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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #11

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    Post  Guest Sat May 27, 2017 12:43 am

    eehnie wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:More on the job testing going on.

    Perhaps the most interesting photo of them all. Among all those beat up vehicles is a brand new BPM-97 (Kamaz Vystrel). It's a modern Russian mine-resistant truck which is not even particularly common in Russia, much less in Syria. Next to it are three pasty guys in matching salmon helmets – in all likelihood Russian advisors watching over their charges.

    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #11 - Page 15 Blur

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photos-russian-forces-help-syrian-army-ambush-isis-tanks-march-deir-ez-zor-begins#.WShcMdsVgoo.twitter

    Well, no. The BPM-97 is not a "modern Russian mine-resistant truck". Your tone reminds me the tone of the Maidan propagandists talking about the presence of this vehicle in Novorussia.

    So you are claiming that Vystrel wasnt used in Ukraine? Because just on this forum we had like 20-30 different photos and videos featuring it in Novorossia.
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    Post  eehnie Sat May 27, 2017 12:53 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    JohninMK wrote:More on the job testing going on.

    Perhaps the most interesting photo of them all. Among all those beat up vehicles is a brand new BPM-97 (Kamaz Vystrel). It's a modern Russian mine-resistant truck which is not even particularly common in Russia, much less in Syria. Next to it are three pasty guys in matching salmon helmets – in all likelihood Russian advisors watching over their charges.

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    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photos-russian-forces-help-syrian-army-ambush-isis-tanks-march-deir-ez-zor-begins#.WShcMdsVgoo.twitter

    Well, no. The BPM-97 is not a "modern Russian mine-resistant truck". Your tone reminds me the tone of the Maidan propagandists talking about the presence of this vehicle in Novorussia.

    So you are claiming that Vystrel wasnt used in Ukraine? Because just on this forum we had like 20-30 different photos and videos featuring it in Novorossia.

    No, I'm saying that the tone used by JohninMK reminds me the tone used by the media of the Maidan. It was the same tone. And no the BPM-97 is not modern Russian armament.
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    Post  calm Sat May 27, 2017 3:07 am

    That is a quot from article.

    He put it in

    And that is old stuff, same battle, video here - https://www.facebook.com/smc.sy.2017/videos/vb.132477880594373/200641430444684/?type=2&theater

    BPM-9 here.
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    East Palmyra CAS

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    Gaz Tigar and BPM-9( KAMAZ 43269/Vystrel), Mi-35, Mi-24 and Mi-8MTSh



    One BPM-9 captured by IS in Palmyra last year.
    https://twitter.com/ain92ru/status/808024912627699712

    Have no idea why they use that stuff...
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    Post  eehnie Sat May 27, 2017 6:40 am

    calm wrote:That is a quot from article.

    He put it in

    And that is old stuff, same battle, video here - https://www.facebook.com/smc.sy.2017/videos/vb.132477880594373/200641430444684/?type=2&theater

    BPM-9 here.
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    East Palmyra CAS

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    Gaz Tigar and BPM-9( KAMAZ 43269/Vystrel), Mi-35, Mi-24 and Mi-8MTSh



    One BPM-9 captured by IS in Palmyra last year.
    https://twitter.com/ain92ru/status/808024912627699712

    Have no idea why they use that stuff...

    The BPM-97 was clearly to be used in Syria. Not only that, the BPM-97 was something to provide to the Syrian Armed Forces, as part of the less modern and less powerful material of the Russian Armed Forces.

    Note that while the BPM-97 and the Bulat 6x6 apce are confused many times, my comment is refered only to the BPM-97 4x4.
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    Post  Regular Sat May 27, 2017 12:04 pm

    Vystrel it's just armoured kamaz. Nothing advanced about it. You want to see advanced Russian gear in Syria, check typhoons and tigr modifications.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 27, 2017 12:13 pm

    A bit more flesh on the bones of that RuAF strike a couple of nights ago. For a start it looks to be in a different location, unless there were two similar events.

    Also a confirmation that that it seems that neither the US (as in Tabqa) or Russia (now) will honour any SDF free passage agreement. This should bring the Kurds a bit closer to the reality of their position, hired hands. No doubt the US was not best pleased at the RuAF action as the public closing of a back door out will make taking Raqqa harder and take longer, not part of their plan, still they can hardly complain.

    The Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed some 120 Daesh (banned in Russia) militants trying to escape the violent group's self-proclaimed capital city of Raqqa in Syria, a military source told Sputnik. The radicals were eliminated by Russian airstrikes on May 25, while fleeing from Syria's Raqqa for Palmyra, according to a source in the Russian Defense Ministry. The source revealed that the convoy of 39 pick-up trucks armed with large-caliber machine-guns was heading out of the city.

