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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:46 pm


    So we are going back on topic when?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:49 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    So we are going back on topic when?

    Never, because our dumbass mods keep fakes and morons around that just screw up conversations with their BS.

    Lets be honest here, we have a lot of "experts" who claim to have such experience but they are nobodies. Mostly just keyboard warriors with quite the fantasy of a life.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:50 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    So we are going back on topic when?

    Never, because our dumbass mods keep fakes and morons around that just screw up conversations with their BS.

    Lets be honest here, we have a lot of "experts" who claim to have such experience but they are nobodies. Mostly just keyboard warriors with quite the fantasy of a life.


    Our mods are ones going off topic with them, like WTF?
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:50 am

    Correct, we were idiots in believing that the MIG-25 is anything like the F-15. By our standards, the MIG-25 was a POS. By yours? Anything you like.

    No. That would be ARE idiots if you still haven't worked out that the MiG-25 was never intended to be an F-15 like aircraft... in terms of interception performance the F-15 is pretty ordinary and would not have been effective, so even by your standards the F-15 is an over engineered POS interceptor only good for taking on third world countries after a few years of sanctions first.

    No, the F-35 will not fail. The F-35 is inevitable. The evolution of the fighter class itself is proof of that.

    It already has failed... it was supposed to be a super new stealth fighter that will penetrate Russian air defences with impunity because it will be invisible... and it wont even enter Syrian airspace...

    How many bombers have the Soviet Union and Russia sold? Not much. And for US, none.

    Su-34 and F-15E are strike aircraft... and the F-35 is not being sold as a bomber... it is being sold as a replacement for all 4th gen fighters for NATO and they are already developing alternatives...

    The usage of the fighter always evolved into the fighter-bomber because that is all the rest of the world's air forces can afford. The F-35 will be a success your Russia will not have.

    An airforce of one because that will be all they can afford... how to destroy NATO air power...

    Makes S-400/S-500 redundant really because there will be so few aircraft NATO can afford...

    Of course I would love to see them make 5,000 F-35s... that would help Russia no end.

    Both the F-15 and the MIG-25 came from the A-5 Vigilante. When I attended the technical presentation of the MIG-25, that was made clear in the first five minutes.

    Did they also say Saddam had WMDs ready to launch in 45 minutes warning?

    Can they explain why the MiG-25 had two side by side engines like the MiG-19 and the Vigilante, but the wings of the MiG-25 look nothing like the long swept wings of the Vigilante... which look rather more like the wings of the F-14 and nothing like the F-15... and the Vigilante has a single vertical tail structure like the MiG-19... if anything the Vigilante looks like the Tu-128 in layout and planform, but the F-15 looks almost identical to the MiG-25, yet the MiG-25 really doesn't look much like the Vigilante at all...
    Ironically if the Vigilante looks like any aircraft it is the British TSR-2 but with a more swept back smaller wing for low altitude high speed flight.


    Our mods are ones going off topic with them, like WTF?

    Sorry your majesty... like you never ever go off topic.

    I will shift the off topic stuff tomorrow.

    BTW 4 day break for Mike... it is the sort of thing dumbass mods like me do.
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:16 pm

    I cant take people serious who doubt the moon landing.

    All nations followed this, including the USSR. This is totally out of debate.

    As for the communist rubbish.

    People are different. We have different IQ, different boy strength. Different looks. We team up with those close to us.

    I dont team up with people who have an IQ below 100. I dont team up with people of different skills or whatever.

    I absolutely and in evry way hate evrything even remotely communist. I even hate socialism.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:31 am

    So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.
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    Post  Aristide on Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.

    The cow that makes the milk i drink is low iq as well. Same counts for tge chicken that lays eggs.

    Thats what workers are for. I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:22 pm

    Aristide wrote:...... I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Are you trying to have political discussion here or are you advertising your gay prostitution services? Suspect

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    Post  Aristide on Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:30 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:...... I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Are you trying to have political discussion here or are you advertising your gay prostitution services?   Suspect


    Sorry, im not into that. You might look elsewhere if interested for such service.

    Beside that, using homosexuality as something to insult or provocate someone? Really?
    You shouldnt do that, it appears primitive and makes you target of hillbilly comments in Europe.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:51 am

    Aristide wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.

