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    Post  George1 Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:05 am

    Interesting. A mystery finally solved

    Location of submarine that sank 50 years ago established in France


    The Minerve submarine is not far from Toulon

    PARIS, July 22. /TASS/. The search group of France’s Ministry for the Armed Forces managed to spot the Minerve submarine that had gone missing on January 27, 1968, Minister for the Armed Forces Florence Parly reported on Monday.

    The submarine is not far from Toulon — a major French naval base in the Mediterranean. "We have discovered the Minerve submarine. It is a great success, a technical exploit, as well as a relief to the relatives of the deceased," the minister said on her Twitter page. Parly offered condolences to the relatives and friends of the deceased "who had to wait for this news for so long."

    The submarine that was training to cooperate with a maritime reconnaissance plane sank in 1968. Despite the immediately launched search and rescue operation, the submarine was not detected. There were 52 crew on board. A special autonomous underwater vehicle belonging to the French Research Institute for Exploitation of the Sea (INFREMER) was employed in the search. It is capable of collecting data on an area of 10 square kilometers daily.

    https://tass.com/world/1069829
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    Post  thegopnik Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:27 pm

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    I heard there was a reference to "wise heads" from someone at 0:25.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:30 pm

    @thegopnik

    I think these elongated skulls were result of practice of head binding. Same as foot binding in China. The real mystery is why it existed in diverse populations in the world. It seems that this practice must have been very ancient. Pre- dating of human colonisation of Americas. In early pre-history.

    Now I am posting again a bizzare experience of mine here. For light hearted but serious discussion. As I said on morning that Iranian General was assassinated by drone. A Merlin flew into my house and brought a dead dove with it. It sat down on it, and started to eat it. This never happened to me, in my life. And I thought it could be a portent. But did not know what it was. Until early next day, when I heard news. In morning. How can you explain such events? I heard about other very rare or impossibly rare events. I think Occam's Razer explains that :

    If an event is impossible, then whatever other event remains, however improbable, must be true.  But then I thought that could a reverse Occam's razer be true also. That is if an event is improbable, then whatever remains must be possible......... ( necessary or causally linked)? Has anyone else had such experiences?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:36 pm

    We know that cranial capacity is related with intelligence and we do know that East Asians despite their smallest frame have bigger brain volumes because their skulls developed further.
    The changes though, have to do with the widened not the elongation of the skull. Have resulted to wider bone frame for women in the abdomen area to carry babies with bigger heads and the widened of the jaws.

    These enhancements improve the brain size in the frontal part of the brain where the evolution focus, since this part is responsible for the cognitive ability, unlike other parts of the brain which are related with the memory, the emotions and the reflexes, with minor impact in modern world. All in all these improvements give some 10% bigger brain size for the same body frame. All of these are of course well documented in medical science.

    No Jews have non of the above, they are middle eastern people with typical low IQ's. The higher intelligence that is indeed documented to the Ashke-nazi Jews are mostly attributed to centuries of selective breeding, but shall minimize pretty quickly now that these selective breeding habits don't exist anymore.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:06 pm

    How do you know Middle Easterners have low IQs?

    They were the ones who invented agriculture, writing, cities and a whole lot of other things. Poverty of modern day Middle East is likely due to structural and cultural reasons more than anything else.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:25 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:How do you know Middle Easterners have low IQs?

    They were the ones who invented agriculture, writing, cities and a whole lot of other things. Poverty of modern day Middle East is likely due to structural and cultural reasons more than anything else.

    It is mostly due to the borders designed by western countries. And not only middle east but also all africa.

    Their countries are full of different group (ethnical, religious...) that spend their time fighting togather.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:08 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:How do you know Middle Easterners have low IQs?

    They were the ones who invented agriculture, writing, cities and a whole lot of other things. Poverty of modern day Middle East is likely due to structural and cultural reasons more than anything else.

    Yeah, the Greeks and the Chinese also did lots of great things. You are missing some essential knowledge: there is too much inbreeding in the ME countries:

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/muslim-inbreeding-huge-problem-and-people-dont-want-talk-about-it

    Over time such social behaviour degrades the average IQ of the population. So this is not just knee-jerk racism. This is objective criticism.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:58 pm

    I watched a program on Pakistan and the growing problems with mental issues due to inbreeding.

