Russian Liberal Opposition

His clock may stop a lot sooner than he expects. Time will tell!

Tsavo Lion wrote:The ECHR ruled in favor of Russia on the 2008 war with Georgia.

...cuz the feckless bunch of corrupt scumbags couldn't ignore that the OSCE had already pinned the bame on Tbilisi and the tie-eating clown.

We are supposed to think highly of these liars because in that specific instance they were cornered like rats in a trap and had no choice but to retreat?...

Tsavo Lion wrote:His clock may stop a lot sooner than he expects. Time will tell!

The next Russian prez will be more nationalistic than Putin and a lot less compliant to the Wests wishes (and much less polite about it as well).

Exceptionalists need to be more circumspect about the things they wish for

ECHR is no longer relevant to Russia, they can make any decision they like.

They found in Russias favour in 2008 because even they could not hide the fact that Georgia was at fault.

Even BBC reported that Georgia attacked South Ossetia. At first. 24 hours later they turned into Biden and couldn´t remember.

Anyone in Russia can give more insight if there is actual oposition in Russia?
What I mean is a party that has alternative sane vision for Russia, has following among population and so on.
There seems to be significant decline in Putin and United Russia aproval ratings and it is strange to me no one but this crook Navalny has taken advantage of that..

He didn't gain much. For a month his popularity went up from 3% to 5% but then apparently dropped. It mostly went up due to the liberals all shouting the loudest.

LDPR and Communists still get second fiddle (at least they battle it out between the two). Right now, there are infighting in the communist party due to some members in the party who supported Navalny and so they themselves might get ousted since most in the communist view Navalny as a racist traitor.

Prime minister of Russia gets much more votes than Navalny, and he wasn't even voted in but moved in by Putin. And that is based upon Western funded Levada Center.

A pathological liar Navalny supporter (which seems to go hand and hand these days), got caught in a blatant lie...I know shocker?!?!?!



Michael McFaul's breath stinks as much as his ability to concoct a lie, and that's saying something!

2 Russian opposition parties merging: https://youtu.be/k_UY14zgt9k?t=423.

How Putin's friends took over Gazprom

The window to the West is closing. What will save the Russian elite now?

Why don't you name the two parties please.

They r Patriots of Russia & A Just Russia — Patriots — For Truth

funny, they used to be together at one point, diverged into other parties, and now merging.

A wierd collaboration of socialist party which is a counter to the communists since they have a bad rap with them.

Amnesty International says it will not call Navalny ‘prisoner of conscience’ anymore over his HATE SPEECH

Amnesty International, a human rights NGO, has withdrawn its designation of the recently jailed Russian activist and blogger Alexey Navalny as a “prisoner of conscience” due to past xenophobic statements he never retracted.
The group said it “is no longer able to consider” Navalny a prisoner of conscience because he “advocated violence and discrimination” and has never retracted any of such statements he made in the past. It maintained, however, that it still believes that his latest imprisonment was linked to his anti-government activism and demanded his “immediate release,”

source

Just PRICELESS.  Even this Rothschild-affiliated sock-puppet knows it will undermine its own credability by continuing to support this racist liar and thief

How the wheels have fallen off Navalnys little cart...  

Putin and Lukashenko: friendship amid protests

Both served in the KGB: 1 in Germany & the other in the Border Guards, so they have a lot in common.

Return to the totalitarian past

F. Dzerzhinsky is infamous (the Iron Felix), but if a statue of A. Nevsky is installed, it's worth recalling that he was a Russian satrap of the Golden Horde who suppressed Novgorod democracy & independence. IMO, they could find some1 better to commemorate at Lubyanka Square.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Putin and Lukashenko: friendship amid protests

Both served in the KGB: 1 in Germany & the other in the Border Guards, so they have a lot in common.

Return to the totalitarian past

F. Dzerzhinsky is infamous (the Iron Felix), but if a statue of A. Nevsky is installed, it's worth recalling that he was a Russian satrap of the Golden Horde who suppressed Novgorod democracy & independence. IMO, they could find some1 better to commemorate at Lubyanka Square.

