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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:41 pm

    Not a whole lot captured from the former Russian base. And a lot of those AK's were clearly for SAA. They must have known about the incoming attack and knew they were under manned to hold off.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:44 pm

    To "Morlach": PM me please when you get the occasion.

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    Post  wilhelm Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:54 pm

    The hysterical bleating and whining from the BBC I've seen on some sites is hilarious.
    They really are rubbish...I doubt a 10 year old believes much of the utter rubbish they simply make up these days. Laughing

    You can guarantee that whatever they try to push...the exact opposite is in fact the actual truth.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:09 pm

    Current situation in Aleppo.

    https://twitter.com/EnglishRussia1/status/808667376644395008
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:38 pm

    1) SAA managed to evacuate most of Palmira's population. The terrorist just captured an empty settlement and aircraft can bomb them w/o worrying about civillian casualties (but may be with worrying about historical sites).

    2) Aleppo offensive is virtually ended and soon a huge number of SAA troops will be free to be relocated elsewhere.

    Conclusion: wanna see some IS barbercued in Palmira ? I predict a huge firestorm there.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:50 pm

    Guys let's not kid ourselves here. Palmyra was a huge blow and whas slow in the making. They relentelessly went on and on towards Palmyra and not farther than September the Russians were forced to hit Shaer to let the SAA/NDF with some breathing room.

    Now less than 3 months that sector just doesn't exist. The small Russian contingent asked to leave on 7th December, they were denied once, then allowed to haul ass. This is something Turkey is feeling first hand, don't commit to small a contingent or don't release the pressure. This was a horrible setback from an operational perspective and I am ready to believe the Russians will restart a pushback from T4. Just not like last time.
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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:58 pm

    T4 surroundings


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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:14 pm

    Islamic State just captured the S-125 surface-to-air missile (SAM) site positioned north of T4 airbase
    Although this battery was likely operational at the time of capture, the Islamic State will probably find no use for it.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:15 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys let's not kid ourselves here. Palmyra was a huge blow and whas slow in the making. They relentelessly went on and on towards Palmyra and not farther than September the Russians were forced to hit Shaer to let the SAA/NDF with some breathing room.

    Now less than 3 months that sector just doesn't exist. The small Russian contingent asked to leave on 7th December, they were denied once, then allowed to haul ass. This is something Turkey is feeling first hand, don't commit to small a contingent or don't release the pressure. This was a horrible setback from an operational perspective and I am ready to believe the Russians will restart a pushback from T4. Just not like last time.

    who asked the Russian contingent to leave on Dec 7? As well, this fault is on NDF and SAA for not holding their positions.

    Anyway, reinforcements are headed to Palmyra. But will probably be smaller than needed since Aleppo will get attacked again with terrorists coming from Idlib. Which is right now being pounded by Air force.

    calm wrote:
    Islamic State just captured the S-125 surface-to-air missile (SAM) site positioned north of T4 airbase
    Although this battery was likely operational at the time of capture, the Islamic State will probably find no use for it.
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    I imagine there are both Syrian and Russian generals just pulling at their hair right now.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:23 pm

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:26 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys let's not kid ourselves here. Palmyra was a huge blow and whas slow in the making. They relentelessly went on and on towards Palmyra and not farther than September the Russians were forced to hit Shaer to let the SAA/NDF with some breathing room.

    Now less than 3 months that sector just doesn't exist. The small Russian contingent asked to leave on 7th December, they were denied once, then allowed to haul ass. This is something Turkey is feeling first hand, don't commit to small a contingent or don't release the pressure. This was a horrible setback from an operational perspective and I am ready to believe the Russians will restart a pushback from T4. Just not like last time.

    who asked the Russian contingent to leave on Dec 7? As well, this fault is on NDF and SAA for not holding their positions.

    Anyway, reinforcements are headed to Palmyra. But will probably be smaller than needed since Aleppo will get attacked again with terrorists coming from Idlib. Which is right now being pounded by Air force.

    calm wrote:
    Islamic State just captured the S-125 surface-to-air missile (SAM) site positioned north of T4 airbase
    Although this battery was likely operational at the time of capture, the Islamic State will probably find no use for it.
    Syrian War: News #11 - Page 4 CzkLyaXXEAApoPl

    I imagine there are both Syrian and Russian generals just pulling at their hair right now.

    The Russian group asked to leave a week ago because the situation was becoming too tense. They were asked to stand by until things got dicey.
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:41 pm

    calm down people, SAA & co. got this

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:44 pm

    Pretty much this.