    Muslim nations marry their first cousins. Most at least. I know nations like Egypt frown upon that. But North Sudan, Pakistan and the like have major issues with inbreeding.
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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:23 am



    Brain eating amoebae. Nice.

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    Post  nomadski Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:18 pm

    Inbreeding exists in Jewish community too. As Jews rarely marry non Jews. I remember this has led to some exclusive diseases. Among Muslims, rightly has been said, marriage to close relatives allowed. Leading to deformity and disease. But unfortunately among these religious groups, they hold on to antiquated practices. With no basis in science at times. This strict adherence or religious dogma, is encouraged by those in power. Since old religion text, does not provide concise modern scientific or medical or social discourse. Therefore it does not disrupt the status quo. Keeps the minority in power. So we have to be brave, and say Islam or Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism or Aristotle or Plato or Marx....... Can be wrong !

    I don't think myself that brain size itself is alone important. It has to do with how much is free for information processing. Also how many connections are there. But again, most animals now becoming extinct, tend to have larger brains. Including humans. So is large brain good, or a disability?

    Another bizzare experience of mine, is that as I am growing older, time seems to be speeding up. It started in my forties. Now at sixty, one week has the same length of time as say did  one day. When I was twenty!  Does this mean that at the point of death, my perception of time will be almost zero. Events speeding up. I will glimpse the end of universe ? Any others like this? Maybe Amoebae attacked my brain....

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_intelligence
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    Post  George1 Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:55 pm

    Asteroid approaching Earth poses no serious danger, Roscosmos says


    The minimal distance between Earth and Asteroid 163348 (2002 NN4) will be 5.09 million kilometers, which is "too large to speak about any serious danger"


    MOSCOW, June 5. /TASS/. Asteroid 163348 (2002 NN4) will approach Earth on Saturday but is unlikely to hit it, Russian space corporation Roscosmos told TASS Friday.

    "According to information we have, the minimal distance between Earth and Asteroid 163348 (2002 NN4) will be 5.09 million kilometers," the state corporation said. This would be closer than the distance that asteroid 52768 (1998 OR2) reached in late April 2020 (about 6 million kilometers).

    According to Roscosmos, "this distance is too large to speak about any serious danger. The space corporation underscored that the scientists watch such objects closely, and therefore "various surprises are very unlikely here."

    Earlier, NASA reported that asteroid 163348 (2002 NN4) with a diameter between 250 and 570 meters will approach Earth by 5.1 million kilometers and pass by at the speed of 11.1 kilometers per second on June 6.

    https://tass.com/science/1164567

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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:51 pm

    Videos: Scientists Rediscover Chameleon Last Seen Over a Century Ago

    Voeltzkow's chameleon (Furcifer voeltzkowi), a unique and evasive species, has been rediscovered by German researchers in its natural habitat of Madagascar some 100 years after it seemingly disappeared.

    A research paper authored by Frank Glaw and published in the Salamandra German Journal of Herpetology on October 30 announced that German researchers in Madagascar had rediscovered F. voeltzkowi “in its natural habitat close to its type locality” while on “a targeted expedition.”

    “Our rediscovery expedition was conducted at the end of the rainy season from 25 March to 3 April 2018 in the Mahajanga region in northwestern Madagascar,” the report detailed.

    Within months, a chameleon of the species will hatch during the rainy season, grow rapidly, spar, mate and die. Female F. voeltzkowi in particular are said to exude colorful patterns while encountering males, pregnant or stressed.





    https://sputniknews.com/environment/202011031080962006-videos-scientists-rediscover-chameleon-last-seen-over-a-century-ago-/

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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:47 am



    I am sure if Douglas Adams knew about this he would have included it in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

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    Post  nomadski Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:22 pm

    Interesting series of interviews regarding nature of human consciousness. In my view the phenomenon of pre-cognitive dreams , telepathy, remote viewing  and premonitions and visions  ( people who report ghosts), ESP and prophecy explain the same process, possible only if human ( and some domestic animals ) thoughts ( souls) exist outside of our time and space in another dimension. And that our thoughts can relate or communicate and have perceptions of their own in this domain. At times two souls align and communicate their contents, and respective human brains pick up these communications. Mishlove's " New thinking allowed" interviews are recommended.

    https://youtu.be/phVDnZB-iYg

    https://youtu.be/30JTeWttTac

    Edit : Reincarnation ( documented in a few newborn infants), could be viewed as a class of remote viewing ( documented in many crime investigations), that affects the very young. The viewer mistakenly believing by others to be the dead person reincarnated. Instead of  a prolonged remote viewing experience. A Communion of souls and not the reincarnation of souls. Since God is not short of a few fresh souls..
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    Post  11E Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:48 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:How do you know Middle Easterners have low IQs?