    The cow that makes the milk i drink is low iq as well. Same counts for tge chicken that lays eggs.

    Thats what workers are for. I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Aristide wrote:Beside that, using homosexuality as something to insult or provocate someone? Really?
    You shouldnt do that, it appears primitive and makes you target of hillbilly comments in Europe.

    You shouldn't put road builder as the same level as dairy cows and chickens. It appears completely stupid, it shows that you have zero IQ, that you do not have the ability to be thankful and makes you target of criticism in the whole world.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:52 am

    Aristide wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.

    The cow that makes the milk i drink is low iq as well. Same counts for tge chicken that lays eggs.

    Thats what workers are for. I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    1) Aristide does not work. His income comes from exploitation of the labour of others.

    2) Aristide's body is useless. It is not used for making any contribution to this world. Aristide's body is just a bunch of useless muscle mas which has no use, which cannot do anything to build and maintain this society.

    3) Aristide considers workers is at the same level of animals. Similar to a slave owners who treat his slaves, and that viewpoint is a gross violation against basic human rights and human dignity.

    4) Aristide only care about his own freedom and interest, he is willing to trample on others freedom to increase his own, he is willing to trample on other humans including members of Russia Defence Forum if that suits his own interest.

    5) Consider these above points I propose a permanent ban against Aristide. This forum is only for any individual who respects others' basic human rights and dignity, not for individuals who have such a disgusting viewpoint like above.
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    Post  Regular on Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:31 am

    Aristide wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.

    The cow that makes the milk i drink is low iq as well. Same counts for tge chicken that lays eggs.

    Thats what workers are for. I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Milk is terribly bad for you. As a bodybuilder you should known that. I had stones removed from me when thanks to it. There are better sources of calcium.

    Also, most of the road workers have it easy- their job might be somewhat physical demanding because they are exposed to elements, but it's highly regulated.

    There's nothing to be ashamed from doing manual labour.
    I've did my share of dirty jobs as a student. I drove trucks while I when I moved out to fund my personal development.
    My father had plastic windows/isolation/furniture company and in early 90s and I was his labourer, driver, security guard, buhalter and muscle if someone was late paying up. I would be wrong saying that I earned the most money in my life in 90s by installing plastic windows, micron foil, thermal insulation than what I've earn in my own wee company now. It was a joy of having little to no competition.

    Oh yes, I've worked in Norway as well - where I was literally stacking tyres in yard and then took them to Lithuania on a truck. Tyres that were literally thrown out for disposal in Norway were sold for good money after refurbishment in Lithuania. Now I was working hard as a slave in cotton plantation, but reward was motivating as I was self employed and couldn't spare unreliable man to do my job. Manual labour jobs could have turned millions of dollars without even paying vat due to nature of business in interior decoration as well. This what my wife's family did. Tho, sudden influx of money destroyed them.

    Now my best friend works with dangerous/explosive material transportation and he has fireworks company too and he does all the hard lifting in his 50s. He hires people to run social media, deal with authorities and etc, he just drives and sets up displays.. one of the richest people from poor background I know. Earns loads of money from breeding horses too and renting countryside houses/properties for weddings and parties. No job is below him.
    It's all about who you work for- you will find a good employee/employer balance if you are self employed Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:41 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Aristide wrote:...... I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Are you trying to have political discussion here or are you advertising your gay prostitution services?   Suspect


    Sorry, im not into that. You might look elsewhere if interested for such service.

    You are one trying to sell his bum online, I was just pointing out that you are doing it in wrong location

    And you don't need to be into that in order to get paid for renting your services, as an Arab immigrant who for some reason spends most of his time in spa and shooting roids you should know that



    Aristide wrote:
    Beside that, using homosexuality as something to insult or provocate someone? Really?
    You shouldnt do that, it appears primitive and makes you target of hillbilly comments in Europe.


    It's not insult, just observation​

    Sorry if it hit close to home



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    Post  Aristide on Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:41 pm

    Regular wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    GarryB wrote:So if a person of below average IQ made the ashphalt used in the roads near where you live you will refuse to use them?

    Most of the low IQ people I know are much more honest and less manipulative than some of the smarter people I know... and while there is a threshold... really dumb people don't stay rich very long, but the smartest people are not always the richest... Bill Gates is not that smart... what he is is ruthless.