A satrap of the Golden Horde or a Kievan-Rus Prince who lived thru those times and had no choice but to accomodate the Mongols? He managed to conserve the Russian State and Church and at the time, a tribute was unavoidable. It's not like he was a pacifist or a coward, given that he had no issue with making war on the Swedes, Germans and Estonians when they tried to invade.

Tell me genius, WTF do you think he should have done????

I'm not blaming him for anything; his statue there will just symbolize that Russia's heritage & direction is more Asiatic than European, as the people in the clips I posted said.

Big_Gazza wrote:Amnesty International says it will not call Navalny ‘prisoner of conscience’ anymore over his HATE SPEECH

Amnesty International, a human rights NGO, has withdrawn its designation of the recently jailed Russian activist and blogger Alexey Navalny as a “prisoner of conscience” due to past xenophobic statements he never retracted.
The group said it “is no longer able to consider” Navalny a prisoner of conscience because he “advocated violence and discrimination” and has never retracted any of such statements he made in the past. It maintained, however, that it still believes that his latest imprisonment was linked to his anti-government activism and demanded his “immediate release,”

source

Just PRICELESS.  Even this Rothschild-affiliated sock-puppet knows it will undermine its own credability by continuing to support this racist liar and thief

How the wheels have fallen off Navalnys little cart...  

Let's be honest here, as soon as Biden ""won"" and Navalny came out, it was very clear that he was being thrown to the sharks to create a distraction from the American ClusterF of an election as well as start building further case for more sanction and other Color revolution nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Nevsky

Wikipedia has a better grip on the truth than the resident troll-tard Tsavo Feline.

Nevsky forced Novgorod to pay tribute and there was no democracy to suppress.   By refusing to pay tribute the
local clowns put everyone else at risk for punitive retribution and would not have survived any such retribution.
In other words, Nevsky did the wise and righteous thing.   Nevsky was also brilliant for sussing out the Catholics
who were a real menace to Russia since they had a rabid hate for the Orthodox.   That is why they sent crusaders
against Russia (Teutonic Order). The Tatars didn't have such ideological investment.  Paying them tribute made more
sense for the long term survival of Russia.   And it has been demonstrated by the centuries following the Tatar-Mongol
yoke that the west is obsessed with exterminating Russia.   We can see this today as well, where Crimea is trotted out
like something worse than the Nazis starting WWII and carrying out the Holocaust.

Compared to the rest of his domain, Novgorod was a democracy. Nevsky wasn't thinking about preserving his people as much as preserving his own power. There were a few towns who resisted the Mongols with success & were bypassed by them. But due to their infighting for several decades prior to invasion, Rus principalities were weakened & fell an easy prey.
The Mongol-Tatars weren't invincible: the Mamluks of Egypt & the Vietnamese defeated them & the Koreans fought them for many years, delaying the invasion of Japan. The Japanese put up a stiff resistance twice & were aided by storms. The 3rd invasion was cancelled.
D. Donskoy defeated them in 1380, & later Timur cancelled his invasion of Rus.

There seems to be significant decline in Putin and United Russia aproval ratings and it is strange to me no one but this crook Navalny has taken advantage of that..

Seems.

That impression is projected by the western media that want Putin out. The Amusing thing is that the 30 percent not happy with Putin are not happy because they think he is too soft on the west and have realised the west accepting Russia as it is is never going to happen and they wont drop down on one knee for a bunch of lying hypocrites...

The second most powerful political force in Russia is the Communists and they don't expect or want good relations with the west.

If Putin goes it is more likely someone else from the same party will step up and take over... the sort of thing that happens in the west all the time.

The problem for the west is that Putin is about the most pro west politician that Russia is likely to have for the next 30 years... at least till the memories of the 1990s and Yeltsin and the way the Americans manipulated and used him are gone...

The people criticising Putin talk about the evil oligarchs that support him and they all steal from the Russian people... these are idiots who don't follow what actually happened.

You can't have a society without the rich... I am not sure a society wont function without such obsenely rich people but it has never happened before so lets ignore the possibility.

When Putin took over he essentially made a deal... you have what you have, but you now have to pay tax and be a good Russian citizen and benefit Russia first... and stay out of politics... some of the very rich people were happy with that arrangement, while others that wanted to keep stealing because it was free money ran into trouble and started getting arrested for their very real crimes... Bill Browder is one such criminal though he is UK/American, but there are plenty of other very very rich Russians living in the UK with their stolen money.

