Russian Navy: Status & News #4

PapaDragon wrote:

dino00 wrote:Since 2020, USC will take two to three nuclear submarines a year.

Corporation President Alexei Rakhmanov noted that this exceeds the pace of Soviet shipbuilding

"The volume of orders, which fall on the Northern Machine-Building Enterprise, is already even higher than what was in the Soviet years. Starting next year, we will take two or three submarines a year," said Rakhmanov, adding about nuclear submarines.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6238180

Excellent news.

More Yasens please, at least 1 per year, preferably 2

Hole wrote:But you have to build ships/subs to be in delay.

Will be more like 1 Yassen-M + 1 Borei-A a year. Plus 1 Khabarovsk (at least for three years).

Isos wrote:

Plus the 6 kilo for pacific fleet.

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PapaDragon wrote:
I heard rumor that there are 4 unfinished Oscar-class hulls in Sevmash.  

Is is true?

Tsavo Lion wrote:
Perhaps they caught corrupted contractors & nipped their scams in the bud! Or maybe they wanted dipper modernization at 1st & then decided that it wasn't mission essential, esp. with other priorities.
China now has 2 CVs with a 3rd on the way; they'll keep the USN + their allies busy. It's cheaper to build & operate subs with Poseidons capable of sinking entire CSGs along with coastal bases & cities.

Tsavo Lion wrote:In ur estimation, how long before those priorities change towards conventional arms?
IMO, they'll be dedicating substantial resources to non-nuclear precision arms while renewing SSBN & strategic bomber fleets.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Then, CV/Ns r not urgent to have, UDKs will be built 1st, & the Adm. K will sailor on with new CMs for another 2 decades, if not more.

Isos wrote:

Not really. They just re-armed the black sea fleet with 3 frigates and 6 new subs and 3 more frigates are suppose to come.

Kalibr plateforms are a priority too.

They will export nothing if they don't produce the ships for their own navy. Their shipyards already suffer bad reputation, who would buy them ships that exist only in catalogues if their worker don't knkw how to produce them ?

Isos wrote:First they ordered Boreis for nuclear deterence for pacific and northern fleets and got them really fast.

Then Baltic fleet received new Steregoushchys.

Then Black sea fleet received new Grigorovitch and Kilos as nato is more active in ukraine, syria and baltics. They needed kalibr plateforms.

They armed the smaller fleets with smaller ship.

Now they ordered 6 new kilo for pacific. Even if pacific is not the priority for russia. US and Chinese are too much occupied countering each other to pose any threat to Russia.

They got the first gorshkov with more being build. Yasen are also coming. Karakurts are also being produced in mass.

They also got many coast guard ships. They bought new su-30SM for naval aviation, upgraded il-38

All that in less than 15 years. It is not going as fast as the chinese but the procurment plan is going nicely and logicaly. The navy was always the third in russian armed force priority. At this rythm, heli carriers will start being laid down in 5 or 6 years.

It's not only helping export ships. They are getting an all new navy.


And the ships proved to be very effective as Grigorovitch posed problems to french navy and kilo chased away a british sub during the attack on Syria.

PapaDragon wrote:
Ain't nothing wrong with corvette Navy as long as corvettes are getting built in sufficient numbers

Problem is that they aren't at the moment

JohninMK wrote:

Surely the Navy only needs a surface blue water fleet if it is intending to attack US carriers at sea. I thought the strike aircraft were for that task. As such, the submarines and frigates/corvettes are pretty much up to the task of nuclear deterrence and homeland defence. In many ways even the K is a brown water ship.