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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:05 am

    kvs wrote:So if Golan Heights are non-issue, then so are all the fantasy restrictions on Hezbollah in Syria.   After Israeli and American sponsoring of
    the genocidal butchers (aka Daesh), there is negative incentive to restrict Iran or any other fellatio on the part of Syria and Russia.  

    Nobody likes being rocketed and shelled just because some retarded, lunatic mullah in Tehran has IBS. Last time some similar beardies tried this on Russia, they got invaded, fire-bombed and massacred in their own homes, with Grad, Smerch and Uragan MLRS and extreme Ruskie prejudice.

    Nobody likes those folks as neighbors.
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    Post  Guest Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:41 am

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    Am I a Serb posing as Israeli then?


    No, you are filthy NATO fanboi.
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:52 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    Am I a Serb posing as Israeli then?


    No, you are filthy NATO fanboi.

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    Post  Guest Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:07 am

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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:13 am

    Militarov wrote:
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    Post  Guest Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:17 am

    KiloGolf wrote:

    "About 35 miles behind" is probably one of the top 20 quotes from any TV show, ever written.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:21 am

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    starman wrote:The Palestinian situation could get volatile, especially after Abbas goes. The Israelis may seize upon violence to throw the palestinians out and grab all their remaining land

    Technically it's nobody's land as Jordan relinquished sovereignty in the West Bank.
    Israel can annex anything they like there.

    Fine, annex the land and accept the locals as citizens. That will have an interesting effect on domestic Israeli politics....

    Oh, whats that? You want the land but don't want the people who live there? Regardless of whether you choose mass ethnic cleansing or a continuation of the apartheid regime, Ziostan will remain a fucking blight on the face of the civilised world.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:30 am

    Nibiru wrote:Im not sure how to start with this post, but this war between the Israelis and the  Arabs are more than just territorial disputes, religious ideologies are also mainly at play here, i really hope that a lot of you people are aware of this ongoing plot by various Islamic groups and organizations to Islamize non-islamic countries? They are doing this little by little, if you live in the west with a very small muslim community, then you probably wouldn't notice this, but slowly they are building up communities and strengthening their political base to continously demand changes in certain laws that would be compliant with their Sharia. 

    The fault is entirely ours as the globalists demand population growth to expand economies, and promote non-European immigration as a way to dilute and degrade national identity of constituent nations in a bid to ease the formation of one world government. Does anyone find it surprising that Arabs and Africans bring their culture and religion with them? Do you expect them to deposit their essential natures in a bin as they enter the door?

    Nibiru wrote:Now, look at Bethlehem  , many years ago, there is a larger Christian presence in the area, but because of the relentless Birth Jihad, along with the usual Islamic intimidation, Christians have dwindled in numbers and continue to do so up to this day while the number of muslims have grown very rapidly. This is just an example, this very same Islamization strategy is being carried out in many other places, Western Europe, South and Southeast Asia, Central Asia, Africa, etc.

    Dafuq? Are you even remotely aware that "Christians" in the Holy Land are not white-skinned Euro Caucasian types but are semitic Mid-Easterners? Christian culture is on the wane for cultural and geo-political reasons, and has been well and truly sabotaged within the Greater ME by US-inspired regime change warfare and destabilisation. Cultural changes within ME nations is not even remotely the same as cultural changes in EU due to uncontrolled influx of 3rd world peoples.
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:33 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Oh, whats that?  You want the land but don't want the people who live there?  Regardless of whether you choose mass ethnic cleansing or a continuation of the apartheid regime, Ziostan will remain a fucking blight on the face of the civilised world.

    Civilized world like Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Syria? Get with the program, this is the Middle East.
    If Arabs like to claim they are native to Judea and Samaria, well it's just a nice joke. Same as the ridiculous claim Jerusalem is holy to their religion (it's not).
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    Post  eehnie Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:05 am

    KiloGolf wrote:Technically it's nobody's land as Jordan relinquished sovereignty in the West Bank.
    Israel can annex anything they like there.

