There is actually a reasonable argument to be made that the Afganit APS with the hard-kill systems on the T-14 can already defeat "top attack" munitions like the Javelin.
Afganit and Standard are the new APS systems and both have been developed after diving top attack anti tank missiles became a serious consideration.
One could argue that copperhead predates all these APS systems but the range and low speed of copperhead and its cost means it wont be widely used and should be fairly straight forward for TOR units to deal with because its trajectory is enormous and the weapon itself not particularly fast.
Javelin will be launched from much closer range, and while it is even slower, the distance the TOR units will be from armour would make reliable and regular interception much less likely.
When Drozd and Arena were designed the only top attack threat was Copperhead (handled by TOR) and BILL an BILL 2, which both could probably deal with in their original forms simply by the way they worked... BILL/2 flys at 2-3m above the line of sight and when it detects a big lump of metal (ie tank or armoured vehicle) it sets off its warhead which explodes down at the top of the vehicle... its actual flight path is flat and level so the Arena munition should still get it, and Drozd would likely get it too as they are not designed to precisely impact the target, they both spread a controlled shower of fragments in specific directions where the target is expected to be... so there is a lot of leeway in terms of interception parameters.
Afganit (for heavy vehicles) and Standard (for lighter vehicles) were both developed after Javelin became a thing so I would expect they are intended for use against them as well.
First, the significantly reduced thermal signature of the T-14 and possible (very speculative) "dynamic" exhausting at different parts of the tank already making the Javelin's targeting device and thermal imager on the missile itself hard to use reliably; the possibility to quickly deploy aerosols, thus blocking the targeting (which, with Javelin, can take a long time, especially against a target with low thermal signature), is almost guaranteed to be used considering the T-14 has a laser warning system, UV-sensors that detect missile exhaust and 360° infrared and radar surveillance.
Agreed. We chatted about Shtora becoming redundant, while some members think it is no longer a think I personally suspect the detection and smoke systems of Shtora continue to be used... I just suspect the IR jammers have probably be replaced with much more sophisticated laser based systems which might not be being shown to the public at the moment. There has been a lot of progress in DIRCMS systems for aircraft to defeat IR guided missiles, and I suspect similar progress has probably been made with tanks.
ATGMs are not IR guided, but many tanks use IR trackers to determine where their missiles are in flight so they can calculate how far they are from the aim point and therefore the flight commands needed to manouver the missile from where it is into the line of sight and on target. That includes wire guided missiles like Sagger and Fagot and Konkurs and Metis as well as western types like Milan and HOT and TOW, but also radio command guided missiles like Shturm and old model Ataka.
Newer model Ataka and Kornet and the Bulat and Krisantema have laser beam riding guidance... the laser beam is boresighted to the aiming reticle or can be adjusted to a few metres above so the missile does not hit trees or bushes or wires on the way to the target... the launcher makes no calculations, the missile looks back at the launcher and determines its own position in the beam and manouvers itself into the centre so flashers and dazzlers and lasers from the target make no difference...
Javelin would likely not get a lock on T-14 because of its IR camo, so most of the time would need to be launched like a conventional Metis like wire guided missile without the top attack approach.
This seems to suggest that even a "top attack" Javelin, especially if the tank deploys aerosols above itself, will be able to be destroyed by the Afganit's hard kill system if all else fails.
Yes, Javelin is not all that it is cracked up to be either... and with 750mm penetration at 0 degrees used in conventional mode, the very slow javelin should be fairly straight forward to stop... made even more so because the low flight speed means guiding the missile for quite some time even over relatively short distances...
Considering its price I think it is very overrated.... I remember in the 1980s the British loved their Milan... mainly for the MIRA thermal sights they got with them... I seem to remember the recon forces used to pinch them because of the remarkable view of the battlefield thermal sights give at night or in smoky conditions.
Well these days most ATGMs come with thermal sights for use at night... the simple guidance of a Konkurs means the launcher itself doesn't need to see the target at all, and it tracks the missiles via their flares which it can do in the dark anyway. It will control the missile to fly along the path designated by the crosshairs without having any clue where or what the target is. You just need a thermal imager over the sight so you can see the target to put the crosshairs on to hit it... as long as it is in range...