    The cow that makes the milk i drink is low iq as well. Same counts for tge chicken that lays eggs.

    Thats what workers are for. I have the body to build streets. I do competive bodybuilding. But i use it to train and work out and chill in the spa. Im not a worker.

    Milk is terribly bad for you. As a bodybuilder you should known that. I had stones removed from me when thanks to it. There are better sources of calcium.

    Also, most of the road workers have it easy- their job might be somewhat physical demanding because they are exposed to elements, but it's highly regulated.

    There's nothing to be ashamed from doing manual labour.
    I've did my share of dirty jobs as a student. I drove trucks while I when I moved out to fund my personal development.
    My father had plastic windows/isolation/furniture company and in early 90s and I was his labourer, driver, security guard, buhalter and muscle if someone was late paying up. I would be wrong saying that I earned the most money in my life in 90s by installing plastic windows, micron foil, thermal insulation than what I've earn in my own wee company now. It was a joy of having little to no competition.

    Oh yes, I've worked in Norway as well - where I was literally stacking tyres in yard and then took them to Lithuania on a truck. Tyres that were literally thrown out for disposal in Norway were sold for good money after refurbishment in Lithuania. Now I was working hard as a slave in cotton plantation, but reward was motivating as I was self employed and couldn't spare unreliable man to do my job. Manual labour jobs could have turned millions of dollars without even paying vat due to nature of business in interior decoration as well. This what my wife's family did. Tho, sudden influx of money destroyed them.

    Now my best friend works with dangerous/explosive material transportation and he has fireworks company too and he does all the hard lifting in his 50s. He hires people to run social media, deal with authorities and etc, he just drives and sets up displays.. one of the richest people from poor background I know. Earns loads of money from breeding horses too and renting countryside houses/properties for weddings and parties. No job is below him.
    It's all about who you work for- you will find a good employee/employer balance if you are self employed Smile

    I Ddrnk mostly soy milk.
    Also i have high respect for workers. I just could imagine to do such work like building a street. Maybe i expressed wrong.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:47 pm

    Aristide wrote:I Ddrnk mostly soy milk...

    And not a single person was surprised



    Aristide wrote:...Also i have high respect for workers. I just could imagine to do such work like building a street.

    I am sure that they could never imagine themselves in your line of "work" either

    But I do doubt that respect would go both ways in this case



    Aristide wrote:...Maybe i expressed wrong.

    Nah, you definitely hit the nail on the head with that one



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    Post  Aristide on Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:46 pm

    Well we all have to earn money.

    I earn money as fitness coach and influence on instagram. I have clients in my own town which i help to reach their fitness goals and i also make online tutorials and individual
    fitness programs. I make advertising for fitness products and participare in fitness videos and commercials.

    Thats the work i do and i love my job. I can do what makes me happy and can have a good life with it.

    I have respect for people who do their jobs. I´m my own boss and can decide about my daily routine. I think i could not work in a job where a boss tells me what to do.

    When we were on a ship, we had a tour down in engine room and also the laundry. In the laundry it was loud, hot and hard to breath. I have much respect for people who work down there.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:22 am

    I have much respect for people who work down there.

    But that is the point... you don't have any respect for anyone... you called them inferior on many occasions.

    You have said a lot of things and now that the majority disapprove you are trying to backtrack... I have even less respect for you now.
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    Post  Aristide on Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:18 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I have much respect for people who work down there.

    But that is the point... you don't have any respect for anyone... you called them inferior on many occasions.

    You have said a lot of things and now that the majority disapprove you are trying to backtrack... I have even less respect for you now.

    I dont backtrack. I say what i think.

    Its a simple fact that all humans are individuals and different. I would definitly not be happy in a communist tyranny and do evrything i could to either get out or resistance. I live in a society that gives opportunity. A commjnist system has no opportunity. It reduces humans to mere cattle status where nothing can be reached for the individual.

    Beside that, its a good feeling to fight communists, it feels just great to let their sick dogma fail.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:00 am

    But isn't that the situation you love... you being priviledged and French and others being workers in their own little pieces of France... there to serve you.

    Do you not realise that for most people being there to serve the few that communism or socialism appeals because it improves their situation from slave to menial cog in a greater machine.

    Communist systems still need managers and ideas people, it just changes the focus from wealth to power...

