. Maybe it will launch missiles from russian airspace but nothing more.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:37 am

    They are making weapons, not fashion accessories... testing it against Ukraines defences is a good test, though they might not want serial models flying through airspace that HATO can monitor and gather information on... perhaps an expendable version to test some features, with corner reflectors to make it easy to spot and track... if the Orcs try to launch missiles at it it could retract the corner reflectors and test some towed jammers or disposable decoy defences... operating at high altitude it should be safe from most things the Orcs operate.

    It could practise hunting various things like enemy artillery or find comms centres and use its electronics and communications to good effect.

    Perhaps even testing dive bombing roles that would not be so safe for manned aircraft...
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    Post  Tolstoy Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:45 pm

    Hole wrote:It´s just an old pic. In essence this news is not news. The whole philosophy of the Okhotnik is to use the weapons designed for the Su-57.
    Okhotnik can be teamed up with Su-35 and Su -34. So once Okhotnik has carried out the SEAD operation then Su -35, Su -34 can carry out further strikes unhindered because the enemy's AD systems have already been destroyed by the Okhotnik.

    Therefore, going forward stealth fighter like Su-57 will not serve much purpose because manned stealth fighters will not be required.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:35 am

    Su-57 has better sensors and equipment but perhaps is not worth the risk for the extra capability over the Su-35 being used.

    The threat of HATO learning too much about its capabilities more than the risk of it getting intercepted.

    Testing and experience of operating the S-70 together with Su-35s and also Su-34s or Su-30s will be useful as long as they are sensible and careful not to take silly risks.

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:37 am


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    I felt like we were going to have another great space race but this time a competition between us and Turkey on who can get a stealth supersonic UAV operationational 1st but the funny problem is the Kızılelma drone needs to have Ukrainian engines which pretty much means I guess we cheated and might have the unmanned Su-75 fly 1st Laughing

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:25 am

    Low-observable engine exhaust on protoype #2, as widely expected. thumbsup

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    Post  franco Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:46 pm

    In the Novosibirsk region, serial production of the Okhotnik attack drone will begin within a couple of years. This was announced on April 25 by the deputy governor of the region Sergey Semka.

    "I think that [serial production of the drone] will begin in a couple of years," TASS quoted the deputy governor as saying.

    As reported on January 24, flight tests of the second model of the Okhotnik heavy strike unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) equipped with a flat nozzle will begin in the summer.

    Journalists of The Drive edition on December 14 last year noted a jump in the use of stealth technologies in Russia after the presentation of the upgraded S-70 Okhotnik attack drone. According to journalists, the drone should fit into the concept of air combat in cooperation with the fifth-generation Su-57 fighter.

    The roll-out of the first flight model of the S-70 Okhotnik was held at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant (NAZ) named after Chkalov on December 14. This is the first instance of a drone equipped with a flat jet nozzle. The drone differs in that it is extremely difficult to detect by radar methods.

    On the same day, military expert Viktor Murakhovsky told Izvestia that the Okhotnik UAV is a key development in the field of unmanned aviation for the Russian Aerospace Forces. According to him, the drone can conduct reconnaissance, give target designation, strike ground targets, fight enemy air attacks and patrol. The expert noted that the " Hunter "is made with elements of artificial intelligence, it will be possible to set general tasks for it, which the drone can perform independently.

    It is expected that the S-70 Okhotnik unmanned bomber will enter service with the Russian Army in 2024.


    https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.44a9f29f-6447bb7b-bc39e3b5-74722d776562/https/iz.ru/1503704/2023-04-25/v-novosibirskoi-oblasti-anonsirovali-proizvodstvo-udarnogo-bespilotnika

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    Post  BenVaserlan Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:13 pm

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:37 am

    There are rather a lot of flying wing type UCAVs and I think you mixed a few American aircraft in with your footage... especially the tests on US aircraft carriers... but otherwise very good.
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    Post  Arrow Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:38 pm

    Very Happy

    https://vk.com/video-206639135_456272310

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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:38 am

    Government trials of Okhotnik heavy combat drone to be over by yearend — source

    https://tass.com/defense/1658135

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    Post  limb Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:41 am

    Will the Su-34M and Su-35 be able to have a datalink with the okhotnik? Why does there need to be custom hardware architecture in order to create such a datalink, rather than just giving a software update?
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    Post  Isos Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:51 am

    limb wrote:Will the Su-34M and Su-35 be able to have a datalink with the okhotnik? Why does there need to be custom hardware architecture in order to create such a datalink, rather than just giving a software update?

    Because you communicate with other plateforms so you need electronics that can "speak" in the desired frequencies. You also need new computers for this since the ones in the plateforms use their for other stuff.

    However if your platform already has compatible electronics, then a software update is enough.

    Su-35 and su-34 were designed to communicate with other manned aircraft so their datalink is not optimized for UAV controlling. They will need a more powerful datalink that can share much more informations.

    The software is totally different and way more complicated. Aicraft share between them their positions, speed and targets they see. When connected with an UAV the pilot will need to share all this but also all the data about controlling the UAV and there will be more communication than with an aircraft thus you need a faster datalink so higher frequencies (new antenna and electronics).

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