    70.62% (137 of 194) of the countries of the world recognize Palestine as an independent state. 70.47% (136 of 193) of the UN member countries recognize Palestine as an independent state.

    Only 9 countries voted in the UN against Palestine as "Non-Member Observer State", that is the same status of the Vatican.

    Israel
    United States of America
    Canada
    Marshall Islands
    Federated States of Micronesia
    Palau
    Nauru
    Panama

    Czech Republic

    They are 8 in fact, because the Czech Republic recognizes Palestine as independent state.

    And the International recognition of the Golan as Israeli territory is exactly 0%.

    Some people here seem to live in a zionist bubble that agrees not with the reality, and want this forum to be part of their bubble. WTF.

    In the refered to the war, likely Al-Tanf is next. The high tension in the Golan will continue, unlikely to see retirement of troops from the Golan frontline.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:40 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Oh, whats that?  You want the land but don't want the people who live there?  Regardless of whether you choose mass ethnic cleansing or a continuation of the apartheid regime, Ziostan will remain a fucking blight on the face of the civilised world.

    Civilized world like Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Syria? Get with the program, this is the Middle East.
    If Arabs like to claim they are native to Judea and Samaria, well it's just a nice joke. Same as the ridiculous claim Jerusalem is holy to their religion (it's not).

    Nice try, but you are deflecting...

    Zionistan has aspirations to be accepted as a normal European 1st-world nation, and therefore regarded as "civilised"...  yet it is an inherently racist apartheid militarist state.  It's little better than the medieval Saudi tyranny in that respect (if you happen to have such poor judgement that you are birthed from a Palestinian womb rather than Chosenite...)

    Re Judea and Samaria, its abundantly clear that Palestinians are not true Arabs (in that they are not Bedouins from the peninsula) but are the descendents of the ancient Hebrew & Aramaic speaking peoples of ancient times, who following the downfall of the Jews at the hands of the Romans have been assimilated over the last 2000 years by the prevailing dominant culture (now Arab) and language (Islam).  Ben Gurion and his ilk knew this as fact and originally intended to make their future state all-inclusive, but quickly abandoned this and reverted to the Jewish-supremacy takeover that we all know and despise so well.

    In any case, their exact origin is all academic, as the Palestinian people exist and can trace their roots back for many centuries as a distinct ethnic group, and the current day landlord does NOT get to arbitrarily evict them from their homes, lands, businesses, places of worship, farms etc etc simply because the average Zio is a dyed-in-the-wool racist and supremacist bigot....
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    Post  starman Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:18 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
     Regardless of whether you choose mass ethnic cleansing or a continuation of the apartheid regime, Ziostan will remain a fucking blight on the face of the civilised world.

    Of course. But mass ethnic cleansing--which I think is likely someday to provide more room for Israel's growing jewish population--will finally get the spotlight back on Israel, where it belongs. For several years, the muslim world has been preoccupied with internal conflict but in the not too distant future attention may be back on Israel.
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    Post  starman Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:23 pm

    eehnie wrote:
    Only 9 countries voted in the UN against Palestine as "Non-Member Observer State", that is the same status of the Vatican.

    Israel
    United States of America
    Canada
    Marshall Islands
    Federated States of Micronesia
    Palau
    Nauru
    Panama

    Only the wimpiest stooges of the zionist dominated US (or Israel) opposed it....Marshall islands, Palau, what a joke.


    Some people here seem to live in a zionist bubble that agrees not with the reality,

    Unfortunately the reality is that Palestinian aspirations for a state are being smothered and Israel firmly holds Golan....
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:02 pm

    starman wrote:Palestinian aspirations for a state are being smothered and Israel firmly holds Golan....

    The local Arabs have a state in the region, called Jordan.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:16 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    starman wrote:Palestinian aspirations for a state are being smothered and Israel firmly holds Golan....

    The local Arabs have a state in the region, called Jordan.