    Amusing that you have said you would not bother fighting the German Nazis during WWII, but that somehow communism is worse and would motivate you to get off your lazy social ass and risk your life to fight them.

    Have you not asked yourself why that is?

    I mean you are not interested in freedom and rights for the peasants that bring you drinks on your holidays, so we can dismiss you doing it because it is the right and moral thing to do.

    You have been programmed very well... by people who made their fortunes in the current political structures and want to keep their fortunes even though they have rather more money than they could sensibly ever spend themselves, but their fear is that instead of a few having way too much and a majority having enough most of the time and a few with not enough... ie democracy and freedom and all that shit that America talked about when it actually meant what it was talking about... but the problem is that it is not self regulating and needs rules to stop all the wealth going to a few and everyone else not having enough... as depicted in Zombie movies where the majority don't have anything left to lose and start eating the rich and the others who have done well... it was no mistake the original movie took place in a shopping mall... the centre of American consumerism mantra.

    Communism is about the distribution of wealth and work in a way that everyone can survive at a level of comfort... people don't go hungry and everyone gets a job and a house... and the abuse of capitalism and democracy is making it look more and more appealing to more and more people who have no obvious future in the current structure where the easiest way to earn money is with money... you earn more money by using money to create more money than actually working for a living...

    The greedy few are breaking democracy... destroying it from the inside, but I am sure they will be glad to hear you will fight to keep those 1%ers rich and earning more and more money...
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:46 am

    GarryB wrote:But isn't that the situation you love... you being priviledged and French and others being workers in their own little pieces of France... there to serve you.

    Do you not realise that for most people being there to serve the few that communism or socialism appeals because it improves their situation from slave to menial cog in a greater machine.

    Communist systems still need managers and ideas people, it just changes the focus from wealth to power...

    Amusing that you have said you would not bother fighting the German Nazis during WWII, but that somehow communism is worse and would motivate you to get off your lazy social ass and risk your life to fight them.

    Have you not asked yourself why that is?

    I mean you are not interested in freedom and rights for the peasants that bring you drinks on your holidays, so we can dismiss you doing it because it is the right and moral thing to do.

    You have been programmed very well... by people who made their fortunes in the current political structures and want to keep their fortunes even though they have rather more money than they could sensibly ever spend themselves, but their fear is that instead of a few having way too much and a majority having enough most of the time and a few with not enough... ie democracy and freedom and all that shit that America talked about when it actually meant what it was talking about... but the problem is that it is not self regulating and needs rules to stop all the wealth going to a few and everyone else not having enough... as depicted in Zombie movies where the majority don't have anything left to lose and start eating the rich and the others who have done well... it was no mistake the original movie took place in a shopping mall... the centre of American consumerism mantra.

    Communism is about the distribution of wealth and work in a way that everyone can survive at a level of comfort... people don't go hungry and everyone gets a job and a house... and the abuse of capitalism and democracy is making it look more and more appealing to more and more people who have no obvious future in the current structure where the easiest way to earn money is with money... you earn more money by using money to create more money than actually working for a living...

    The greedy few are breaking democracy... destroying it from the inside, but I am sure they will be glad to hear you will fight to keep those 1%ers rich and earning more and more money...

    No communism is about downfall. Facism and communism are two sides of the same coin.

    Ever wondered why the smartest minds and most creative people run away from such regimes?

    Evry progress can only live in competition. Communism means stagnation and regression. You think an Elon Musk could thrieve in a communist regime? The USSR existed in a twilight zone. It only progressed as long it could compete with the west. But was deeply rotten inside.

    Art, beauty and style are the first things that die in any communist regime. Then follow creativity and intellect.

    The people vote with their feet Gary.

    In Germany it was not the west Germans who run by the millions into the "worker paradise" of east germany. East Germany had to build a wall to keep their own people in. And even that was about to fail, when the people ripped the wall down.

    You know France was against german reunion? We saw a possible enemy rise again. Our then president Mitterand conspired with Thatcher to stop the german reunion. But he realized thats impossible. The east german people demanded to crush communism. They fled by the millions out of the "worker paradise". So France agreed to the reunion.

    I will never accept any form of communism in France and i would with great joy join forces to destroy such a regime. And because of that, communism will always fail. There are many millions like me. And any system based on communism always massive sabotage from inside.