    They were the ones who invented agriculture, writing, cities and a whole lot of other things. Poverty of modern day Middle East is likely due to structural and cultural reasons more than anything else.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F1svlxx.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
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    Post  lyle6 Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:56 pm

    kvs wrote:

    I am sure if Douglas Adams knew about this he would have included it in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    >The smartest fish has the longest nose
    Fucking kek. Razz

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:43 am

    Another bizzare experience of mine, is that as I am growing older, time seems to be speeding up. It started in my forties. Now at sixty, one week has the same length of time as say did one day. When I was twenty! Does this mean that at the point of death, my perception of time will be almost zero. Events speeding up. I will glimpse the end of universe ? Any others like this? Maybe Amoebae attacked my brain....

    Just a natural consequence of getting old. When you were 20 you only had about 15 years worth of life experience you could remember... probably even less. Now you are 60 you have 55-50 years of experience and memories to remember so of course you are going to forget some minor things, and also in comparison to your life experience one year and one week is becoming a shorter and shorter period of time.

    There are all sorts of beliefs regarding death and what the end of life holds for us, and there are certainly lots of people who have died and been resuscitated that we can talk to, but most of the time their experience seems to be seeing a bright light, which mean interpret as being heaven or the way to heaven or angels or some such thing. I have been hit in the face before by a soccer ball and I saw a bright light... nothing to do with death or religion, and everything to do with a physical impact near the eyes that led to some sort of signal being sent down the optical nerve that my brain interpreted as being a bright light because that is what the optic nerve is there to detect... if it had hit my ear I probably would have heard a loud impact noise... even though the actual impact noise would not be that impressive and certainly no light was actually created by the ball.

    Having said that I can't honestly tell you what happens after death... does a caterpillar have any idea of what a butterfly is and that that is what it will become?

    Does a tadpole realise it is destined to be a frog, or an egg a bird or reptile.

    Anybody who tells you they know are liars, and therefore any discussion becomes pretty empty and circular very quickly... and having faith or not having faith means nothing either way.

    The caterpillar becomes a butterfly whether they believe they will or not... faith does not come in to it... and why would it?

    It is a bit silly to think only caterpillars that are good and pray to the giant turtle on which this planet stands will become a butterfly... all the rest will become worms or snails or something...
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    Post  nomadski Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:32 pm

    @ 1 1E

    The wealthiest nations won the greater number of Olympic gold . This has nothing to do with innate or genetic superiority . The IQ measure ,  is about  developed mental ability because of educational opportunity . To measure accurately  then any possible genetic determinants of intelligence , one must compare different racial groups within identical environments .

    @ IYle6

    The developed part of fish is actually the mouth . The nose are the two small dots above this .

    @ GarryB

    Thanks for remembering . About death , my personal view is that , strangely I never remember being dead . Or being dead and then coming to life . To me I  was never dead , since I would remember coming to life .
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:39 pm

    @Garry

    The annoying thing is that as one gets older the brain gets better at filtering out external information. This is why, in my opinion,
    the flow of time appears to increase. We basically get a coarser time sampling interval.

    I also think the human lifespan is way too short. Some people claim that it is right sized but I have not heard any real arguments
    to back this up. Only in cheesy James Bond movies is the productivity of some mastermind so high that they can achieve country-level
    exploits in a few years. In the real world almost nothing can be done by an individual in a few years. Humans are able to breed
    like rabbits but are not able to live all that long. I would exchange the latter restriction for the former excess.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:53 am

    Humans are able to breed
    like rabbits but are not able to live all that long. I would exchange the latter restriction for the former excess.

    Don't you love the irony... two athiests wishing there was a god and that god created everything because with creation there is more speed in development and less need for trash prototyping that actually took place.