    "As a result of these strikes, 32 pick-up trucks were destroyed and some 120 terrorists were killed," the source said, explaining that the Russian military in Syria received several confirmed reports that Daesh terrorists made a deal the units of Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) operating near Raqqa, allowing them to leave the embattled city without obstacles. "Upon receiving this information, the command of the Russian contingent in Syria has taken measures to prevent the exodus of Daesh terrorists in the southern direction," the source said.

    The source went on by saying that Russian drones have been deployed around the clock to track the possible routes that the terrorists could use to escape the city and move toward Palmyra. Russian combat aircraft and special forces units were also engaged in the operation to prevent the militants from fleeing Raqqa.

    "Any attempts by Daesh militants to move toward Palmyra and to build up their forces there will be squashed," the source stressed.


    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201705271054035636-russian-airstrikes-kill-120-daesh-terrorists/
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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 27, 2017 12:17 pm

    Just to confuse things i.e. where was that night attack, Homs or Raqqa, or was there two or have I got the geography wrong, we have this excellent news

    DAMASCUS, SYRIA (1:50 A.M.) – On Friday evening, Al-Masdar News was informed that the Islamic State had lost one its top military commanders in Syria due to a pinpoint Russian airstrike in eastern Homs.

    Abu Ayoub Al-Shishani, not to be confused with the late Abu Omar Al-Shishani, was killed by a Russian Sukhoi Su-34 bomber jet during the Islamic State’s large-scale withdrawal from central Homs on Thursday.

    Abu Ayoub Al-Shishani, a man of Chechen origin who also fought the Russian Army back home, drew up the military plans for the first ISIS assault on Palmyra back in March 2016 which led to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) retreating from the ancient city at the time.


    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-wipes-high-ranking-chechen-isis-warlord-eastern-homs/
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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 27, 2017 12:37 pm

    UPDATE

    This is the Russia MoD issued video of the Raqqa one. Is it the same as the earlier video?

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    Post  Vann7 Sun May 28, 2017 8:19 am

    Interesting video.. fights in Homs..
    Russia + Syria versus FSA + ISIS




    someone posted a similar video earlier but this one seems a larger version.
    The latest battle near palmyra allowed the Syrian army to capture 3,000km
    in just 48 hours. ISIS in full retreat. Seems they used all their suicide bombers. Smile



    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/isis-retreat-separate-syrian-army-offensives-turn-heat/ri19948


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    Post  ult Sun May 28, 2017 9:06 am

    Great Ka-52 and Vikhr-1 combat footage with the crew's comms.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 28, 2017 3:06 pm

    ult wrote:Great Ka-52 and Vikhr-1 combat footage with the crew's comms.

    Hypnotic viewing! The strike at the end 3.0 looked like it hit a crew truck, lots of bodies flying towards their virgins.

    Do the targets have any idea what is coming their way? The launch to target distance seems to be about the same as the flight time in each case is similarso maybe the crew are keeping away to avoid tipping the target off?
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    Post  Guest Sun May 28, 2017 3:09 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    ult wrote:Great Ka-52 and Vikhr-1 combat footage with the crew's comms.

    Hypnotic viewing! The strike at the end 3.0 looked like it hit a crew truck, lots of bodies flying towards their virgins.

    Do the targets have any idea what is coming their way? The launch to target distance seems to be about the same as the flight time in each case is similarso maybe the crew are keeping away to avoid tipping the target off?

    Due to configuration of terrain in Syria its very unlikely they are not aware of helicopters presence. However staying away makes helicopter crew alot more comfortable and alot harder target.

    As you can see on most of such videos targets on the ground are trying to evacuate.
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    Post  GarryB Mon May 29, 2017 12:47 pm

    The Vikhr has a flight speed of 500-610m per second depending upon range... the specs claim 21 seconds to 8km and about 11 seconds to 5km, so you have a view of the missile launch and a timer on the video and you can see the explosion so you can roughly work out approx range.

    I would suspect most shots would be taken at between 5km and 8km or so.

