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    Post  Austin 02/08/12, 05:32 am

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    Military Parade,  № 3, 2012, C. 22-23
    Mikhail Suchilin, Mikhail Gorbachev

    UNIQUE «ANTEY-2500»

    Author: Mikhail Suchilin, Mikhail Gorbachev
    Mikhail Suchilin - head of the OJSC Scientific Research Electromechanical Institute (OJSC AD Central Design Bureau Almaz-Antey)
    Mikhail Gorbachev - chief designer, Doctor of Engineering

    General designer V. Efremov devel-oped the S-300V SAM system in the '70s - '80s to protect the forces from ballistic and aerodynamic threats. The state tests, including theater ballistic missile reentry vehicle interception proved effectiveness and reliability of the system. Various aerodynamic, aeroballistic and ballistic missiles were shot down in the course of the tests.
    After the system had been upgraded it could intercept ballistic missiles with a range of 2,500km. The fact led to the export designation Antey-2500.

    The system is manufactured by Almaz-Antey companies where the JSC Scientific Research Electromechanical Institute (OJSC AD Central Design Bureau Almaz-Antey) is the lead designer.
    The Antey-2500 AD system is mounted on SP (self-propelled) tracked vehicles, equipped with power units, life support and communication equipment.

    A telecode radio communication was introduced to exchange wireless data in combat mode.
    Every vehicle is equipped with navigation and survey control systems. It contains all assets within the integrated reference system. Thanks to the automated deployment capability the system's time into action (time to prepare for travelling) is under 6 minutes.
    Among advantages of tracked vehicles is not only cross-country mobility but tight turning radius, which is a vital feature to maneuver on mountain roads, in woods and urban areas.

    The Antey-2500 battalion includes detection and acquisition asset and SAM batteries (up to 4 per system).The detection and acquisition asset provides autonomous target acquisition and fire control. It consists of a command post (it can coordinate its action with the higher command post if needed) and allround looking and sector-scanning radars.

    The SAM battery includes a guidance radar with multitarget engagement capability, launchers and launcher loaders. The system fires 2 types of two-stage missiles with a speed of 2,600 and 1,700 m/s. The missiles are equipped with different boosters and were developed by the OJSC Novator Experimental Design Bureau. Sustainers have a high level of commonality.

    Besides, the system includes fitters, including maintenance and SPTA (spare parts, tools and accessories) vehicles. All of them are distributed among battalions and batteries to let crews deal with failures on their own. A simulator has been developed to train crews.

    A number of new design solutions are aimed at improving the Antey-2500 operational characteristics, particularly AD capabilities.

    Thus, the sector-scanning radar guarantees tracking of ballistic and aeroballistic targets at a high pace (data updating rate is once per second) to deny confusion in mass raids.
    The guidance radar with multitarget engagement capability allows the weapon to obtain a maximum elevation of +100° to engage ballistic threats. It substantially widens defended area even beyond the radar observation station.

    The launcher transmits the correction signals and illuminates the target to assist the missile semi-active homing. It allows the system to engage simultaneously number of targets equal to that of launchers, connected to the guidance radar (up to 6 launchers). Each launcher will fire missile at the target every 1.5 seconds. The Antey-2500 SAM system is capable to simultaneously engage 24 targets, launching up to two missiles at each target. Two launchers can fire 4 missiles at the same target.

    The high-speed missile makes requirements for the ground assets less exacting due to reduction of the time from launch to impact. It is equipped with adjustable launch delay of the sustainer to increase speed in the terminal phase. The feature is especially vital to engage targets at long range (200km and over). The vertical launch capability allows for an immediate 360° coverage around the launcher without the need for time-consuming mechanical aiming required by more traditional launch methods.

    The fact the seeker guides the missile to the acquisition range allows to lift burden from the ground assets to track it and makes the acquisition radar more effective.
    The semi-active seeker tracks targets within an angle of up to 75° to intercept fast targets in difficult future positions.

