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    Post  GarryB on Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:16 am

    It is normal for inservice aircraft and vehicles to get upgrades to keep them relevant... they cost money to keep in service so it makes sense to spend a little more to keep them useful.

    Also upgrades can replace old equipment that will get harder to maintain over time.

    If you don't understand this... think about trying to buy a Video cassette tape of a new movie coming out now... it is easier and cheaper to buy a flash RAM compatible TV than to get the movie and record it onto video tape to play on an old video tape recorder.

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    Post  George1 on Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:26 am

    The crisis state of the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy

    Article by Maxim Klimov: "The fiery sky of the Russian fleet. Without an effective and strong naval aviation, there can be no modern Navy" criticizing the development of the aviation component of the current Russian Navy.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3446895.html

    I would emphasize as one of biggest problems the lack of a multi-role naval helicopter. Ka-27 is an outdated machine
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    Post  Hole on Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:53 am

    Realy interesting that this BS "articles" are coming now and not ten years ago. Today they are out of date, with new Su-30SM and MiG-29K´s delivered, Il-38 and Ka-27 modernised and plans to modernise the Tu-142.
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    Post  eehnie on Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:18 am

    It is very interesting to note the high correlation between the recent words of I Kozhin and the Russian Maritime Doctrine of 2015:

    http://redstar.ru/po-puti-obnovleniya/

    - Igor Sergeyevich, if possible, indicate, please, the prospects for the development of naval aviation for a long period of time, for example, until 2050.
    - As I have already mentioned, in naval aviation it is planned to modernize the existing fleet of aircraft and their phased replacement with promising aviation complexes.

    The daily routine of sea pilots.  Photo Vadim Savitsky.

    At the first stage (until 2020), an active modernization of the existing aircraft fleet is carried out.  We are also talking about the replacement of special aircraft with new types of aircraft, the inclusion of assault and transport-assault ship-based helicopters (Ka-52K), naval unmanned aerial vehicles into the combat strength of the naval fighter aircraft units (MiG-29K / KUB).  In total, up to 2020 it is planned to supply more than 100 aircraft to the naval aviation of the Navy.

    At the second stage (2021–2030), the modernization of the entire fleet of naval aviation aircraft and helicopters and the re-equipment of coastal-based fighter-assault aviation aircraft will be continued. home base. Naval aircraft of the radar patrol, ship-based unmanned aerial vehicles, and a promising naval aviation complex should come into service with naval aviation.

    At the third stage (2031–2050), naval aviation is expected to switch to a new generation of multifunctional aircraft and adopt a new generation of high-precision air-based weapons systems; and patrol plane far zone.  Search and rescue helicopters of the amphibious class of the far zone will be created, including for operations in the Arctic and offshore Arctic seas.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7032p50-state-armament-program-2018-2027#211908

    Naval Aviation

    For the Russian Naval Aviation the focus in the first phase will be the development and serial production of an advanced maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) by 2020.

    Additionally, Russia will look to develop and produce a new shore/ship-based multirole helicopter (to replace the Ka-27) and acquire a ship-based combat helicopter (the Ka-52K). Russia will also seek to develop advanced airborne strike systems.

    The second phase will see the deployment of the new Russian ship-based radar surveillance aircraft, ship-based UAVs, and ship-based strike aircraft. The 2021-2030 period will see the Russian Naval Aviation transition to optionally piloted aircraft, including those derived from existing manned aircraft. Obsolete aircraft are to be replaced by modern, multirole manned and unmanned aircraft.

    During the 2031-2050 phase naval aviation focus will switch to a new generation of multirole aircraft and UAVs and field a new generation of airborne precision weapon systems.

    Fairly coincident, despite what many people has been saying against the enforcement of the Russian Maritime Doctrine of 2015. This is the right way to work.

    Habitually, the Russian Naval Aviation has not the best funding, something that makes difficult to keep the step of other branches, specially, the Russian Aerospace Forces, in terms of procurement of modern warfare.