    Note at that distance the sound of the helo from inside a vehicle would be zero and the missiles are very supersonic (speed of sound is about 320m/s and these missiles move at 550-610m/s) so they would not know what hit them at any range.

    even if they were looking in the right direction we are talking about a missile about 13-14cm across moving at almost twice the speed of sound... in other words as fast as a rifle bullet.
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    Post  George1 Wed May 31, 2017 9:05 am

    Kalibr attack russia russia

    MOSCOW, May 31. /TASS/. The Admiral Essen frigate and the Krasnodar submarine have fired four Kalibr missiles at the facilities of the Islamic State terror group (outlawed in Russia) located near the city of Palmyra, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

    "The Admiral Essen frigate and the Krasnodar submarine currently deployed to the eastern section of the Mediterranean Sea, fired four Kalibr missiles at the IS facilities near Palmyra. All targets have been hit," the statement reads. According to the Defense Ministry, the submarine fired missiles from underwater.

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/948581
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    Post  mnrck Wed May 31, 2017 9:40 am

    Video
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed May 31, 2017 6:10 pm

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    Russian Gov chartered,flag Ro-Ro Alexandr Tkachenko transited #Tartus #Syria bound Bosphorus carrying 2dozen+military KamAZ & Ural trucks

    https://twitter.com/YorukIsik/status/869761053734973440

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    Post  calm Wed May 31, 2017 6:54 pm

    "65 vehicles destroyed"

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    Post  par far Wed May 31, 2017 7:12 pm

    mnrck wrote:Video



    I wonder what the point of using the Kalibir Missile? Is it a testing? Is it to sent a message?

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    Post  medo Wed May 31, 2017 7:20 pm

    par far wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Video



    I wonder what the point of using the Kalibir Missile? Is it a testing? Is it to sent a message?


    More like a real combat test of a new frigate and a sub.
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    Post  par far Wed May 31, 2017 7:33 pm

    medo wrote:
    par far wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Video



    I wonder what the point of using the Kalibir Missile? Is it a testing? Is it to sent a message?


    More like a real combat test of a new frigate and a sub.

    Probably is but could be a message to US, not to fuck around.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed May 31, 2017 9:44 pm

    par far wrote:
    medo wrote:
    par far wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Video
    ............

    I wonder what the point of using the Kalibir Missile? Is it a testing? Is it to sent a message?


    More like a real combat test of a new frigate and a sub.

    Probably is but could be a message to US, not to fuck around.



    High value targets, testing, advertising, practice or using it before it reaches expiration date

    Most likely all of the above
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    Post  mnrck Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:11 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:
    medo wrote:
    par far wrote:
    mnrck wrote:Video
    ............

    I wonder what the point of using the Kalibir Missile? Is it a testing? Is it to sent a message?


    More like a real combat test of a new frigate and a sub.

    Probably is but could be a message to US, not to fuck around.



    High value targets, testing, advertising, practice or using it before it reaches expiration date

    Most likely all of the above

    Agree with you.
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    Post  Benya Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:35 pm

    RUSSIAN WARPLANES DESTROYED THREE ISIS CONVOYS FLEEING RAQQA. 80 TERRORISTS KILLED – RUSSIAN MOD

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    Russian warplanes have destroyed three ISIS convoys fleeing Raqqa, the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed in a statement on Thursday.

    According to the MoD, the convoys were attempting to escape from Raqqah in the southern direction on Monday but this was prevented by the Russian Aerospace Forces.

    As a result 80 ISIS terrorists were killed and 36 vehicles, 8 fuel trucks and 17 pick ups equipped with mortars and machine guns were destroyed.

    “The Command of the Russian Air Force group in Syrian Arab Republic warned that any efforts of ISIS’ insurgents to leave Raqqa through the open corridor to Palmyra will be suppressed.

    The first insurgents’ convoy which was heading from Raqqa to Palmyra Russian aviation eliminated on the 25th of May.

    On the night of 29 30 May militants took another shot to advance to Palmyra.
    Three mechanized convoys full with insurgents in the darkness left Raqqa and headed to the South on several routes.

    Our intelligence revealed this movement in due time. The Russian Aerospace Forces stroke detected targets,” the statement reads.
    The Russian ministary added that the US-led coalition and US-backed forces are maintaining an open corridor for terrorists south of the city of Raqqa.

    “The city is cut off from the north. In the meantime, SDF stopped its advance and it resulted in leaving breaches in defense lines south off Raqqa. Using that, terrorists are freely crossing Euphrates and trying to redeploy their units to the Southern Syria.

    The Command of the Russian Air Force group in Syrian Arab Republic will continue to take all necessary measured in order to prevent any ISIS’ forces to leave Raqqa and move to Homs and Hama provinces.“

    Source: Arrow https://southfront.org/russian-warplanes-destroyed-three-isis-convoys-fleeing-raqqa-80-terrorists-killed-russian-mod/
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    Post  calm Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:35 pm

    cheers

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