    It took billions of years of trial and error and an ideal environment to result in us, but now that we are here we want to live longer and reproduce less to compensate... well perhaps that is what science is for... extending life spans dramatically... not just that of course... massively improving the quality of life... people are less than 10 years old... different things are recycled and rebuilt at different rates but after about 10 years everything has been replaced, but as you get older the replacement becomes worn out so skin is no longer elastic and soft as it once was... it gets thin and wrinkled... hairlines recceed and stomachs get bigger... there is no obvious reason for that except to force the older members of the group to turn to lighter duties like caring for children and making clothes while the younger members of the group do the hard work of finding food and building shelters etc etc. With a bit of science and technology you could be 21 years old for the rest of your life and that life could be hundreds of years.... but as you point out we are the result of blind serial production errors, so production continues even when the quality of the product improves and its durability and survivability increases.

    We need to change to a different model with quality of life rather than volume production to try to get a few good examples that are keepers.

    Imagine a future where babies are robots to fill the human need of having a child without the issues of over population and population control in places and situations where resources and food and water are not abundant enough to sustain a large population....
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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:56 am

    Thanks for remembering . About death , my personal view is that , strangely I never remember being dead . Or being dead and then coming to life . To me I was never dead , since I would remember coming to life .

    Well our existence and experience of this universe comes via our sensors in this universe... perhaps death is merely disconnecting our soul from this universe... meaning we feel, hear, smell, touch, taste... sense... experience nothing... but perhaps we can connect to another "body" another set of senses... perhaps memories of this is where the idea of angels and ghosts comes from... we simply don't know... but we will find out... it comes to everyone in their time.

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    Post  limb Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:51 am

    Its both amazing and sad that entire families of organisms can barely fossilize over hundreds of millions of years.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:04 pm

    We don't notice most of the fossils... the white cliffs of Dover... sand stone... and of course oil...
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    Post  limb Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:37 pm

    GarryB wrote:We don't notice most of the fossils... the white cliffs of Dover... sand stone... and of course oil...
    Those are the most common fossils. Actually fossilization of anything other than shells happens incredibly rarely. There was a study that if the entire population of the US died suddenly, on the territory of the US only around 60 dead humans would be fossilized.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:42 am

    @ Limb

    About wings . How did the Dinosaurs learn to fly ? Did they get up one morning and decide to evolve wings over the next million years ? And the ancient Angler fish . Did it decide to evolve an artificial lure , over the next million years ? A few feathers don't make a wing . A lump on the Fish's back , don't make a lure . It seems pointless to spend energy developing these appendages for an organism . That had no apparent use , especially for the Fish . Is it a sign for intelligent design ? Or a sign for random events ? Occurring by chance . The probability of an event can be calculated . But if it is so low , as to approach zero , then that event is not by chance . They discovered the footprints of early humans in Rocks in England , dating back 800,000 years . But the story was quickly put into storage , out of view . Since it would take the bread out of many university professor's mouths . Those who say humans came out of Africa some 40,000 years ago . There may be many hidden Fossils .

    @ Garry B

    "....….it comes to everyone in their time......."

    Agree . Once you are young , many rare but important incidents are missed . They are experienced later . But once they happen , then they change the nature of reality for the person . As one example in my case . Not long ago , I moved to a new house . My next door neighbour started to harrass me badly . I warned him , but it got worse . At this time , I was attending a local activity club , at night . There I met a woman , who only attended for one session . For some reason this woman started to talk to me about philosophy . And said that she had psychic ability ! Our conversation then turned to my troublesome neighbour . And I said to this woman , that I would not mind doing some damage to this neighbour , an offensive and rude man !

    She then said  that all I had to do , is to think of doing harm to him in my mind ! I did not think much about this at the time . But in the later months , one night it came to my mind . As my neighbour was still causing problems , I decided to follow the advice of this woman . At night , I sat down , and in my mind , thought that I wanted him to be harmed !

    A week later , I decided very strangely to buy my local newspaper . You must understand that I very rarely buy this paper . Perhaps less than once a year . I was looking through the pages , when I noticed that this neighbour had been arrested and convicted for a crime and put away for fifteen years ! His house became vacant and his family also moved out . As his crime was a crime of a bad sort !

    The probability of such events occurring by chance must be so low , as to be impossible . Yet it is hard for me also to think of them being caused in this way . If causally linked then it points out to the fact that human thought and consciousness and material events are linked in very strange ways . Stranger than fiction . I wonder if any posters here have any strange experiences ?

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