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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #11

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 22, 2017 11:03 pm

    Interesting Russian 2* in Syria

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    Commander of 106th Guards Airborne Division, General Major Glushenkov Dmitry Valeryevich with head of LiwaAlQudus colonel Samer Jafar, Homs

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    Post  Vann7 Mon May 22, 2017 11:04 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:

    Who's going to pay for that? How much did Hitler pay to slaughter millions of Russians?


    Hitler lost the war in case you didn't knew.. he did exactly what you want Russia to do.
    Throw all he have to the battle field and he then ended with a war of Attrition that bleed
    his economy and army. Napoleon also lost this way . Russia is good is winning wars ,by delaying
    the fights when they were not prepared to fight . Choosing the time when to fight .But fortunately the enemies are not invading Russia now. and Russia is not deploying a big army in Syria ,they can't finance for long.   IF Russia do what you want , it will end fighting All syria neighbors who provide weapons to ISIS in no time. and thats is a bigger war.

    it will also be a huge mistake that Russia shows all the military capabilities they have.
    all their technology so that NATO learn how to counter it later. Russia best weapons needs
    to be used in a major confrontation with NATO only ,and if possible only with US. to surprise
    their enemies and not become a predictable army.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 22, 2017 11:19 pm

    Azov rejoining the Syrian Express. Not been out of the Black Sea since last August. Clearly the workrate is taking its toll.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon May 22, 2017 11:23 pm

    One of the much loved (by the Syria population for its grain carrying) Russian axillary ships Dvinitsa-50 bought in for the job, definitely looking a lot worse for wear.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon May 22, 2017 11:56 pm

    Med sea is a bitch on ships. I seen brand new look like that buckets at the end of a tour.

    But doesn't stop the shop in performing its duties.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue May 23, 2017 12:03 am

    Another, a couple of days ago

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 23, 2017 2:46 am

    JohninMK wrote:Interesting Russian 2* in Syria

    monitoring‏ @warsmonitoring May 21

    Commander of 106th Guards Airborne Division, General Major Glushenkov Dmitry Valeryevich with head of LiwaAlQudus colonel Samer Jafar, Homs

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    ........

    After this one is left for dead by the "allies" how long will public have to wait until learning about it?

    Last two died on May 3rd. That was 20 days ago. News about it leaked only yesterday!

    This is not couple of days delay to notify the families. This is staring to reek of coverup in the name of preserving reputation (lol) of SAA.

    Why isn't public informed about this on time and why are bodies of dead servicemen being sneaked back into the country like they are some dirty little secret?

    Were they even given proper military burial at least? Were their families allowed to bury them in their uniforms?

    Looks like somebody is reading from Afghanistan playbook again. Spoiler: it did not work back then and it will not work now.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Tue May 23, 2017 3:46 am

    If Russia deployed Zoopark counter battery radars in northern Hama, that Grad launcher would have been destroyed a long time ago, and those two servicemen didn't have to die when terrorists used their Grad launcher to shell Helfaya. Terrorists reported two Russian servicemen KIA shortly after they shelled Helfaya with their Grad launcher. Not deploying Zoopark was responsible for the deaths. I said a long time ago they should have deployed Zoopark, but Putin refuses because he is working for Israel to perpetuate the war in Syria rather than ending it with Russian superior technology. Russia has counter battery radars. Terrorists don't. Russia does not use it, because using it will quickly end the war. Putin is a big Israel fan. The only reason Russia is in Syria is to perpetuate the war for Israel.

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    Post  Regular Tue May 23, 2017 5:37 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    This is not couple of days delay to notify the families. This is staring to reek of coverup in the name of preserving reputation (lol) of SAA.

    Why isn't public informed about this on time and why are bodies of dead servicemen being sneaked back into the country like they are some dirty little secret?

    Were they even given proper military burial at least? Were their families allowed to bury them in their uniforms?

    Looks like somebody is reading from Afghanistan playbook again. Spoiler: it did not work back then and it will not work now.
    Sounds more like Ukraine than Afghanistan.
    I remember like it was yesterday that losses by Soviets in A-stan weren't hidden.
    My father served there and I have family members who came back as gruz 200.
    There was no cover up.
    But here Ukraine, both sides have dead people with bones in the fields, "MIA" or resting in unmarked grave...
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 23, 2017 12:35 pm

    And if Syria falls, Russia will be next. And you will see ghost cities, bombed out buildings, millions dead in Russia. Is that what you would like to see in Russia? Because that's exactly what will happen if Syria falls.

    How do you work that out?

    Libya fell to anarchy but Russia was not invaded.

    If Syria falls Russia wont be invaded either.

    Syria wont fall... now it is strong enough to deal with ISIS.

    SAA is a Russia's proxy army in Syria. If Russia do that to SAA, then SAA join FSA and slaughter every Russian in Syria and cause Russia spring in Russia. Every major Russian city would be bombed. Millions die. Is that what you would like to see in Russia? Be careful what you wish for.

