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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:33 am

    GarryB wrote:Wow... in that link you posted was this;

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    The red thing with the holes in the top is a Russian invented fire suppression system... I remember seeing in on an excellent Aussie TV programme from the 1990s called Beyond 2000 that looked at new ideas and new technologies being invented at the time.

    This thing is very very simple... place it in the engine bay or near a fuel system in a vehicle (not a crew cabin or manned area).

    When a fire is detected this thing is ignited and it rapidly burns material which sucks all the O2 out of the surrounding air and suffocates the fire to prevent it from doing too much damage.

    Good to see it being in use.

    Russia Today had a similar programme called Technology Update which was excellent too and looked at new technology and developments to improve things and make life easier, but they cancelled it.

    An automatic fire extinguishing system is installed in the engine compartment. It wasn't in the old cars.

    So this system was developed in the 1990s, and is only introduced to this vehicle now... if you had asked me before hand if they had these I would have assumed they all had them because the system is actually very simple and cheap.... it consumes oxygen but it does not get hot or create super heated gas like it would if it was just some material that burned rapidly.

    It has already been mentioned on the forum about upgrades... we hear a bit about them and assume they are done only to find out later they were cancelled or are only just doing them now. Things like upgrades for the Blackjacks, or APS systems on tanks and armoured vehicles...


    Which link are u talking about scratch
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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:03 am

    The one in Post number 6...

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:58 am

    GarryB wrote:

    So this system was developed in the 1990s, and is only introduced to this vehicle now...

    I know for sure that such systems have been installed on Russian armored vehicles for a couple of decades.
    It was developed in the nineties, adopted in the noughties.

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    Post  xeno Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:12 am

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    A very cute weapon...
    Any member on this forum like me loves these improvised and exotic weapons?

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    Post  marcellogo Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:22 am

    KAWAIIII!

    Well, after the monstruosity that was the one with twin 25mm turret, everything look ok...

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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:26 am

    Its main problem will be its ammo, the S-60 is an AA gun so while there are APHE rounds they are intended to destroy protected aircraft... which are generally not heavily protected like some ground vehicles.

    It is a very high velocity gun and like most AA guns would be good for destroying light armour and the calibre means it would pack a serious punch even against ground targets... we have seen ZU-23 twin gun mounts on BMDs so why not S-60 57mm guns on MTLBs.

    A versatile vehicle with a very powerful gun... firing clips of four rounds it could really do some damage at quite decent standoff ranges... the ZSU-57-2 was most popular as a ground to ground suppression weapon...

    Would not want to be fired at with that.

    Lower rate of fire than the 25mm and 23mm but packs rather more punch per round.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:58 pm

    The Cubans went one step further and put 85mm and 100mm anti aircraft gun on T-34 chassis this was done so it could be used in three ways anti air, artillery, and direct fire. Although they don't pack much penetration the rounds would be devastating against light vehicles and infantry. I suppose they could do this upgrade using the 37mm anti aircraft gun as well if they have it laying around. I remember seeing a Syrian T-55 with turret removed and a ZPU-4 mounted on it and they were using it to tackle VIED I guess using four barrels increased the chances of hitting the fast moving vehicle and the 14.5mm would be more then good to penetrate the ramshackle metal clad vehicles that the terrorists were using, although these vehicles were covered in armour the metal only provided protection from shrapnel and assault rifles only.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:59 am

    Well it's a fire support vehicle. Nice and cheap too; Russia has many thousands of these MT-LBs and probably still a large surplus of these 57mm guns. Not sure how much ammo for them is available, but then again the ammo should be easy to mass produce.

    For destroying sniper's nests, bunkers, enemy IFVs it's just the ticket.

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