Why couldn't the BRM-1 and the BRM-3 detect Ukrainian ambushes with their radars at the beginning of the war. They should be sensitive enough to detect rifles and ATGM mounts
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BMP-1 and BMP-2 in Russian Army
GarryB- Posts : 35800
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- Post n°277
Re: BMP-1 and BMP-2 in Russian Army
They detect inbound rounds... what are you suggesting... having these recon vehicles at the front and when any Orc force tries to ambush the Russian column these vehicles will detect the incoming rounds and what... tell the other vehicles to take cover because there are incoming rounds?
A few seconds after the enemy fire those rounds they impact... even if they detected the enemy rounds as they left the muzzles of the weapons firing them how much time do you think that recon vehicle has to alert the rest of the convoy and what are they supposed to do in the fractions of a second before those rounds impact their targets?
Having battle field radar does not stop enemy artillery from being used or ambushes being sprung, but they do record the direction and origin of the fire which can be passed to nearby artillery and helicopter units so they can deal with the source of fire relatively quickly.
that means enemy forces will still ambush and still attack Russian forces but if they do their job properly they only get to do it once and might be spotted by drone before they open fire so they might not get any shots off... but that would be rare I would say.... or should I say very lucky.
In an ambush by the time the enemy are firing you don't need a radar vehicle to tell you it is an ambush.
A few seconds after the enemy fire those rounds they impact... even if they detected the enemy rounds as they left the muzzles of the weapons firing them how much time do you think that recon vehicle has to alert the rest of the convoy and what are they supposed to do in the fractions of a second before those rounds impact their targets?
Having battle field radar does not stop enemy artillery from being used or ambushes being sprung, but they do record the direction and origin of the fire which can be passed to nearby artillery and helicopter units so they can deal with the source of fire relatively quickly.
that means enemy forces will still ambush and still attack Russian forces but if they do their job properly they only get to do it once and might be spotted by drone before they open fire so they might not get any shots off... but that would be rare I would say.... or should I say very lucky.
In an ambush by the time the enemy are firing you don't need a radar vehicle to tell you it is an ambush.
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franco- Posts : 5884
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- Post n°278
Re: BMP-1 and BMP-2 in Russian Army
A batch of modernized BRM-1K reconnaissance combat vehicles was delivered to the special operation zone
A batch of modernized combat reconnaissance vehicles BRM-1K entered the zone of the special military operation. The equipment is still in the rear areas of the Northern Military District, the crews are being trained.
At the training grounds in the Zaporozhye region, the Russian military is mastering the modernized BRM-1K reconnaissance combat vehicles; soon this equipment will go to the front line to participate in hostilities. As the military themselves say, the equipment is modern, it differs from the old BMPs for the better, and there are no difficulties in preparation.
New equipment has arrived - BRM-1K, and we have been training since December. (...) Everything works, everything is fine, and there are no difficulties, since we previously trained on BMPs and now everything is easier: loading ammunition, and disassembling weapons, complex no, it takes a little practice - RIA Novosti quotes the words of one of the Russian servicemen.
The Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the supply of BRM-1K in 2020, the first vehicles began to enter the troops in the past. The main difference between the BRM-1K and its predecessors is a new turret from the BTR-82A with a 30 mm automatic cannon and a PKT machine gun, which replaced the "classic" BMP-1 turret with a 73 mm 2A28 Grom cannon. In addition, the car received a new engine, modern communications and on-board electronics. The equipment was equipped with new navigation equipment, reconnaissance and surveillance equipment.
Crew - six people - the commander of the vehicle (he is also a gunner-operator), a driver, an operator of tank navigation equipment, a senior reconnaissance officer, a radio operator, a senior operator.
BRM-1K is a combat reconnaissance vehicle designed to conduct reconnaissance on the battlefield at any time of the day and in any weather. Developed on the basis of the BMP-1, it entered service with the Soviet army in the early 70s of the last century. The development of a modernized version was carried out at the design bureau of the Rubtsovsk Machine-Building Plant (a branch of UVZ), work began in the early 2000s.
https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/210884-v-zonu-specoperacii-postavlena-partija-modernizirovannyh-boevyh-mashin-razvedki-brm-1k.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
A batch of modernized combat reconnaissance vehicles BRM-1K entered the zone of the special military operation. The equipment is still in the rear areas of the Northern Military District, the crews are being trained.
At the training grounds in the Zaporozhye region, the Russian military is mastering the modernized BRM-1K reconnaissance combat vehicles; soon this equipment will go to the front line to participate in hostilities. As the military themselves say, the equipment is modern, it differs from the old BMPs for the better, and there are no difficulties in preparation.
New equipment has arrived - BRM-1K, and we have been training since December. (...) Everything works, everything is fine, and there are no difficulties, since we previously trained on BMPs and now everything is easier: loading ammunition, and disassembling weapons, complex no, it takes a little practice - RIA Novosti quotes the words of one of the Russian servicemen.
The Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the supply of BRM-1K in 2020, the first vehicles began to enter the troops in the past. The main difference between the BRM-1K and its predecessors is a new turret from the BTR-82A with a 30 mm automatic cannon and a PKT machine gun, which replaced the "classic" BMP-1 turret with a 73 mm 2A28 Grom cannon. In addition, the car received a new engine, modern communications and on-board electronics. The equipment was equipped with new navigation equipment, reconnaissance and surveillance equipment.
Crew - six people - the commander of the vehicle (he is also a gunner-operator), a driver, an operator of tank navigation equipment, a senior reconnaissance officer, a radio operator, a senior operator.
BRM-1K is a combat reconnaissance vehicle designed to conduct reconnaissance on the battlefield at any time of the day and in any weather. Developed on the basis of the BMP-1, it entered service with the Soviet army in the early 70s of the last century. The development of a modernized version was carried out at the design bureau of the Rubtsovsk Machine-Building Plant (a branch of UVZ), work began in the early 2000s.
https://topwar-ru.translate.goog/210884-v-zonu-specoperacii-postavlena-partija-modernizirovannyh-boevyh-mashin-razvedki-brm-1k.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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