    WTF are you talking about?

    Why should the SAA object to deserters being shot? They do that in war you know... shoot deserters... for cowardice.

    It is a thing.

    In fact the romans had a thing called decimation where a unit guilty of cowardice in battle was lined up and one in every ten were killed on the spot... the remainder were sent straight back into battle...

    And BTW how exactly could the SAA kill millions of Russians in Russian cities?

    Are you drunk?

    If Russia deployed Zoopark counter battery radars in northern Hama, that Grad launcher would have been destroyed a long time ago, and those two servicemen didn't have to die when terrorists used their Grad launcher to shell Helfaya.

    Even if they had artillery radar it does not stop rockets in flight. If the enemy move every time they fire artillery radar lets you shell the places the enemy just fired from... which is totally bloody useless.

    Worse it can be used by the enemy to get you to shell schools and hospitals by firing from such locations and then moving and then setting up the cameras for live pictures of the evil Russians shelling innocent civilians.

    Either way those rockets fired are still fired and still land on target and kill.

    Being able to track them does not stop them from killing.

    And enemy guerilla force operating within a civilian area held hostage can't just be shelled indiscriminately if you want the civilians on your side.
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    Post  calm Tue May 23, 2017 4:51 pm

    Exclusive: Photographs Show Russian Air Force Supporting Syrian Army on Al-Tanf Front
    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photographs-show-russian-air-force-supporting-syrian-army-al-tanf-front/ri19910#.WSRGeTNt0GU.twitter

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    Post  calm Tue May 23, 2017 5:02 pm

    And here is massive photo album of Russians in Syria.


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    Post  ultimatewarrior Tue May 23, 2017 5:09 pm

    100 trucks of American weapons reached Kurds. Russia needs to take note. Stop being so picky not arming SAA. Give them some T-72B.

    https://southfront.org/100-trucks-us-weapons-kurdish-forces-arrived-syria-turkish-media/
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    Post  par far Tue May 23, 2017 5:33 pm

    calm wrote:Exclusive: Photographs Show Russian Air Force Supporting Syrian Army on Al-Tanf Front
    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photographs-show-russian-air-force-supporting-syrian-army-al-tanf-front/ri19910#.WSRGeTNt0GU.twitter

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    It was apparent from the start, that the SAA would not do this without the help and approval of Russia.


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    Post  par far Tue May 23, 2017 6:12 pm

    calm wrote:Exclusive: Photographs Show Russian Air Force Supporting Syrian Army on Al-Tanf Front
    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photographs-show-russian-air-force-supporting-syrian-army-al-tanf-front/ri19910#.WSRGeTNt0GU.twitter

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    According to that article, the VKS is testing the newer version of the MI 35.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue May 23, 2017 6:33 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Interesting Russian 2* in Syria

    monitoring‏ @warsmonitoring May 21

    Commander of 106th Guards Airborne Division, General Major Glushenkov Dmitry Valeryevich with head of LiwaAlQudus colonel Samer Jafar, Homs

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    ........

    After this one is left for dead by the "allies" how long will public have to wait until learning about it?

    Last two died on May 3rd. That was 20 days ago. News about it leaked only yesterday!

    This is not couple of days delay to notify the families. This is staring to reek of coverup in the name of preserving reputation (lol) of SAA.

    Why isn't public informed about this on time and why are bodies of dead servicemen being sneaked back into the country like they are some dirty little secret?

    Were they even given proper military burial at least? Were their families allowed to bury them in their uniforms?

    Looks like somebody is reading from Afghanistan playbook again. Spoiler: it did not work back then and it will not work now.

    you are aware thay, at least over here, there are usually inquiries first and an investigation done before publicly releasing info on the dead. In a lot of cases, the families are informed ahead of time but are told to keep silent about it towards media till later.

    There isn't a conspiracy or the sort. Russia isn't afraid to mention about it. But first they do their investigations. Ukraine they don't hide it either. They just won't mention they were soldiers other than mercenaries. Simple really and you guys are really Bitching about Fucking nothing and it is making both of you guys look dumb. Israel sucks, so does these morons they call allies. But what do you expect? Most probably get a couple weeks training till they are sent to frontlines. Russians on other hand have plenty of training and proper structural support while SAA doesn't.
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    Post  BKP Tue May 23, 2017 8:13 pm

    par far wrote:
    According to that article, the VKS is testing the newer version of the MI 35.

    Interesting. Article stated that mi-35 is recognizable By non-retractable landing gear. I didn't know that. Why non-retractable? Wouldn't retractable would be preferable because of better protection?
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    Post  medo Tue May 23, 2017 8:56 pm

    BKP wrote:
    par far wrote:
    According to that article, the VKS is testing the newer version of the MI 35.

