GarryB wrote:Maintainence does not occur in combat.
In a rear area where it is safe you do maintainence... there should be a few other troops around that could assist in maintainence... no need to haul them around all the time.
Of course a command vehicle or ATGM vehicle with Krisantema would be in bigger trouble as some of them only have two crew...
Of course they performe maintenance before and after combat, not during. I find that arguement very funny to put it mildly. If your biggest concern is to have 4 crew per tank for maintenance then i really have to break it down to you that tanks do never go alone into battle of any sort there are always other tanks with their crew, commanding, communication vehicle, in best scenario infantry, air and mobile SHORAD along with some supply vehicles somewhere relative closeby. They will always help that is not about selfishness or about refusing help it is about the combined forces readiness and therefore success and survival. If someone really has such big concerns and necessity for a 4th crew member for their tank for maintenance reasons then i must say that their structure of military command and forces are shit or they are just idiots that drive all by themselfs without any formations, tactic or command. The 4th crew member would be happy not to be with them at that point.
That makes sense and I think that the Armata will be significantly easier to maintain than tanks that were designed in the 70s, even with a 3 man crew so the Armata is superior to every tank in every regard. Question: If the Armata does eventually get a 152mm gun, how many rounds do you think it should be able to hold?
Well i wild hold against that claim. Computerized plattforms with many remote controlled functions, stations, and no direct access to most of the devices that make your plattform do what it was designed to do will always have higher maintenance hours and more intensive maintenance overhaul. Not to mention that 70's tanks are very primitive compared with Armata of any configuration. The 70's tanks required almost only mechanical maintenance which was relative short, primitve of requirement to skill and environment which is good to repair/maintain them in the field rather requiring specialized personal, equipment or even a hangar/"boxstop".
I don't know how many rounds it will hold but i think some number was floating somehwere around of 38 but it think that is to high and rounds will be somewhere ~32 which is actually more then enough. If anything stands after a 152mm rounds and that of 32 times engagement then you should shot your gunner or call hulk (if he is not the target).
4t from what i at least belive includes cables + their protection aganist heat, moisture and even more importantly fuel and hydraulic liquid. Vehicles i served were always leaking Hydraulic fluids somewhere, either somewhere on lanes or on the pump. But it truly did say that M1A1 has 4t of cables and that A3 will use optic fiber based cabling wich will cut its weight by 2t. So i assume it includes cables + their protection.
Would make more sense but it still sounds like far more than what someone would expect. Do you know how much tons of cables+protection is in any other tank?