    But we don't care. T4 has always been the real deal.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:48 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys let's not kid ourselves here. Palmyra was a huge blow and whas slow in the making. They relentelessly went on and on towards Palmyra and not farther than September the Russians were forced to hit Shaer to let the SAA/NDF with some breathing room.

    Now less than 3 months that sector just doesn't exist. The small Russian contingent asked to leave on 7th December, they were denied once, then allowed to haul ass. This is something Turkey is feeling first hand, don't commit to small a contingent or don't release the pressure. This was a horrible setback from an operational perspective and I am ready to believe the Russians will restart a pushback from T4. Just not like last time.

    who asked the Russian contingent to leave on Dec 7? As well, this fault is on NDF and SAA for not holding their positions.

    Anyway, reinforcements are headed to Palmyra. But will probably be smaller than needed since Aleppo will get attacked again with terrorists coming from Idlib. Which is right now being pounded by Air force.

    calm wrote:
    Islamic State just captured the S-125 surface-to-air missile (SAM) site positioned north of T4 airbase
    Although this battery was likely operational at the time of capture, the Islamic State will probably find no use for it.
    Syrian War: News #11 - Page 4 CzkLyaXXEAApoPl

    I imagine there are both Syrian and Russian generals just pulling at their hair right now.

    The Russian group asked to leave a week ago because the situation was becoming too tense. They were asked to stand by until things got dicey.

    by who though? Syria command or Russian?
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:54 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:by who though? Syria command or Russian?

    I bet Russian intel knew what was coming (read unhappy revolution stakeholders) and decided their men's lives were more important than some hills made of sand. War makes decision-makers cynical, win Aleppo and contain your losses/exposure elsewhere. The Palmyra wedge into IS turf was way too exposed in the first place. T4 can also fall tomorrow, but I doubt it matters anymore. Su-24s and choppers have time to GTFO.

    Russia still won the war.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Guys let's not kid ourselves here. Palmyra was a huge blow and whas slow in the making. They relentelessly went on and on towards Palmyra and not farther than September the Russians were forced to hit Shaer to let the SAA/NDF with some breathing room.

    Now less than 3 months that sector just doesn't exist. The small Russian contingent asked to leave on 7th December, they were denied once, then allowed to haul ass. This is something Turkey is feeling first hand, don't commit to small a contingent or don't release the pressure. This was a horrible setback from an operational perspective and I am ready to believe the Russians will restart a pushback from T4. Just not like last time.

    who asked the Russian contingent to leave on Dec 7? As well, this fault is on NDF and SAA for not holding their positions.

    Anyway, reinforcements are headed to Palmyra. But will probably be smaller than needed since Aleppo will get attacked again with terrorists coming from Idlib. Which is right now being pounded by Air force.

    calm wrote:
    Islamic State just captured the S-125 surface-to-air missile (SAM) site positioned north of T4 airbase
    Although this battery was likely operational at the time of capture, the Islamic State will probably find no use for it.
    Syrian War: News #11 - Page 4 CzkLyaXXEAApoPl

    I imagine there are both Syrian and Russian generals just pulling at their hair right now.

    The Russian group asked to leave a week ago because the situation was becoming too tense. They were asked to stand by until things got dicey.

    by who though? Syria command or Russian?

    Russian command asked their men to stay put and SITREP, on 9th they were given green light. T4 has been marked for defense. It will not fall down so easily. However, they have managed to use over 12 ATGM's so far, number unheard of ISIS for such a small front. Clearly they have been amassing material for a push.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:59 pm

    I read sukhois and hinds were seen taking off from T4
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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:13 pm

    in the meantime...

    SDF liberate another 10 villages from IS in West Raqqa countryside.
    217km2 liberated since start of offensive.

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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:38 pm

    Rus Hind E near Tiyas

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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:20 pm

    One thing about today's IS advance, it puts #Syria's remaining gas fields at risk now. Not much between the crossroads and the last fields.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:21 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Ok bitchez hold on your pants now, IS has hit 2 Leo2's with Konkurs/Kornet, with at least one total penetration.

    https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/808632770528419840

    You can see first Leo hit on basket and second hit on basket as well with start of secondary on the second Leo2.

    Courtesy of Aldin (who has gone awol on us).

    https://twitter.com/Ald_Aba/status/808634359595077632

    Second tweet shows secondary.

    Well there's goes Uberwaffe Leopard.