    The HE fragmentation aimed warhead, fitted with light and heavy fragments, as well as efficient distribution of fuse elements and fragmentation section allows to inflict sufficient damage to nose compartments and reentry vehicles of ballistic missiles, manned aerodynamic targets, and drones.

    An additional forward receiver is coupled with the seeker to make sure the fuse detonates at low line-of-sight (LOS) angles (which is the case with fast targets) on timely manner. The fuse settings make it detonate to inflict maximum damage to the reentry vehicle of the missile rather than its frame.

    The elements of the system operate in the following manner:

    - the command post distributes data, acquired by all-round looking radar and sector-scanning radar between 4 guidance radars with multitarget engagement capability;

    - each guidance radar tracks the targets in automatic mode, distributes them between launchers organic to it and transmits necessary data to launch and guide missiles;

    - the launcher gets ready a missile for the launch, inputs target and flight data into the onboard computer, launches it, transmits correction signals to the airborne missile (to update the target coordinates when it maneuvers) and illuminates the target to assist the semi-active seeker and radio proximity fuse;

    - signals, generated by the onboard inertial system and correction signals guide the missile to the seeker acquisition range. The missile rotates about the longitudinal axis to propel high density fragments towards the target and the fuse detonates it.

    The Antey-2500 system provides high level automation of operations of all components. The only action required by the crew is to press the fire button when dealing with fast ballistic threats. The system acquires and tracks targets in the automatic mode.

    The Antey-2500 battalion is deployed in the manner to provide distance between the batteries and the detection and acquisition asset up to 20km. It insures that defended areas of the batteries do not overlap to maximize the battalion defended area, which is equal to the total area, covered by the batteries.

    The system has substantial growth potential. Its SAMs operate in automatic mode to let the guidance radar of the launcher acquire very low-altitude targets. It is also true when angles of sight of aerodynamic and ballistic targets are large.

    The SAM is superior to any Russian and foreign counterpart in capacity. An option of the Antey-2500 with a missile capable to destroy large aerodynamic targets at a range of up to 350km can be manufactured to customer requirements.

    Digital signal processing and modern hardware, fitted into ground assets allow to upgrade the system and integrate additional data acquisition and control equipment, as well as weapons into it according to customer requirements.


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    Post  medo 24/12/12, 09:17 pm

    Any news when army will receive first new build S-300V4?

    It's nice to read Novorossiysk got new S-400. Maybe they will soon get a battery of Pantsirs too.
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    Post  Sujoy 24/12/12, 09:29 pm

    medo wrote:Any news when army will receive first new build S-300V4?

    AFAIK they were supposed to receive the first lot in 2011 . A total of 30 units will be delivered through 2020 .
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    Post  Viktor 24/12/12, 10:03 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    medo wrote:Any news when army will receive first new build S-300V4?

    AFAIK they were supposed to receive the first lot in 2011 . A total of 30 units will be delivered through 2020 .

    What do you mean when you say 30 units?, referring to S-300V4, right?
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    Post  Sujoy 24/12/12, 10:06 pm

    Viktor wrote:What do you mean when you say 30 units?, referring to S-300V4, right?

    Right . As per the agreement signed 30 S 300V4 systems will be delivered by 2020 .

    These S 300V4 will work in concert with the S 400 .
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    Post  Viktor 24/12/12, 10:20 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Right . As per the agreement signed 30 S 300V4 systems will be delivered by 2020 .

    As I read 9 S-300V4 brigades where to be delivered. This sounds a bit to much but thats just my opinion. But I have never read

    30 S-300V4, any link?

    When you say 30 S 300V4 on what do you refer? Brigades, regiments, battalions?




    Sujoy wrote:These S 300V4 will work in concert with the S 400 .

    S-300V4 is Army air defense and S-400 is Russia PVO. They are not meant for the same thing nor they are meant to work together.