    New technologies are opening many new options in the refered to the shipborne aerial platforms, both manned and unmanned. The Russian Naval Aviation must keep them at the best level. No-one else will do. In the future, the shipborne component of the Russian Naval Aviation will be much more important than until now.

    To turn strongly toward the new shipborne aerial platforms very likely will mean a strong impulse to the modernization of the Russian Naval Aviation and to raise strongly the capabilities of the Russian Naval Aviation.

    The Russian Naval Aviation must not fear standardization with the Russian Aerospace Forces. They can find advantages on it.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:00 pm

    The first heavy Russian drone passed flight tests: exclusive shots
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201809102300-w76k.htm
    https://www.ruaviation.com/news/2018/9/11/11930/?h

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B8%D1%80_(%D0%91%D0%9F%D0%9B%D0%90)#%D0%A2%D0%A2%D0%A5

    It's size is comparable with the E-2 & Yak-44:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_E-2_Hawkeye#Specifications_(E-2C/D)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-44#Specifications_(Yak-44E)

    The C-2 COD can carry even less cargo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_C-2_Greyhound#Specifications_(Reprocured_C-2A)

    They could be navalized & modified as AWACS & COD for for future UDKs/CVNs.
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    Post  franco on Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:04 pm

    Russia strengthened its air grouping near Kaliningrad

    February 02, 2019

    Russia has strengthened the military grouping in the Kaliningrad region by the Fighter Aviation Regiment in response to the buildup of NATO forces in the Baltic Sea region, a source familiar with the situation told Interfax on Saturday.

    “As part of the naval aviation of the Baltic Fleet (BF), a fighter regiment has been formed, which is armed with Su-27 aircraft,” he said.

    According to the interlocutor of the agency, the assault air regiment formed earlier is also part of the said compound.

    As previously reported by the press service of the Baltic Fleet, the other day “pilots of the fighter regiment of the naval aviation of the Baltic Fleet in the Kaliningrad region have mastered the piloting technique and elements of air combat on Su-27 aircraft.”

    In particular, the Su-27 fighters "discovered the target and worked out actions for the forced landing of a conditional enemy aircraft on the airfield."

    Earlier it was reported that the ground component of the forces in the Kaliningrad region — the 11th Army Corps of the Coastal and Land Forces of the Baltic Fleet — was reinforced by a tank regiment. Last year, the missile brigade near Kaliningrad was reequipped for Iskander-M operational tactical missile systems.

    NOTE:has been just a squadron over the past few years. Obviously a second squadron has been raised most likely from the best of the aircraft being replaced at Besovets by Su-35S's.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:48 am

    The defense Ministry told about the modernization of the deck fighter su-33

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201903110119-lb54.htm

    "The first round of upgrades done and now ready for a second, after which there will be increased engine power, improved detection systems, etc. su-33 will be truly multi-purpose",
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:06 pm

    LMFS wrote:The defense Ministry told about the modernization of the deck fighter su-33

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201903110119-lb54.htm

    "The first round of upgrades done and now ready for a second, after which there will be increased engine power, improved detection systems, etc. su-33 will be truly multi-purpose",

    They'll need a working carrier for it though.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:33 pm

    They are overhauling the Kuznetsov as far as I know, not scraping it
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:06 pm

    I think he is referring the uncertain aspect of after the floating dock sunk. Little news since. Even though zvezda yard could handle it.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:35 pm

    Ok I see. MoD said the schedule was not severely affected by the incident and that they had several options to handle the situation. In any case the K is planned to remain in operation for the foreseeable future so both MiG-29K and Su-33 will have a carrier from which to operate.

