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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:44 pm

    I have religious friends who believe they have prayed for things that have come true, but to be honest I just put it down to sometimes good things happen and sometimes bad things happen... what happens between our ears regarding such things is about as important as what is happening between the ears of your dog or cat.

    I am sure most dogs are praying for lockdowns because they get more walks than they normally get... and of course dog spelt backwards is...

    Coincidences are just that...

    I can squint and it feels like my eardrums vibrate and when I did that once I managed to guess three Lotto balls as they were drawn... I was so surprised I stopped and have never tried to use this "ability" to win Lotto... I say because it would not be fair, but really it happened three times on three balls, but odds are it might never happen again and the feeling I might be able to do it in the future if I need it feels much better than trying to do it and finding I can't.

    When I buy a lotto ticket I never check it... I leave it for a week or so and just pretend I might have the winning ticket, but someone always mentions it wasn't won that week or someone in a big city to the north won it.... the chances of winning are so low it is really all about the potential to win more than anything else.

    I don't begrudge religion... it is a source of comfort for many going through difficult times, I just have trouble believing some of the stuff they believe in order to get such comfort.
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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:58 pm


    Not taking about religion or God . But human consciousness . Now I am not a statistician , but probability of these events I described being causally linked are astronomically low . But they have a low non-zero value , meaning that they can probably exist , or do probably exist . Events with such low probability do not exist at macro - level , that we study normally using statistics . But they seem normal for small scale quantum events . Electrons and sub-atomic particles . Our Brains could emit or receicve these signals , according to quantum theory .


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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:21 pm

    I think reality has more than one layer as far as humans are concerned. Our perception only scratches one of them.

    The spooky correlations are not unphysical. Quantum mechanics appears to be the base of matter-energy and likely
    space-time as well. The so-called classical limit where magically all the quantum mechanics properties get washed out
    at larger scales is basically BS. There may be some averaging effect but it cannot totally hide the fuzzy and nonlocal
    underlying reality. Macroscopic quantum entanglement must exist. So all "observers" are entangled with all the other
    physical systems and each other and this entanglement is all about "spooky action at a distance" that "violates" the
    speed of light.

    There is interesting cosmological research on this subject:

    https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/somethingdeeplyhidden/

    https://arxiv.org/a/carroll_s_1.html

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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:24 pm

    I think that Americans and Russians both conducted studies . Some results may be secret . But some were leaked . I may be having skillz  ! I thought about doing harm to this man , and he went to prison , shortly after . Like the film , Men who stare at Goats .


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-PXWlnwtZU



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:55 am

    Our Brains could emit or receicve these signals , according to quantum theory .

    Well I can say that for most people what they want to happen does not normally happen so I would say most brains do not perform at that level.

    Your brain on the other hand seems to have scored one success... but what can we make of this?

    Was it your strongest wish for something bad to happen to this man... have you wish other things to happen but they did not happen... I mean George Bush and Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton don't seem to have suffered enough for your brain to have "done" something to them.

    Perhaps a chemical combination of food intake at the time, or a state of heightened consciousness on your part or on his made this happen... it is difficult to say without removing your brain and cutting it into small cross sections for examination.... Twisted Evil

    But imagine being able to build an AI organic computer with special powers... I am sure the Americans have probably tried.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:11 pm

    I do not know the answers . Assuming that these events were causally related , makes sense but runs counter to my normal experience . Assuming that these events were not related supports my normal experience , but makes no sense .

    This event is not normal for the individual . They are very rare . But taken collectively  , they seem to happen frequently enough to support the ideas echoed by quantum theory . Scientists so far do not know how this process works , although they make use of it . Similar to a car driver , who makes use of the car , without knowing how a car works .

    But I was thinking , about the why . Why would it be better for the universe , to become particulate only temporarily to allow observation , rather than remain particulate in a permanent state ?

    I was thinking about a thought experiment . Suppose that all the universe of all the quantum fields were simultaneously and constantly being observed . Then all the stuff in the universe would exist as particles than fields of energy .

    What would this do to the universe ?  They can model this in computers . Would it change for example the rate at which universe expands ? Or the speed with wich black holes from ?

    If it affects the universe in a positive way , that is gives it a longer life span , allows formation of planets . Then it proves that the universe was built for the purpose of observation or life formation .

    Regarding other recorded events , many people saw in their mind's eye , the destruction of Twin towers . Before the event !  Your's truly included  . I envisioned a missile hitting the Twin towers a week before the event . I  remember posting about seeing an Israeli Nursing home being hit by missile a few days in advance . It was in the news ......
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    Post  11E Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:17 am

    nomadski wrote:@ 1 1E

    The wealthiest nations won the greater number of Olympic gold . This has nothing to do with innate or genetic superiority . The IQ measure ,  is about  developed mental ability because of educational opportunity . To measure accurately  then any possible genetic determinants of intelligence , one must compare different racial groups within identical environments .

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    If I understand you correctly you have to compare, for example, different ''races'' in the same educational system?

    If this is the case I took an study in the USA (https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/iqs-of-races-in-the-united-states/) and it, again, turns out that Asians are the people with the highest IQ. Which is interesting.

    About the Olympics, I know, an athlete in a developed country have a lot more assets than someone in, for example, Congo. If I look at the assets my son gets who is an above average archer its amazing... at 13 years he has a doctor monitoring him, a sport psychologist, a sport masseur, 5 trainers and lessons how to get sponsors, cope with stress, yoga etc. And this is the for the regional team. So indeed, sportsmen (and women) from developed countries have far more change to get gold.

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    Post  kvs Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:14 am

    In the case of IQ I think that it is heavily a social construct.   It does not measure the physical potential of the brain but the accumulation
    of knowledge which includes problem solving and not just rote facts.   Humans develop their brains after birth.   No other mammal does
    this including any primate such as chimpanzees.    But even if the peak number of neurons is reached at age four, there is still plenty
    of brain development due to education and life experience into the teens at leat.   So even from the same race and even family you can
    have a lower IQ just because of lack of education and life experience.  

    Asians have a cultural fixation on learning.   This is not a stereotype, it is real and applies even to second and third generation Asians
    in the west.   By contrast, blacks in the USA have a cultural aversion to education and take pride of not playing by whitey's rules.  So
    we have the situation of immigrant blacks from Africa outperforming American blacks substantially in terms of education and employment.
    You could say that these African immigrants are some sort of cream of the crop.   But that still does not say anything against the fact that
    they have more IQ because they had to exert themselves in education and were motivated to get the life experience.

    We had a professor called Phillip Rushton here in Canada who stratified the races based on IQ.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Philippe_Rushton

    I think he crossed the line in treating IQ as intrinsic instead of exogenous.   He was not wrong in his assessments of de facto IQ
    patterns across races and its role in crime.    But IQ is not an immutable property of humans populations.    What is immutable is
    an "IQ" distribution with most being mediocre and only a small percentage being genius material.   The sad thing is that over time
    the de facto IQ of the western populations (especially in the USA) is sliding down thanks to reduced education standards and
    the whole rotten mass media and entertainment environment.    This applies to all races blessed to live in the beacons of humanity.

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