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    Post  Sujoy 24/12/12, 11:05 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    As I read 9 S-300V4 brigades where to be delivered. This sounds a bit to much but thats just my opinion. But I have never read

    30 S-300V4, any link?

    Here you go

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/3/12/841/

    The S-300V4 systems called “Vityaz” are intended for ground forces. They should replace the ageing S-300P and S-300PS systems. It has been reported earlier that 30 Vityaz systems will be delivered to the Russian armed forces by 2020 and they will be operated together with S-400, S-500 and Morphey air defense systems since 2015



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    Post  Viktor 24/12/12, 11:16 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    Viktor wrote:
    As I read 9 S-300V4 brigades where to be delivered. This sounds a bit to much but thats just my opinion. But I have never read

    30 S-300V4, any link?

    Here you go

    http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/3/12/841/

    The S-300V4 systems called “Vityaz” are intended for ground forces. They should replace the ageing S-300P and S-300PS systems. It has been reported earlier that 30 Vityaz systems will be delivered to the Russian armed forces by 2020 and they will be operated together with S-400, S-500 and Morphey air defense systems since 2015




    Well that article is clear example of the horrible and shocking reporting by Russian journalists. Vityaz is NOT S-300V4.

    S-300V4 is latest modernization of S-300V system.
    Vityaz is the whole new system that will replace S-300P and some oldest systems not the PM ones recently reported to be replaced by new

    S-400 battalions by some newspapers Very Happy
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    Post  dino00 19/06/13, 10:05 pm

    The antey 2500 can destroy missiles with 2500 km,so
    In what missiles range can the s-300v4 destroy a missile?
    And who have that missiles.
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    Post  Austin 19/06/13, 11:41 pm

    ^^^ on S-300V4



    After modernization, the S-300B provided: increase in the range of aerodynamic destruction of aerial targets up to 400 km, increasing the area covered up to strokes operational-tactical and tactical missiles - in 3-4 times, and defeat short-range missiles and medium range ballistic missiles - with range of start-up to 3,500 km.



    http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?93561-Russian-Space-amp-Missile-News-Discussion-Part-4&p=1838119#post1838119
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    Post  dino00 20/06/13, 02:01 am

    So 3500 km thanks.
    And who have that missiles to threat Russia
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    Post  medo 20/06/13, 02:13 am

    Iran, North korea, China,...
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    Post  dino00 20/06/13, 02:52 am

    Thanks for the answer
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    Post  Austin 19/07/13, 12:44 am

    Viktor its officially confirmed that the new S-300V4 will have a range of 400 km

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t410p225-s-400-500-news#14600

    After modernization, the S-300B provided: increase in the range of aerodynamic destruction of aerial targets up to 400 km, increasing the area covered up to strokes operational-tactical and tactical missiles - in 3-4 times, and defeat short-range missiles and medium range ballistic missiles - with range of start-up to 3,500 km.

    Thanks for posting those information , Its for poster like You , SOC , GarryB , sepheronx , TR1 Mindstorm and few other friends here that makes me visit this board and learn so much and its fun Very Happy 
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    Post  Viktor 19/07/13, 12:57 am

    Austin wrote:Viktor its officially confirmed that the new S-300V4 will have a range of 400 km

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t410p225-s-400-500-news#14600

    After modernization, the S-300B provided: increase in the range of aerodynamic destruction of aerial targets up to 400 km, increasing the area covered up to strokes operational-tactical and tactical missiles - in 3-4 times, and defeat short-range missiles and medium range ballistic missiles - with range of start-up to 3,500 km.

    WoW. I remember reading 350km range but 400 km is even better Very Happy 

    That means that now we have two different 400km range missiles. 9M92M  of S-300V4 missile system and 40N6 of S-400 missile system.