    I wonder what the updates for the Sukhois will be. Probably AL-41F1S TVC engines, maybe Irbis-E radar? Avionics should be revamped, probably unifying with Su-35S too? The resulting plane would be a naval fighter of serious capabilities. BTW using the data of the AL-41F1S and 33 tonnes as MTOW, together with F-18 derived aero data, plane could take off fully loaded from a short springboard TO run. Of course aero data is the flimsy part of the analysis but given the Su-33 has lifting body + canards my guess is that the low speed characteristics should not be much worse. If anyone has factual data about the following parameters it would be great:

    Optimal Speed (knots):
    Optimal AoA:
    Lift To Drag Ratio:
    Maximal Pitch Rate (deg/s):
    AoA Limit:

    On the other hand, not tragically relevant for A2A or the kind of A2G loadouts we have seen until now...
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    Post  medo on Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:30 pm

    Russia already restarted production of new AL-31F3 engines for Su-33, so those engines will be installed. New engines are not the same as those from nineties, but upgraded as the new AL-31F engines, what means FADEC, lower fuel consumption, longer service life. Most probably they could also increase the power of engines. AL-31F3 is navalized engine with better anti corrosion protection. Regarding radar, there is a good question, if they will upgrade existing radar to N001VEP level or replace it with a new radar. Engines are strong enough to operate Bars-R radar from Su-30SM. I think there is enough space for it and that Bars-R os not that much heavier than old N001 radar. After all, Bars-R is PESA radar and far better than Zhuk-M radar in MiG-29K.

    It is more than clear, that NAVY more prefer Su-33 than MiG-29K. But MiG-29K will be the one, which will operate from Kuz carrier. Modernization of Kuz is exactly for MiG-29K integration. Maybe just a small number of Su-33 will still serve on carrier, the rest will operate from ground airbases. They build airbases on Arctic islands and deep modernized Su-33 is the best fighter to operate there. It have stronger structure, better anti corosion protection, naval navigation complex for over the sea operations, folding wings for smaller shelters, etc.
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    Post  LMFS on Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:43 pm

    Thanks medo!
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:58 am

    I wonder what the updates for the Sukhois will be. Probably AL-41F1S TVC engines, maybe Irbis-E radar? Avionics should be revamped, probably unifying with Su-35S too? The resulting plane would be a naval fighter of serious capabilities.

    Yeah, don't expect too much with the Russian Navy... they wont spend a lot of money on an upgrade to a fighter that will be land based for the next 2-3 years.

    They could certainly spend a lot and make it a powerful fighter, but past experience suggests they just want a fighter that can reach out and touch and it can already do that pretty good.

    It is more than clear, that NAVY more prefer Su-33 than MiG-29K.

    Not sure how you can assert that... the Su-33s are getting an upgrade because they need one... MiG-29KR are not because they are still pretty much brand new...

    It is amusing though because in the US Navy there was the same bickering regarding the F-14 and the F-18... same arguments... quite amusing... except in this case these two aircraft are of the same generation.
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    Post  LMFS on Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:39 am

    The explanation submitted by medo makes sense to me:
    - RuN has already two sqd. of the MiG-29K. They are brand new and enough for the Kuznetsov, in fact I don't know if it has ever carried more than 2 sqd. worth of fighters on board.
    - Turning Su-33 into a multirole fighter may allow it to cover the same roles of Su-30 but in the Arctic as exposed by medo. It would not be bad for covering the big Arctic coast to have planes that are based on land but can eventually use the K. And keeping them only as back-up for the K really makes no sense.

    In any case an update of the Su-33 means they have a lot of operational life in front of them, that is not what I expected.
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    Post  dino00 on Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:28 pm

    Aircraft one Mach: fighters induce hypersonic missiles

    Navy pilots will be taught to share information about potential targets with each other, ships and headquarters in real time


    The latest Russian missiles "Zircon", "Onyx" and "Caliber" will be aimed at the target deck fighters. Su-33 and MiG-29KR in real time will be able to transmit information about the likely enemy ships, ground bases and higher headquarters, as well as receive information from them, told "Izvestia" in the Ministry of Defense. Thanks to the new system, pilots will not only be able to hit air, sea and land targets on their own, but also direct cruise missiles to these objects. One fighter jet missile volley is capable of sending an enemy aircraft carrier to the bottom. The first phase of work will be completed at the end of this - the beginning of next year.