    Riiiight... so that makes it OK to force people to leave their homes, lands, businesses, places of worship, farms etc etc so that Jews can take their place?

    Typical Zio talking point that is a complete and utter fucking fail. You cannot justify occupation, repression and ethnic cleaning simply because your displaced victims can go somewhere else.

    Dirty criminally minded people these Zios... angry
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:44 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:You cannot justify occupation, repression and ethnic cleaning simply because your displaced victims can go somewhere else.

    The only reason the West Bank is under Israeli control is because Jordan lost the offensive war they waged on Israel and ultimately gave up on it. West Bankers are basically Jordanians, they can either stay in Israel (if the Israelis want them and under conditions Israelis support or not) or go to Jordan and prosper.

    Happened before and still happens. Exchange of populations under official Treaty is a perfect acceptable way of sorting out modern armed conflict (Syria green buses circa 2018).

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    Post  starman Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:46 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    The only reason the West Bank is under Israeli control is because Jordan lost the offensive war they waged on Israel

    What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel, presumably to try to quiet those clamoring for action, and Israel seized upon this as a pretext to overrun the West Bank.


    Oh btw I just heard that rebels in Quneitra and along the border with Golan are to be evacuated, just like the others. So the SW operation is wrapped up already? Smile
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:54 pm

    starman wrote:What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel

    Lobbed a few shells and then got invaded and defeated.
    Sounds kosher to me.
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    Post  franco Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:26 pm

    starman wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    The only reason the West Bank is under Israeli control is because Jordan lost the offensive war they waged on Israel

    What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel, presumably to try to quiet those clamoring for action, and Israel seized upon this as a pretext to overrun the West Bank.


    Oh btw I just heard that rebels in Quneitra and along the border with Golan are to be evacuated, just like the others. So the SW operation is wrapped up already? Smile

    Still a large group of ISIS affiliated fighters bordering the Jordanian-Israeli border junction. They have no place to go to so...
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:43 pm

    starman wrote:.........
    What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel, presumably to try to quiet those clamoring for action, and Israel seized upon this as a pretext to overrun the West Bank..........

    Dude, I don't know what rules you have down there but over here lobbing a shell (singular) means declaration of war.
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    starman wrote:.........
    What "offensive war"?? In 1967 the Jordanians lobbed a few shells at Israel, presumably to try to quiet those clamoring for action, and Israel seized upon this as a pretext to overrun the West Bank..........

    Dude, I don't know what rules you have down there but over here lobbing a shell (singular) means declaration of war.  

    sod off HATO fanboiiiii

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    Post  starman Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:15 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dude, I don't know what rules you have down there but over here lobbing a shell (singular) means declaration of war.  

    Prior to '67 the Syrians occasionally shelled Israeli positions. The Israelis retaliated--when shelling caused deaths, as opposed to just property damage--but evidently didn't consider lobbing a few shells a casus belli. At least not until it gave them a pretext to steal the West Bank....
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    Post  starman Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:19 pm

    franco wrote:
    Still a large group of ISIS affiliated fighters bordering the Jordanian-Israeli border junction. They have no place to go to so...

    They'll have to be wiped out.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:39 pm

    starman wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dude, I don't know what rules you have down there but over here lobbing a shell (singular) means declaration of war.  

    Prior to '67 the Syrians occasionally shelled Israeli positions. The Israelis retaliated--when shelling caused deaths, as opposed to just property damage--but evidently didn't consider lobbing a few shells a casus belli. At least not until it gave them a pretext to steal the West Bank....

    So two countries were in armed conflict. Given that it was Israelis that you say retaliated it would mean that it was Syrians who started the whole mess?

    Regardless, once you start shooting it's war. No ''but it was some shells'' excuse works after that.

    If you don't want war don't fire shells (or anything else)
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    Post  KiloGolf Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:12 pm

    starman wrote:Prior to '67 the Syrians occasionally shelled Israeli positions

    And what enabled such shelling? The Golan Heights. Israel took them away and shelling stopped. Easy.

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