Imagine Germany collapsed and everything that is now in private hands was actually government owned so essentially the reverse of what is now. Who would not want to buy BMW... the factories are financially rich because they have the pensions of the workers that the workers have paid into all their lives, so you talk to an American you know is in the CIA and he gives you 5 million dollars to buy BMW... Germany used to be a communist state so no one else has that sort of money... you might pair up with the top criminal and he can provide protection and get rid of any rival bids, and so you win the bid and get BMW... the whole company... from design to production for 5 million. Why did the CIA give you 5 million dollars? Well first of all they now own you, and secondly they know you are going to asset strip the company and essentially destroy it which means those factories can eventually re open and make cars for the American market much cheaper, or for another market the American cars can't access but ex communist Germany can. So you declare all the tooling and machinery to be cold war junk and sell it off for a fraction of what it was worth because it was actually rather good solid stuff. You then fire 3/4ths of the workers and pinch their pensions... can you see how these guys went from nothing nobodies in a communist country to billionaires... ruthless bastards every one of them.

Then Putin gets into power and tells you to look after the factory towns your factory used to support as the primary employer and to pay tax at a proper rate after 10 years of not paying any tax at all... some of them transfer their money overseas and go to the UK and buy a soccer team and become heroes in the west for being anti Putin.

Wonder why democracy gets such a bad rap in some places...

Western-style democracy = rule by puppets to the good of oligarchs.

TL would be canceled on every western media for this "more asiatic then european" remark. The pseudo-liberal woke LGBTQRSTUVW folks would get a stroke and collapse.

PapaDragon wrote:

Tsavo Lion wrote:I'm not blaming him for anything; his statue there will just symbolize that Russia's heritage & direction is more Asiatic than European, as the people in the clips I posted said.

Let's for a second ignore the fact that every single thing you post is 100% crap and ask you a simple question:

Do I or majority of other folks on this forum look like people who give any measurable amount of fucks about democracy?

Calling it "democracy" is a misnomer, the term "IMF Debt-slavery" is more accurate. If a serial killer has a chainsaw, and they put a sticker label saying "Teddy Bear" on the chainsaw and they decide to dismember someone with their "Teddy Bear", it doesn't actually mean they killed them with kindness with their cuddly stuffed toy.

Amnesty International does not consider Navalny a prisoner of conscience

Putin and the FSB. Scandal around Amnesty International and Navalny. Action in memory of Nemtsov

They decided to equate the insult to the veterans with the justification of Nazism. The corresponding law was prepared by a group of deputies from "United Russia" headed by Irina Yarovaya. Another author, Alexander Khinshtein, called the fine in the case of insulting a veteran "disproportionate to the gravity of the moral crimes." “Today the liability for libel has already been toughened, and the person involved in the case was tried according to the old version of the Criminal Code, since it was it that was in force at the time of the crime,” Khinshtein added. The name of the person involved, about whom the deputy speaks, is not given in the message of "United Russia", notes RBC. A demonstration campaign to protect veterans was launched simultaneously with the trial of Alexei Navalny in the libel case. As a result, the politician received a fine of 850 thousand rubles for disseminating false information about the war participant Ignat Artemenko. The veteran was in the RT video in support of the amendments to the Constitution. And Navalny called the participants in this recording traitors and corrupt lackeys. We discussed the new law with political scientist Yekaterina Shulman.
Ekaterina Shulman on how the authorities are trying to discredit Navalny

Dzerzhinsky. Does a monument in the center of the capital need such a historical character

PapaDragon wrote:

Tsavo Lion wrote:I'm not blaming him for anything; his statue there will just symbolize that Russia's heritage & direction is more Asiatic than European, as the people in the clips I posted said.

Let's for a second ignore the fact that every single thing you post is 100% crap..- I ignore the things u post all the time.
Do I or majority of other folks on this forum look like people who give any measurable amount of fucks about democracy?

of course not; u also don't give a fuck about how the Russians live & feel under/about the Putin authoritarian regime which is turning into a dictatorship by the day. U don't know how good u have it in ur Serbia.