    After the introduction of a new aviation system, sea fighters will become effective reconnaissance aircraft: they will be able not only to warn ships and air defense systems in advance about the appearance of an air enemy, but also to provide target indications for cruise missiles, S-400, S-500 air defense systems and naval anti-aircraft missiles. MiG-29KR and MiG-29KUBR have already received information exchange systems, the Su-33 is currently preparing for modernization, told “Izvestia” in the military department.

    Full article
    https://iz.ru/855829/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/avianosetc-odnim-makhom-istrebiteli-navedut-giperzvukovye-rakety
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    Post  LMFS on Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:24 am

    Impossible! Only the F-35 can do such tricks... right?? affraid

    Looking good. So the RuN will probably fuse the radar views of their fighters to create an improved view of the battlefield. It is yet to see whether they consider the AWACS necessary, but with this solution even the K could have reasonable air control capabilities far from the ship in short term and without additional planes or EMALS. Further evolution needs to be seen though.

    They say nothing about the fighters carrying such missiles, but we had news in the past about the Brahmos getting an improved air launch version for the PAK-FA:

    "We are working on the missile’s light version. It should fit the size of a torpedo tube and be almost 1.5 times smaller by its weight. It will be possible to mount our airborne missile on a wide range [of aircraft]. Of course, we’ll be developing it, first of all, for the fifth-generation plane but, possibly, it will be mounted on the MiG-35 fighter, although we have not carried out such developments,"


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/927705

    It seems to me Russia is getting serious about their blue water navy after all.

    EDIT: dino00, if you dont mind I quote some interesting excerpts:

    Modified MiGs and Sukhoi will be able to report the position of the enemy in real-time to ships, higher headquarters and land bases. All fighter radars will fall into a single control system (ESU) of the Navy, which online forms interactive map of the area where operate naval forces, coastal forces or army units.

    If necessary, a summary of the information received by the ESU from other planes, ships, defense and intelligence, will come to the pilots, making the sortie. This will allow pilots to choose the best tactics in the solution of fighting tasks.

    In fact, the upgraded aircraft will include in the information space fleet, says military expert Dmitry Boltenkov.

    — The new system will help you correctly choose the tactics of attack used ammunition. In the absence of ammunition to pass the target to another plane, to "highlight" it for the cruise missiles, — told "Izvestia" Dmitry Boltenkov.

    The new system will seriously enhance the effectiveness of cruise missile strikes and actions of aircraft, ships, submarines in the solution of combat missions, according to a former chief of staff of the Navy, Admiral Valentin Selivanov.

    — Any possibility to correctly classify the target and to accurately determine their coordinates means a lot — it allows commanders to make a decision that guarantees the destruction of the ships of the potential enemy, ' said Valentin Selivanov.

    Arming and equipping naval aviation is given special attention. Arsenal MiG-29КР/KUBRA will soon join missiles X-31. "Thirty-first" will be able to impress not only the court and the ships of the enemy, but to destroy the coastal radar station. Thanks to the supersonic speed of Kh-31 is virtually invulnerable to air defense and in military slang was called "supersonic death". To send to the bottom of the carrier, only one missile volley of a link of fighters.




    Edit:Translators often change Sukhoi to Dry... fixed for you... article clearly shows their equivalent of AEGIS works down to aircraft level in terms of collecting information and sharing it amongst the forces so information from a fighter can be passed to all assets including subs and ships and other aircraft so a fighter can now act like a Tu-142 and find targets for attack...
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    Post  LMFS on Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:40 am

    Thanks to Austin for this one:

    Su-33 To Begin 2nd Phase of Upgrade While Russia Mulls Carrier Options


    https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-04-10/su-33-begin-2nd-phase-upgrade-while-russia-mulls-carrier-options

    “With the first phase of the modernization now complete, we are preparing for the second phase, centering on higher engine thrust, improved detection system, and the like so as to make the Su-33 a truly multi-role aircraft,” Major General Igor Kozhin, chief for aviation with the Russian navy, told journalists. This effort may not apply to all surviving aircraft and rather involve only those airframes that have sufficient lifetime remaining, so as to keep them operational until 2025, he clarified.

