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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:10 am

    Moskva making NYC look like a landfill in comparison (probably because it is)!



    St. Petersberg making Paris look 'Peris-hable!'






    @ 5:33  It's mentioned that St. Pete having free toll roads, and a lot of convenient open parking, which is a completely foreign and alien concept in major U.S. cities, especially in NYC and LA! NYC and LA have some of the worst parking dynamics in the world, such as going several kilometers without finding adequate parking spaces. The few parking spaces you do find usually have 30 minute to 1 hour time limits, and have over-zealous parking maid Gestapos willing to enforce them. The parking maid Gestapo are willing to enforce them at the drop-of-a-dime because of the 'quota-based' fining system in those cities! These jobs attract people who are cognitively predisposed to have personality types that gravitate towards petty power abuse!  clown  pwnd

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    Post  George1 Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:15 am

    СК Олимпийский

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:16 am

    Where have you been George? Surprisingly enough, even with our disagreements between each other, I have missed your moderating.
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    Post  George1 Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:41 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Where have you been George? Surprisingly enough, even with our disagreements between each other, I have missed your moderating.

    i am studying prophecies about WWIII...

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    Post  kvs Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 am



    Rapid development of housing in the Yamal-Nenetsk region located in the Russian Arctic. People are being provided with new
    apartments in all new developments to replace decrepit housing. This demonstrates that improving conditions are not confined
    to the major urban centers.

    The heated bus stop shelters are nice.

    The economy in this region is not stagnant.




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    Post  lancelot Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:38 am

    Probably because of the gas exploration in Yamal. Lots of capital in the region.

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    Post  Hole Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:59 am

    There is lots of capital around New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, still huge parts of these cities are wore down, millions of homeless people. Without a strong state the capital flows into the pockets of the 0,1% and not into new housing and infrastructure.

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    Post  Scorpius Fri May 06, 2022 3:33 pm

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    Just a photo of a typical Russian microdistrict of the Soviet layout.

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    Post  Firebird Mon May 09, 2022 7:09 am

    Hole wrote:There is lots of capital around New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, still huge parts of these cities are wore down, millions of homeless people. Without a strong state the capital flows into the pockets of the 0,1% and not into new housing and infrastructure.

    I know someone who lives in a shitty part of London. Lots of crime, third world immigrants hanging round the streets etc. He's a long way from Central London.

    His house is a 1200 sq ft 3 or rather 2.5 bedroom "semidetached" house ie joined with another one.
    The house is "worth" or rather COSTS about 1.25 m Euros.

    Now London wages are high, but not ridiculously so after taxes, and especially after other costs like transport and housing.

    His home is a scruffy 1920s building. In any other city pretty much, it would be considered a struggling upper working class person's house traditionally. But he is having to spend an absolute fortune.

    But yes, it really shows how capital in the 0.1 % of the population has destroyed standards of living.
    Unless you inherit property wealth somehow, most people have to struggle 30 or 40 years, even to buy what is frankly shit. In Australia or Canada, a house like his would be owned by a poor person.

    He's one of the wealthier persons in Britain. For people on normal or low incomes, the situation is really dire.

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    Post  GarryB Tue May 10, 2022 3:21 am

    The cost of houses means they are very expensive which means rents can be high which makes buying a house and then getting renters in to pay the mortgage so you end up with a house paid for by the people living in it.

    When my father was young houses were cheap and rent was low... if you wanted a house you could get one eventually, but these days no.

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    Post  Scorpius Tue May 10, 2022 11:30 am

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    Krasnodar

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed May 25, 2022 10:34 am

    Bit random but the new city police has started working in Nizhny Novgorod. They wear turn-of-the-century imperial uniforms.
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    Wonder if it will spread to more cities. I like what they did to Rybinsk, where storefronts had to put up 19th century style signs and all to blend in better with the classic Russian architecture.

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    Post  Hole Wed May 25, 2022 10:40 am

    You can do this in Russia, city police without guns. Meanwhile in the US the police will soon receive M1 tanks. Wink

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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 25, 2022 11:28 am

    It's the tourist police. Just a limited detachment in the centre mostly there to prevent tourists getting scammed and giving them information.
    Rest of the police will wear their standard uniforms of course

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    Post  GarryB Wed May 25, 2022 10:12 pm

    So they are more like community constables... still a nice touch though to make them more approachable....

    Cops in the west are looking more and more like Ninja soldiers every day with army training...

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    Post  Firebird Thu May 26, 2022 3:30 am

    GarryB wrote:So they are more like community constables... still a nice touch though to make them more approachable....

    Cops in the west are looking more and more like Ninja soldiers every day with army training...

