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    Status of Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC)

    PhSt
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    Post  PhSt 21/12/20, 08:15 pm

    "Experts" say their own shit cause either they are paid to or just want attention. They aren't experts nor smart. Ignoring them and letting them get real jobs like McDonald's is better option.

    The problem is, for every BS lie/propaganda these "Experts" make, at least 5 out of 10 people would believe their BS, this alone is an accomplishment for these cretins since the main goal here is to again, to make an impression in the general public that Russian products are trash. Not everyone bothers to dig deep to try to find facts to back everything that's published out there.

    My proposal is simple, these NATzO propagandists need a little intimidation on their way. Maybe getting run over by a car or truck will give them a reminder that their BULLSH*T requires some accountability.

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    Post  kvs 21/12/20, 08:42 pm

    The problem is that these "experts" are always used by the MSM no matter how wrong and incompetent they are.  Like Daniel "Jerking" Yergin.  

    Russia needs to have laws governing "experts" similar to the laws that exist on giving medical advice in the USA.   So clowns cannot
    go around representing this and that with false information.   It should be a crime.   I am sure that there will be screeching about
    freedom of thought and freedom of expression.   But clearly these freedoms have nothing to do with smear and libel.   These
    "experts" will remain "free" to spread their shit on social media.   They should not have the automatic right to spread their shit
    through the MSM.   That should apply to the editors of the MSM as well.   Their opinions are not facts.

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    Post  franco 21/12/20, 08:57 pm

    The media would screw up a trip across the street No plus the people who really know wouldn't tell them $h!t. Wink

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    Post  miketheterrible 21/12/20, 08:59 pm

    OK, so I see you want to at least murder a few of them.  Dont get me wrong, I dont mind if these people are dead.

    But lets be honest, that will just work against Russia even more.  Better to answer with them using official data and the end.  That shit is readily available.  If dumb people want to believe it, let them believe it.  What difference does it make?  They are just retarded and potato people will always be a potato.  No matter what you say to them.  Smoothbrains.

    kvs wrote:The problem is that these "experts" are always used by the MSM no matter how wrong and incompetent they are.  Like Daniel "Jerking" Yergin.  

    Russia needs to have laws governing "experts" similar to the laws that exist on giving medical advice in the USA.   So clowns cannot
    go around representing this and that with false information.   It should be a crime.   I am sure that there will be screeching about
    freedom of thought and freedom of expression.   But clearly these freedoms have nothing to do with smear and libel.   These
    "experts" will remain "free" to spread their shit on social media.   They should not have the automatic right to spread their shit
    through the MSM.   That should apply to the editors of the MSM as well.   Their opinions are not facts.

    They just need to adjust laws regarding libel. Maybe let the companies who make the equipment sue these "experts". As soon as they are sued, guess what happens? They will shut up cause their wallet will get hurt. That is their weakness.

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    Post  GarryB 22/12/20, 10:07 am

    The problem is, for every BS lie/propaganda these "Experts" make, at least 5 out of 10 people would believe their BS, this alone is an accomplishment for these cretins since the main goal here is to again, to make an impression in the general public that Russian products are trash.

    It is OK... probably only 20% of any population could be considered fair and reasonable... the rest are either too dumb, or have reasons for not wanting to know the truth... it might be that they hate Russians and blame them for this or that or whatever.... it might just be they don't care either way and it is just easier to go with a popular lie than find out the actual truth for themselves... for many people the positive view of the west is their safety bubble and it would turn their world upside down to know what is really going on...

    We can provide better information, but you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink...

    My proposal is simple, these NATzO propagandists need a little intimidation on their way. Maybe getting run over by a car or truck will give them a reminder that their BULLSH*T requires some accountability.

    Honestly if the west really understood Russia and was actually being nice to Russia... that is when I would fear for Russias future... the west is a group of teenagers... and for a long time Russia thinks they were cool... but they are involved in drugs and theft and murder and all sorts of terrible things.... essentially they are a street gang... and Russia isn't money rich but has a huge farm property with a lake and lots of things for the gang to have fun using and using up... the sooner Russia realised they are better off finding other friends the better... quit trying to impress the psychopath losers.

    That is not to say if the west ever goes to rehab and drops the alcohol and drugs, which means they can get real jobs and earn their own money instead of stealing from others there could be some future down the track a bit, but right now the west is bad for Russia so the more sanctions and isolation the better.



    The problem with the western media is that there is no one really challenging them to be right... that is what RT is achieving to a degree, but most people watch their news channel... they don't look at alternative stations, so despite being told they get every angle of every story from the BBC and CNN and Fox, they never bother to check... The irony is that if their diversity is watching CNN AND Fox News then the republican and democrat discrepencies will show, but they wont see the unified bits like anti Russia bullshit... or why are we going to war with this country now?

    Both sides in the US love war and love to blame Russia for anything and everything...
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    Post  kvs 22/12/20, 10:12 am

    The modern mass information echo-chamber. This has already given us the social media groupthink drones known as SJWs.
    Millions of idiots riled up into a massive lynch mob chasing all heretics. Each one of them not using what little brain capacity
    they have like swarms of insects, birds or fish.