    I bet Russian Army PVO and Territorial PVO will organize some sort of competition within a year or

    two at Ashuluk to see who is better. Army PVO with 400km range of S-300V4 missiles system and Territorial PVO with 400km range of S-400 missile system sniper 

    After seeing competition between Army PVO and Territorial PVO at Ashuluk with theirs 400 range missiles, western air planers will start to commit suicide one by one. russia 







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    Thanks for posting those information , Its for poster like You , SOC , GarryB , sepheronx , TR1 Mindstorm and few other friends here that makes me visit this board and learn so much and its fun Very Happy 

    I totally agree.
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    Post  Austin 19/07/13, 01:07 am

    40N6 is to Airforce what 9M92M is for Army although both do the same task but 40N6 will have much higher altitude of interception and better characteristics over all since its designed anew.
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    Post  sepheronx 19/07/13, 01:15 am

    Austin wrote:Viktor its officially confirmed that the new S-300V4 will have a range of 400 km

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t410p225-s-400-500-news#14600

    After modernization, the S-300B provided: increase in the range of aerodynamic destruction of aerial targets up to 400 km, increasing the area covered up to strokes operational-tactical and tactical missiles - in 3-4 times, and defeat short-range missiles and medium range ballistic missiles - with range of start-up to 3,500 km.

    Thanks for posting those information , Its for poster like You , SOC , GarryB , sepheronx , TR1 Mindstorm and few other friends here that makes me visit this board and learn so much and its fun Very Happy 

    Well, that made me blush.

    I admit I have been hard on you and other Indian members and once again, I am sorry for it.  Sometimes I get a little uptight about things like this (I know, I need to get a life).  I find you are one of the most well informed members on this site and MP.net regarding military technology and where to get the info.  (the sorry also goes towards Sujoy as well).

    Keep up the good work.

    As well, is there any date as to when S-300V4 may see service? It would definitely be nice if we get some video of it striking a missile or something Smile
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    Post  Viktor 19/07/13, 01:31 am

    sepheronx wrote:As well, is there any date as to when S-300V4 may see service?  It would definitely be nice if we get some video of it striking a missile or something Smile

    Old S-300V brigades (4 or 5 of S-300V brigades) are being modernized to V4 standard and by 2016 we will have 3 new S-300V4 missile regiments (one brigade) with

    the final plan up to 2020 9 S-300V4 brigades. That is a lot of missiles.
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    Post  sepheronx 19/07/13, 01:34 am

    So this missile, 9M92M, it was tested and found that it was up to 400km? Or is this speculation?
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    Post  Viktor 19/07/13, 03:19 am

    sepheronx wrote:So this missile, 9M92M, it was tested and found that it was up to 400km?  Or is this speculation?

    Still waging crusade against 400km range S-300V4 Very Happy  ...

    There is something interesting in Almaz-Antej report for 2011 - they where mentioning testing of what they referred to as Antej-3500.

    Now in Almaz-Antej report for 2012 there is no word of Antej-3500 but during the same year director of Almaz-Antej was replaced and I know that he former

    director heavily prioritized Antej-2500/S-300V4 over 40N6 and S-400 what was at the end of the story the main reason for  his dismissal from

    directors position.

    Now we know about 40N6 even less than 400km range 9M92M but still know that it is there and that we will see it (if not this than the year after).

    Austin provided credible link with the interview of some guy from Almaz-Antej where he mentions that S-300V4 will have 400km range. That link is active no more

    but happily interview is. I dont know why do you toughly deny such information Austin provided as all web community is talking about it and even some

    defense analyst revealed to us that the price per regiment is about 850-950 million $ depending on some options ?

    As this AD system is for Russian forces only you wont get any advertising. Because of that you will never know if you where right or not - unless in some interview

    like the one Austin posted, some guy who knows, tells.
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    Post  sepheronx 19/07/13, 04:23 am

    Viktor wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:So this missile, 9M92M, it was tested and found that it was up to 400km?  Or is this speculation?

    Still waging crusade against 400km range S-300V4 Very Happy  ...

    There is something interesting in Almaz-Antej report for 2011 - they where mentioning testing of what they referred to as Antej-3500.

    Now in Almaz-Antej report for 2012 there is no word of Antej-3500 but during the same year director of Almaz-Antej was replaced and I know that he former

    director heavily prioritized Antej-2500/S-300V4 over 40N6 and S-400 what was at the end of the story the main reason for  his dismissal from

    directors position.