    Reportedly, the modernization plan also calls for secure data exchange in real time between the Su-33 and MiG-29K/KUB fighters. For cost-efficiency, the aged aircraft is likely to retain its original N-001 Mech radar, but its functionality will be extended through technology insertions already tested on similar equipment in Russian Air and Space Force Su-27SM3 and Su-30M2 aircraft. That includes the ability to engage two aerial targets simultaneously with radar-guided missiles, as well as ground-mapping.

    The Russian navy received about 30 Su-33s before production terminated in 1999. Up to 20 of them have undergone the “first phase” of the modernization at the Sukhoi manufacturing plant in Komsomolsk-upon-Amur, and Aircraft Repair Plant no. 20 in Pushkino. They feature satellite-aided navigation, a new radar warning receiver, and the SVP-24-33 computing system for accurate strikes with free-fall bombs. The second phase of the upgrade extends the Su-33’s arsenal through the addition of precision-guided munitions.

    The original Su-33 is powered by two AL-31F Series 03 turbofans each developing 28,220 pounds (125.6 kN) of thrust in full afterburner. New engines will provide 29,760 pounds of thrust, as well as burn less fuel with an extended time between overhaul and lifetime through the replacement of the analog control system by a digital one. Higher thrust will enable the Su-33 to perform ski-ramp takeoffs from Kuznetsov at a higher gross weight.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:37 am

    Well a floating carrier that operates along the northern route from the north sea fleet to the pacific fleet and back is an interesting idea... useful for training but also interesting because land based inflight refuelling aircraft could assist and support such aircraft too and extend their range along the northern Russian border.

    An Su-33 with a Zircon missile could attack AEGIS class ships in the arctic out to useful distances too...

    The fact is that they have them, so they might as well use them...

    And with MiG unifying the design of the MiG-29KR and MiG-35 means as long as they keep producing MiG-35s they can relatively easily crank out more MiG-33s if they need any without the cost of having to set up production... a pretty clever idea...
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    Post  LMFS on Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:26 pm

    GarryB wrote:The fact is that they have them, so they might as well use them...
    Exactly. Turning them into multirole machines with increased flexibility for what navy may need in a given situation is just a matter of avionics and hence relatively cheap compared to the whole cost of a naval fighter program.

    They say they should remain in service until 2025, we will see but even with MiG-29K and early stages of PAK-KA I don't think it hurts to put some Su-35S engines and radars on the Su-33s and keep them operational for longer time, given they are heavy, long ranged and hence valuable planes. Maintenance shops need to be provided with workload and we talk about a low number of airframes in any case.
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    Post  medo on Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:51 pm

    Su-33 modernization now come to logical conclusion. In phase 2 Su-33 will get new build AL-31F series 3 engines with increased thrust, FADEC, longer service life and lower fuel consumption. They will be operational for another 20+ years without a problem. Radar will be upgraded to domestic N001VEP version like in Su-30M2 and Su-27SM3. Radar N001VEP track 10 targets and engage 4 targets simultaneously, but this is oftenly mixed with older N001VE radar, which could engage 2 targets simultaneously. Export N001VEP, like that in Venezuelan Su-30MK2 have a range of 300 km, could detect F-16A block 15 at 160 km and another Su-30 at 220 km. Domestic one is for sure more capable and have some additional modes of working comparing to export ones. I hope they will olso replace old IRST with newer one with TV channel and laser target designator. TV channel could be also used for longer range visual ID of target. New guided armament, like long range missiles KH-35U for anti-ship role and KH-59MK2 (older or newer stealth) for air to ground role with range of around 300 km, will give quite a long hand strike capabilities comparing to MiG-29K.

    Maybe in phase 2 modernization, Su-33 cockpit will become more similar to the one in Su-30M2 or Su-27SM with two or three MFDs.
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:42 am

    Great overview, thanks!