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    Post  Scorpius 27/01/21, 11:58 pm

    Interesting news: Since January 20, 2021, the Tula Arms Factory has regained its historical name, namely: the Imperial Tula Arms Factory.
    However, given the well-established tradition of naming enterprises, which includes the mention of important government awards, the full name of the company should be pronounced as follows:
    Imperial, Order of Lenin, Order of the Patriotic War, Order of the Red Banner of Labor Tula Arms Factory

    Just for information, if anyone else doesn't know about this enterprise.
    The oldest of the Russian defense factories. It was founded in 1712 by Peter the Great.
    And now I will just list what weapons were produced at this plant since the end of the 19th century:

    - 3-line rifle M1891 (Mosin–Nagant);
    - Maxim gun;
    - SVT-40;
    - ShVAK;
    - Nagant M1895 Revolver;
    - TT-30 (Tokarev);
    - AKS-74U;
    - 9M113M Konkurs-M;
    - GP-25 Kostyor;
    - A-91;
    - AS Val;
    - VSS;
    - TP-82
    - and many, many other weapons.
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    Post  George1 27/04/21, 05:07 pm

    TSNIITOCHMASH transferred to the management of the Kalashnikov group

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4299054.html
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    Post  GarryB 28/04/21, 08:08 am

    The pivotal comment there is:

    "consolidates assets in order to accelerate the development and production of small arms and combat equipment of new generations."

    TSNIITOCHMASH makes and designs all sorts of exotic stuff... even a shotgun that uses a 5 shot cylinder revolver... I was thinking of getting one in 410 calibre....

    They also make all sorts of silenced and specialised weapons... and experiment with new types of ammo etc... on reading the article is sounds like they were having financial problems.

    Kalashnikov make the new Lebedev pistol, while TSNIITOCHMASH makes the new Boa... and each company has said it will replace the Makarov... of course they both could be right because most services in Russia still use the Makarov so adopting one or the other pistol will replace the Makarov first.

    But then the Udav does seem to be an SR-1 type replacement with a Poloz reduced size version, both in 9 x 21mm for soldiers and police that need the penetration and power of the round, while the Lebedev is hot loaded 9 x 19mm in a standard and reduced sized package to replace the PYa and Makarov respectively.
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    Post  franco 07/07/21, 01:56 am

    Borisov reporting to Putin on the diversification of the Military Industry Complex to producing civilian products

    Yury Borisov: Vladimir Vladimirovich, you are absolutely right. We have passed the peak of the supply of weapons and military equipment under the state defense order, and the Russian defense industry has moved to a rhythmic supply schedule.

    Competition in the external arms market is quite tough, so the defense industry enterprises, apart from the development of the civilian market, have no other way to financially stabilize. Therefore, in accordance with your instructions - to reach the level of civilian production in 2025, 30 percent, and by 2030 - 50 percent - we are systematically moving forward, and I am ready to report to you on the results.

    According to the results of 2020, the level of civilian products at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex amounted to 25.6 percent against 24.1 percent in 2019, so the dynamics is obvious here. This is facilitated by the systemic measures taken by the Government in terms of promoting domestic products to the civilian market.

    What are these measures? These are primarily price preferences, a ban on purchases of foreign products or restrictions on purchases of foreign products, and we pin special hopes on the amendments approved by you and adopted last year to Laws No. 223-FZ and No. 44-FZ, which regulate the process. purchases.

    The minimum share of purchases of domestic products is established there. We have established them on the basis of established practice, and, by the way, a number of goods that are vital, in particular medicines, are excluded from this share.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4345781.html

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    Post  George1 31/07/21, 04:50 am

    As reported on July 27, 2021 by the Interfax news agency, the creator of the Buran space shuttle NPO Molniya was transferred to the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation (KTRV) from the Kalashnikov concern. This was reported by the press service of the Kalashnikov concern.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4360106.html

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    Post  franco 20/10/21, 05:20 pm

    Borisov said that the quality of products for the RF Armed Forces has improved

    MOSCOW, October 20. / TASS /. The quality of the products supplied to the Russian military has improved significantly over the past three years. This was reported to journalists in the office of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov following his speech at the government hour in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation.

    "Separately, Borisov noted an increase in the quality of products supplied to the military - over the past three years, the number of complaints from the troops has decreased significantly," the message says.

    Borisov recalled that in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, it was possible to ensure the uninterrupted operation of the defense industry organizations under the state defense order and prevent the disruption of its execution.

    "In close cooperation with Rospotrebnadzor, the Ministry of Health of Russia and local authorities, the necessary measures of sanitary and epidemiological protection of people working in the defense industry and performing the tasks of the state defense order were developed and ensured. Borisov also mentioned the amendments to the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of procurement, which provide for the possibility of changes the terms of the state contract (in terms of execution time and prices) in connection with the spread of the new coronavirus infection, "the message says.

    He told the senators that, by agreement of the parties, an increase in the amount of the advance to 80% was applied and a 100% advance was made for the purchases of the electronic component base, and installments were provided for the payment of tax payments.

    The Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation noted that since April 2020, the activities of defense industry organizations have been monitored in the context of the spread of coronavirus infection and their fulfillment of the tasks of the state defense order. "For almost a year and a half, the actual output of employees of defense industry organizations to work has been from 80 to 90%, and their provision with personal protective equipment is 97%," the office of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation said.

    https://tass-ru.translate.goog/armiya-i-opk/12712387?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

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