    Yep til about the late 1990s British uniforms hadn't changed for not far off 100 years.
    Of course there were a lot of scum in the cops.. just as today.
    But the uniform wasn't in your face.

    It basically looked like a ceremonial uniform with a domed hard hat.
    Now they look like Robocop,  generally shaven headed pricks on roids. Arnaments all in prominent view (which actually make them easier for an attacker to snatch)
    Tasers (which we were promised would only be carried by a tiny number), long batons, pepper spray cuffs, all on prominent display.
    Body armour, but strangely bare ie knife slashable arms to "show their muscles" which looks a bit homo (UN) erotic.

    TBH I despised them as a corrupt gang of wannabe bullies even before the robocop uniforms. But now they just LOOK like stormtroopers as well. Perhaps that is a reason for their further loss of credibility these days.
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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:27 pm

    Can't find a suitable thread for this tweet, so putting it here.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:47 am

    Some sports facilities/stadiums under construction or planned at the moment:

    Olympic Stadium (reconstruction), Moscow (multi-functional stadium/venue)

    Progress (April 2022):


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    SKA Arena, St. Petersburg (ice hockey/skating arena)

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    Novosibirsk Arena, Novosibirsk (ice hockey/skating arena)

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    UGMK Arena, Ekaterinburg (ice hockey/skating arena)

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    G-Drive Arena, Omsk (ice hockey/skating arena)

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    Curling Ice Arena, Vladivostok

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    Vladivostok Tennis Complex, Vladivostok

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    Centre for Extreme Sports, Vladivostok

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    Elena Vyalbe Universal Ski-Sport Stadium and All-Season Ski-Jump complex, Magadan

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    Torpedo Arena (reconstruction), Moscow

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    Post  Hole Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:15 am

    New post from Vann lamenting about wasting money for sport arenas coming up in 3... 2... Laughing

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:44 am

    And a small selection of parks & squares on the drawing board or constructed/reconstructed recently:

    400-year anniversary park, Krasnoyarsk:
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    Park by the Salavat Kupere residential complex, Kazan:
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    Square of the 100th anniversary of the foundation of the construction industry of Tatarstan, Kazan:
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    Town square in Uzlovaya, Tula region:
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    Reconstruction of Sergey Lazo Park, Vladivostok:
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    Square of Peter Kalmykov, Chelyabisnk:
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    The Green Museum-Arboretum, Khabarovsk:
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    Udaltsovskie Ponds, Moscow:
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    Yaroslavl' Biopark, Yaroslavl':
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    Reconstruction of May 1st Park, Rostov-on-Don:
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    Construction of the next stage of the Galitsky Park - "Japanese garden", Krasnodar:
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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:55 am

    Hole wrote:New post from Vann lamenting about wasting money for sport arenas coming up in 3... 2... Laughing

    Partially, i agree with him with regard to present situation. What has been started should be completed, but state should step out of new projects and let private sector pick up the tab if they want. They have a bigger fish to fry, at the moment.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:11 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    Hole wrote:New post from Vann lamenting about wasting money for sport arenas coming up in 3... 2... Laughing

    Partially, i agree with him with regard to present situation. What has been started should be completed, but state should step out of new projects and let private sector pick up the tab if they want. They have a bigger fish to fry, at the moment.

    Bigger fish to fry than healthy youth and physically active adults?

    Fostering Olympics talent is the least that all this is about

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:40 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    Bigger fish to fry than healthy youth and physically active adults?

    Fostering Olympics talent is the least that all this is about
    Bigger fish to fry in a sense of rerouting most of the exports to the east by investing in needed infrastructure and investing heavily in science and R&D needed for import substitution. Don't think for a second that economic problems are solved. This will be a multi year struggle.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:03 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:

    Bigger fish to fry than healthy youth and physically active adults?

    Fostering Olympics talent is the least that all this is about
    Bigger fish to fry in a sense of rerouting most of the exports to the east by investing in needed infrastructure and investing heavily in science and R&D needed for import substitution. Don't think for a second that economic problems are solved. This will be a multi year struggle.

    I'm not

    But just as you wouldn't sacrifice education for all that, neither would you sacrifice a cult of physical activity and propagandization of a sporting lifestyle, with the matching dazzling infrastructure to boot. It's directly linked to life expectancy, people's quality of life, government expenditure on medical care, etc...

    It's all linked and it's all part of the total package for developing the country. A mix of long-term and short-term measures, and they are all necessary.

    Added to all that, in a period of a fall in export volumes and business activity, but a stabilization of the budget and inflation situation - austerity is hardly the right measure to institute. Instead big construction projects such as this stimulate domestic demand for multiple economic sectors.

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