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    Russian defence against drone swarms

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    Post  GarryB Wed May 29, 2024 2:03 pm

    I have hunted ducks for many years.

    I have never shot a bird with any type of firearm. I have shot a lot of rabbits and fast moving small vermin like stoats and ferrets and weasels.

    I have two twin barrel over and under 12 gauge shotguns and one side by side twin barrel 12 gauge shotguns... all Russian, plus a Remmington five shot semi auto and a Japanese SKB five shot semi auto.

    Was about to buy a Saiga or a Vepr but an immigrant ruined that for me by being a dick.

    In terms of soldiers I would say a Saiga or a Vepr would be simpler and easier for Soldiers to learn to use and there is nothing inherently about a pistol grip or a box mag that means you can't shoot things in the air or small fast moving things on the ground.

    Learning to lead a moving target is something you have to practise because it is a combination of distance and speed... faster targets and greater distances require more lead.

    The video I posted above shows that at 35m even a short barrel Saiga gets the job done with a level of density which should get a few good hits with every pull of the trigger.

    Shotguns don't work like lasers... it is not the case that a long barrel and a super tight choke will double the effective range and with different ammo types you really do have to test it because sometimes the spread of pellets is uneven and there are huge gaps in your patterns where nothing would get hit and you can't control where those gaps are.

    Going to a lighter shot helps make the patterns more dense but also reduces the effect of hits too... and reduces effective range.

    Really light shot as used in clay bird shooting has a huge number of pellets but wont cycle my semi auto shotgun because it is not designed for such light loads.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:08 pm

    So it seems the GShG-7.62 gatling gun is an upgrade of the old model. The gas powered model overheated which limited its firing endurance.

    The new model has an electric motor so the rate of fire can be changed from 5 rounds a second to 100 rounds per second (300rpm to 6,000rpm).

    The original 12.7mm four barrel gatling gun used in the nose turret of the Hind also overheated so they redesigned it and made it heavier so it could fire off the entire store of ammo without overheating... the original YakB-12.7 was 45kgs, while the improved YakBYu-12.7 was 60kgs.

    In comparison the original GShG-7.62 was 19kgs.

    Here is one of the new videos popping up about it... they have found a small calibre gatling gun fired from the cabin door of a helicopter is the best way to shoot sea surface drones...

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:18 pm

    So this new shotgun ammo with the kevlar strands linking lead weights seems to be effective to about 75m which is rather good for a shotgun round.

    In addition to using by individual soldiers it would also be useful to mount in drones to create a fighter type with forward firing perhaps belt fed 12 gauge shotguns.

    Having a belt feed would mean it would be easier to carry rather more rounds than could be fitted in a box magazine or a drum magazine.

    Some sort of linkless feed system could allow a large volume of fire without creating the danger area a rifle calibre machine gun would create on the battlefield.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:07 pm



    To combat FPV drones... a drone...

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:08 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    To combat FPV drones... a drone...

    did you see its name? WallE lol1 lol1 lol1  to collect ukro -trash EW is as good as long FPV wont switch to AI based optical target finding/aiming. So we got some time ahead.

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:10 pm

    https://rostec.ru/news/roselektronika-vpervye-predstavlyaet-v-belorussii-resheniya-po-zashchite-obektov-ot-bpla-/

    For the first time in Belarus, Ruselectronics presents solutions for the protection of facilities from UAVs

    For the first time, Ruselectronics Holding of Rostec State Corporation presents the latest means for protecting facilities from UAV attacks at the II International Exhibition of the Security Industry "National Security. Belarus-2024", which takes place from June 19 to 21 in Minsk. The equipment allows you to detect not only the drone itself, but also its operator, and also provides effective counteraction to FPV drones that are now actively used.

    As part of the Russian exposition, the Vector Research Institute, which is part of Ruselectronics, demonstrates the Serp-VS6 automated electronic suppression system for small UAVs and radio monitoring equipment (RM). The devices are successfully operated and provide reliable protection of protected facilities in Russia.

    Serp-VS6 can combat modern UAVs at a range of up to 5 km using GNSS signals under the condition of direct radio visibility, and is also capable of suppressing FPV drones (first-person view) due to the expanded frequency range. In addition, the device can counteract several drones flying from different directions at once.

    Serp-VS6 can be used both autonomously at a remote position and near the control point, providing protection for mobile or stationary objects. Combining disparate devices into a single complex allows you to organize the protection of large areas.

    The RM equipment tracks UAVs by their own control signal and communication channels, this data allows you to identify the drone and the operator. At the same time, the product is invisible to other radio equipment, since it does not have active radio radiation.

    "Drone protection is the new reality of security systems not only in Russia, but also abroad. We are ready to offer our Belarusian partners our advanced developments to equip facilities with electronic systems for monitoring, detecting and suppressing UAVs. At the exhibition in Minsk, we are presenting our anti-drone solutions, which have already shown their effectiveness at critical infrastructure facilities in Russia," said Vyacheslav Lyashuk, Business Development Director of the Vector Research Institute.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:57 pm

    Another item of belarussian design being tested by Russia...

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    Post  Kiko Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:24 pm

    New Russian Radar Can Spot Tiniest Drones, 06.22.2024.

    The product has been showcased at the Flot-2024 International Naval Show.

    Russia's Iney (lit. 'hoar frost') compact radar station is capable of detecting very small drones, Georgy Antsev, general director and chief designer of producing company Radar mms, told Sputnik.

    "Our specialists have developed the Iney compact radar station with an active phased array antenna (APAA). This radar is designed to detect, among other things, very small drones, such as Maviсs and other drones of similar size," Antsev said.

    According to him, Iney can detect very small UAVs at a distance of up to 5 kilometers, while it sees larger targets "much further." The system includes a database that allows it to distinguish between different types of drones and birds.

    "Several Iney complexes can be installed at airfields and extensive critical infrastructure sites, creating a continuous radar field around them. Moreover, due to its small size, Iney can be mounted on various weapon systems, turning it into an onboard radar," Antsev explained.

    Research and production enterprise Radar mms is one of the Russian leaders in the creation of radio-electronic systems and complexes. The company’s areas of work include radar systems, robotics, unmanned aerial vehicles, meteorological and magnetometric systems, as well as high-speed vessels and sea-based complexes.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240622/new-russian-radar-can-spot-tiniest-drones-1119060515.html

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