    Interesting. Article stated that mi-35 is recognizable By non-retractable landing gear. I didn't know that. Why non-retractable? Wouldn't retractable would be preferable because of better protection?

    First weight reduction as no need for retracting hydraulics and second for case of emergency landing it will land on landing gear, which will absorb some of landing shock. But this new version of Mi-35 is equipped with new RWR and MAWS sensors on the wing ends and with DIRCM complex.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 23, 2017 10:12 pm

    calm wrote:And here is massive photo album of Russians in Syria.
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    These pics are pure gold and some of them are masterpieces of trolling on geopolitical scale. russia

    But these stand out for me:

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    Post  calm Wed May 24, 2017 3:39 pm

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    Sandstorm, sucidal maniacs like them because of cover they provide.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 25, 2017 2:31 am



    Is sad that Russia do not have the economy of China or even better. it will have been a lot
    of fun to see a semi full scale Russia invasion in Syria with 1,000 tanks , 100 helicopters
    and 100 combat jets. and 300 artillery pieces.. the fire works will have been spectacular. Very Happy

    To turn upside down the entire Syrian desert and see that terrorist running in the other
    direction crossing border into border nations.

    Just watching those videos , is pure action and excitement. I will like to see all terrorist
    not just defeated ,but completely destroyed their will to live and just prefer to suicide after seeing the power of Russia military in action. lol1
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    Post  soigneerin Thu May 25, 2017 4:31 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    Is sad that Russia do not have the economy of China or even better. it will have been a lot
    of fun to see a semi full scale Russia invasion in Syria with 1,000 tanks , 100 helicopters
    and 100 combat jets. and 300 artillery pieces.. the fire works will have been spectacular. Very Happy

    To turn upside down the entire Syrian desert and see that terrorist running in the other
    direction crossing border into  border nations.

    Would not happen even if Russia's economy would be China + USA.
    A lot of Russian soldiers would die as a result of such reckless behavior, and that would lead to massive political backlash in Moscow. So forget about it.
    The era of Clausewitz war tactics is over. The "Kalashnikov Revolution" ensured that no matter how many tanks or soldiers you have, you will bleed a lot for as long as your enemy has rifles. Russia learned this the hard way in Chechnya. USA learned this the hard way in Iraq.
    Additionally, there is also a matter of political alliances. Russia needs to maintain a low profile militarily in the Middle East to avoid antagonizing potential allies such as Iran.
    Small-scale but effective special operations is the way to go for superpowers in the 21st century.
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu May 25, 2017 6:02 am

    soigneerin wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:

    Is sad that Russia do not have the economy of China or even better. it will have been a lot
    of fun to see a semi full scale Russia invasion in Syria with 1,000 tanks , 100 helicopters
    and 100 combat jets. and 300 artillery pieces.. the fire works will have been spectacular. Very Happy

    To turn upside down the entire Syrian desert and see that terrorist running in the other
    direction crossing border into  border nations.

    Would not happen even if Russia's economy would be China + USA.
    A lot of Russian soldiers would die as a result of such reckless behavior, and that would lead to massive political backlash in Moscow. So forget about it.
    The era of Clausewitz war tactics is over. The "Kalashnikov Revolution" ensured that no matter how many tanks or soldiers you have, you will bleed a lot for as long as your enemy has rifles. Russia learned this the hard way in Chechnya. USA learned this the hard way in Iraq.
    Additionally, there is also a matter of political alliances. Russia needs to maintain a low profile militarily in the Middle East to avoid antagonizing potential allies such as Iran.
    Small-scale but effective special operations is the way to go for superpowers in the 21st century.

    This. This I agree with. People seem to have this old fantasy in their head of Russia needing to invade someone.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat May 27, 2017 12:14 am

    More on the job testing going on.

    Perhaps the most interesting photo of them all. Among all those beat up vehicles is a brand new BPM-97 (Kamaz Vystrel). It's a modern Russian mine-resistant truck which is not even particularly common in Russia, much less in Syria. Next to it are three pasty guys in matching salmon helmets – in all likelihood Russian advisors watching over their charges.

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    Post  eehnie Sat May 27, 2017 12:35 am

    JohninMK wrote:More on the job testing going on.

    Perhaps the most interesting photo of them all. Among all those beat up vehicles is a brand new BPM-97 (Kamaz Vystrel). It's a modern Russian mine-resistant truck which is not even particularly common in Russia, much less in Syria. Next to it are three pasty guys in matching salmon helmets – in all likelihood Russian advisors watching over their charges.

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    http://russia-insider.com/en/military/exclusive-photos-russian-forces-help-syrian-army-ambush-isis-tanks-march-deir-ez-zor-begins#.WShcMdsVgoo.twitter

    Well, no. The BPM-97 is not a "modern Russian mine-resistant truck". Your tone reminds me the tone of the Maidan propagandists talking about the presence of this vehicle in Novorussia.

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