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    Post  Regular on Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:28 pm

    I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:23 pm

    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
    not a bad idea, the problem is the large part of the population in EU states that have been brainwashed, and now even by law you're not allowed to protect more the natives compared to immigrants.

    Also the EU forced integration is excessive. There are entire political parties that want to throw in the bin all of the national histories and substitute the national ideas, cultures and values with a blend of pseudotolerant multi culti, genderfree, borderfree new value, of course replacing all of our national languages with English and relegating them to a sort of second rate dialect.

    Many new-left parties want to appear good, or better and more tolerant than the others, destroying in the process everything built until now in our countries. They are a sort of western version of Gorbachev, that I still do not understand if he was just a traitor or a pathological person that was ready to destroy the future of all the nations in USSR just to be acclaimed as an hero in the west, as when he visited Italy and immensely enjoyed being "loved" from the crowds...
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    Post  Aristide on Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:29 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.
    not a bad idea, the problem is the large part of the population in EU states that have been brainwashed, and now even by law you're not allowed to protect more the natives compared to immigrants.

    Also the EU forced integration is excessive. There are entire political parties that want to throw in the bin all of the national histories and substitute the national ideas, cultures and values with a blend of pseudotolerant multi culti, genderfree, borderfree new value, of course replacing all of our national languages with English and relegating them to a sort of second rate dialect.

    Many new-left parties want to appear good, or better and more tolerant than the others, destroying in the process everything built until now in our countries. They are a sort of western version of Gorbachev, that I still do not understand if he was just a traitor or a pathological person that was ready to destroy the future of all the nations in USSR just to be acclaimed as an hero in the west, as when he visited Italy and immensely enjoyed being "loved" from the crowds...

    You ignore the massive rise of far right in the EU and that the left is more and more marginalized.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:14 am

    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.



    Lots of people miss the Communist period in Poland, but these are predominantly people who lived during that time, and they are fewer and fewer in number.

    On the other hand, those who never lived under Communism, or were extremely young at that time - or the young and dumb generation - are often the most anti-Communist. But there is lots of anti-Communist brain-washing in Poland.


    You tell me who is more correct? People who lived under Communism clearly know better than those who did not.


    Many people in Poland say that the Communist-era generation is being condemned to a quick extinction, because they are very inconvenient witnesses.

    Terrible health care, very high suicide rate, extreme poverty, bad food quality. Yes, the inconvenient witnesses are being eliminated.



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    Post  Regular on Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:32 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Regular wrote:I personally believe there should be sweet spot between socialism and capitalism. There should be social protection for native working force so they won't be replaced by cheap alternatives from abroad. There should be social incentive to support development according to marked realities and weed out unwanted professions, career paths from colleges.
    Women should be able to raise children and home and men should be able to earn money to sufficiently support the family.
    Deviants, gays, single incels should be marginalized and flushed down the toilet.

    Hard and dirty jobs like diver/welder on the rigs now could earn a worker 300-500k per year for few dives. There's a risk of getting bends or getting crushed, but work that involves risk of life should be well rewarded.
    Working class should be encouraged to spend money and put it back in circulation.

    Basically, my utopia is 70s USSR mixed with 60s US.



    Lots of people miss the Communist period in Poland, but these are predominantly people who lived during that time, and they are fewer and fewer in number.

    On the other hand, those who never lived under Communism, or were extremely young at that time - or the young and dumb generation - are often the most anti-Communist. But there is lots of anti-Communist brain-washing in Poland.  


    You tell me who is more correct? People who lived under Communism clearly know better than those who did not.


    Many people in Poland say that the Communist-era generation is being condemned to a quick extinction, because they are very inconvenient witnesses.

    Terrible health care, very high suicide rate, extreme poverty, bad food quality. Yes, the inconvenient witnesses are being eliminated.




    Hahaha, Poland is not that bad!
    It's much much better than Romania, Serbia, Slovakia and it's pretty much most stable Eastern European country.
    You have shit wages, reliance on EU and US and Ukrainian immigrants, but it's much much worse for other countries.

    I remember when poles used to come to Lithuania with their Polski fiats and buy snaige fridges and put it on their roofs.. fridges were bigger than their cars. And now Lithuanians go to Poland to shop and buy food, LG electronics and clothing.
    Belarussians now have it worse as well.

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