    Those improvements would not configure a "state of the art" plane but at least one suitable for combat, and that is in essence the goal of the ongoing modernization of the armed forces, to field credible capabilities that provide a return to the country in form of peace and stability. Operating obsolete naval fighters with no real combat capabilities is just a waste of money
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:57 am

    Yeah, you are ignoring that this is the Russian Navy we are talking about, and long range strike is not what their carriers are for.

    In terms of strike, the original 1980s MiG-33 (MiG-29K) was fully multirole, and therefore capable of air to air as well as air to ground and air to sea operations with a wide range of guided weapons, but the Russian Navy rejected it for the Su-33 which had no guided air to ground or sea weapons... just basic AAMs and dumb unguided bombs and rockets... it was purely an air to air aircraft... and did not even include R-77 like the MiG-33 did, but it had long range and lots of external pylons to put AAMs on.

    The Indian order for MiGs created an opportunity where they could piggyback an order for new model MiG-29KR aircraft, which were again called MiG-29Ks, but are totally different with a different base aircraft design unified between single and twin seat models, and completely upgraded avionics and systems... they just paid the production costs and avoided the setting up production and tooling costs, which were basically paid for by the Indian order.

    Their problem of course is such small orders makes aircraft purchases enormously expensive... a bit like getting 6 cars made... it is quicker and easier and cheaper to custom make each one. You could set up a production line to build them much cheaper per car if you were making tens of thousands of them, but not for such a small amount.

    That is why I suggest the future fighter from carriers should be also land based and widely produced to keep costs down... I mean they both basically do the same thing, but one does it from the middle of the ocean... STOL is useful, STOVL is expensive and unnecessary for land forces simply because any stretch of motorway will do...
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    Post  medo on Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:44 am

    Actually there is one difference between now and Soviet times. Back than they need good air to air fighter to protect naval operations with submarines over North Atlantic and Su-33 have longer range, radar with longer range and missiles R-27ER/ET with longer range, than MiG-29K.

    Now the situation is different, as Arctic sea become more important because of northern sea route. Russia build and rebuild new whole year air bases in Arctic islands, where new multirole Su-33 is best suited for them. They will be supported by Il-78 fuel tankers to increase their range. Il-78 is also planed to be stationed in Zemlja Aleksandra islands together with a group of fighters. Su-33 will not only give long range air to air protection as this role will be shared with MiG-31BM in Arctic bases, but also air to sea patrols with anti-ship missiles and to support arctic brigades with air to ground strikes.

    Role of carrier Kuznetsov in Northern Atlantic air defense will now become lower as they will be covered by Arctic islands air bases, so multirole MiG-29K/KUB would be good enough for them, specially as MiG-29K is smaller than Su-33 and could be easily whole squadron of 12 jets on the carrier and in need whole regiment with enough weapons to do their tasks. Carrier's role nove will be support of naval group on longer voyage or to increase Arctic protection, where needed.
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:44 pm

    @GarryB

    IMO the navy themselves are dispelling those doubts about strike role being required, and I am not even disputing that doing it 'USN-style' is not their primary goal at all. They want strike role for all their naval fighters and that is a fact, be it because of a doctrinal modification or simply because now the time is right to get such capacities at a relatively cheap price or because of re-deployment as medo submits. They are talking  specifically about linking all their fighters and radars so that they can target enemy ships far from the fleet. They have talked about air launched versions of ASMs too. They are getting ready for naval battles where RuN sinks enemy vessels with direct participation of its naval aviation. And I don't see anything flawed in it to be honest, it is like having a battery tool and refusing to use it for drilling because you just want it to turn screws... bad used investment IMO.

    Besides look at the actual combat experiences. If you were a navy planer and look at your intended capabilities, you would necessarily see that despite all the air defence role, the type of mission that actually happened and can in fact happen relatively often is like the Syrian deployment. There naval fighters were actively used in strike role. It would be absurd to put 400 strike sorties on those airframes or include strike avionics in the Su-33 if such role was of no interest at all for the navy.

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