    Any tank can be destroyed by a kornet.. if hit on the sides or rear or top ,
    there is no question about this. But be careful about claims of Turkey and ISIS fighting.
    That is not true. Turkey is NOT fighting ISIS. Oil cross every week across RAQA towards Turkey and Erdogan do not stop their illegal business with ISIS. So you can't be fighting ISIS and having business with them at same time. it didn't happen. So the video is either not ISIS but Kurds , or it could be a fabrication to make it look Turkey is fighting ISIS,the explosion actually looks fake done in photoshop.. but still not clear whether is real or not.. LAvrov just yesterday was just denouncing NATO how they allowed 4,000 ISIS fighters to travel 100 miles ,on pickups from RAqqa to palmyra without lifting a finger. and endless supplies comes from Turkey to IDLIB . So is not true that Erdogan fights ISIS..

    Meanwhile for our Turkey Friends at the forums.. 
    who believe Erdogan is a Saint..  No

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    In wars the truth is the first victim , and deception the biggest strategy. There are reports from 
    french journalist saying that this NATO "Liberations" people so much talk about is nothing
    but a transfer of lands with a shake of hands and wink.. Turkey is not fighting ISIS  . period.
    ISIS cannot survive in Syria without supply lines ,without food ,without logistics. Who provide
    ISIS with food in Syria? with Satellite communications? NATO of course. and there is plenty of reports of ISIS being threated at TUrkey hospitals when wounded and then sent back to fight.
    There are pictures of the Son of Erdogan having meetings with Leaders of ISIS.. on the net. 
    So don't be naive in the believe ERdogan fights ISIS. They don't . If Erdogan block all the supplies that Saudis sends to ISIS , they will not last a single month in Syria.


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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:27 pm

    Tyas T4 AB seen from #ISIS positions, #Homs #Syria

    video http://video.jkikki.de/v/tsq13122016.mp4
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:08 pm

    Erdogan son with ISIS leaders.. Any more doubts about Erdogan connections 
    to ISIS" ?

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    Perhaps anyone will be so dumb to think ERdogan is not aware of what his Son is doing?
    There is also photos of nothing less than ERdogan having meetings with Alqaeda banker that 
    is a saudi citizen.. ERdogan is a pig ,corrupt ,criminal ,the entire family is. 
    FSA,ISIS,Alqaeda, Turko militia ,Same Shit. all terrorist. all islamic radical extremist fighting
    Assad for allowing in Syria full freedom of religion for everyone and womens being treated as equals. Something that most radical muslins reject and consider a major sin to their Islam.

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    People in this forums are really duped with this war of NATO "Against terrorism".
    Americans ,neither Turkey is fighting any terrorist. ZERO. This is the reason why
    Putin complains that Obama is not bombing Alqaeda. he can't do that. Since they are 
    allies. And ISIS travels 100miles from RAqqa to Palmyra and NATO did not move a finger.
    Americans coalition bombings are a show.. just empty places . and the very few times US bombed ISIS was when they targeted kurds.  This is why ISIS do not fight much Kurds and only attack Syrian army and IRAQ army.  At times ISIS have issues with Alnusra Alqaeda and fight each other ,they are competition for to see who defeat Assad faster. Qatar finance Almusra Alqaeda and Saudi Arabia finance ISIS. FSA either move to any side offers them more money.
    No moderates in Syria only terrorist. And US and Turkey have no intentions to defeat either ISIS or Alqaeda. they cooperate in reality and not fighting.

    The Russian federation general staff described NATO war on Terrorism very well. just recently
    the military on a sputnik interview told.. The war of NATO against terrorism what that means
    is..


    To pretend and make it look they are doing something ,while at the same providing political cover ,and endless support military and political to the same groups they claim to be fighting and to block Russia from defeating them.




    This IS.. what "fighting terrorism" really means for US,UK,france and Turkey..with their dictators allies in middle east.

    This is the war on terrorism by NATO is a hoax. a war of deception. They use their airforce to provide real time logistics to terrorist of Syria and IRAQ army positions. They also use their airforce to supply with new weapons ISIS and any other terrorist group. Turkey is only fighting Kurds and blocking Syrian army from freely advancing to close its border with turkey and block ISIS/Alqaeda and any other terrorist from receiving supplies across Turkey border.


    This war in Syria will end in just 30 days.. if Erdogan ends its alliance with terrorist. and close
    its border to any supplies. and provide Russia with locations of Terrorist most important assets ,and storage of weapons ,but is not happening.


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    Post  calm Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:34 pm

    Shocked

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:56 pm

    Yeah, no. Didn't happen as Hezbollah isn't in the area.a

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