    Now we know about 40N6 even less than 400km range 9M92M but still know that it is there and that we will see it (if not this than the year after).

    Austin provided credible link with the interview of some guy from Almaz-Antej where he mentions that S-300V4 will have 400km range. That link is active no more

    but happily interview is. I dont know why do you toughly deny such information Austin provided as all web community is talking about it and even some

    defense analyst revealed to us that the price per regiment is about 850-950 million $ depending on some options ?

    As this AD system is for Russian forces only you wont get any advertising. Because of that you will never know if you where right or not - unless in some interview

    like the one Austin posted, some guy who knows, tells.

    I would be far too happy to see a S-300V4 with its updated missile and radar in service. Because I think the S-300V4, by the sounds of it, was gonna be overall better than the S-400 and awaiting its 40N6 missile. But so far, very little has been said and shown, other than some mention of S-300V4 being worked on...
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    Post  Viktor 19/07/13, 08:53 am

    sepheronx wrote:I would be far too happy to see a S-300V4 with its updated missile and radar in service.  Because I think the S-300V4, by the sounds of it, was gonna be overall better than the S-400 and awaiting its 40N6 missile.  But so far, very little has been said and shown, other than some mention of S-300V4 being worked on...

    Indeed, very little is said about the system.
    But do you honestly believe that Antej-2500 from 1999 is exactly the same as Antej-2500 from 2011?

    Now lets use some facts to see where they could lead us and perhaps draw a few conclusions.

    1. We know that shooting range in distance by latter modifications of Antej-2500 are 250 km (instead of initial 200)
    - Conclusion - all three radar sets had to be modify too to support longer range
    - 1.1. Justify suspicion - increased ECM/ECCM resistance also
    - 1.2. Justify suspicion - modernized electronic also

    2. We know that Poljana-D4M1 is not only (and not preferable) option for Antej-2500 as a brigade level command post now and that Baikal-1ME is taking its place
    - Conclusion - much better shooting scores under new command post / specially when talking about mixed brigades
    - Huh, pretty much better everything because of much better command post ....

    3. It is interesting that Russian will get or perhaps already has, 40N6 missile which has 400 km range missile but still range of the export variant of S-400 system is
    250km in range. Doesnt that sound awfully familiar. Antej-2500 which is meant for export also has 250km range missiles but its domestic version intended for
    Russian army (S-300V4) has also reported 400km range in distance. Even if you dont believe in 400km range story I think you might agree with me that Russian
    version will have more range than export and that that range would be in any case more than 300km range and lean towards 350km or even 400km range.

    4. S-300V4 system is confirmed officially many times and Russia intends to have 9 brigades of S-300V4 by 2020.

    Because of all that I think It is not speculative to say that S-300V4 has 400km range.
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    Post  SOC 19/07/13, 09:31 am

    Viktor wrote:1. We know that shooting range in distance by latter modifications of Antej-2500 are 250 km (instead of initial 200)
       - Conclusion - all three radar sets had to be modify too to support longer range

    ...except that there are now apparently two radars, not three, although the marketing info has yet to get updated. GRILL PAN/HIGH SCREEN got combined into GRILL SCREEN, able to perform both target track and ATBM sector search functions. BILL BOARD still provides target acquisition and track handoff, and it's possible that BILL BOARD got modified to take over the ATBM sector search function as well, at least in part.
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    Post  Viktor 19/07/13, 09:58 am

    SOC wrote:...except that there are now apparently two radars, not three, although the marketing info has yet to get updated.  GRILL PAN/HIGH SCREEN got combined into GRILL SCREEN, able to perform both target track and ATBM sector search functions.  BILL BOARD still provides target acquisition and track handoff, and it's possible that BILL BOARD got modified to take over the ATBM sector search function as well, at least in part.

    Perhaps it could be who can tell until they disclose but still I think that it is highly unlikely. Russians improved 9S32 radar but still mighty Ibmir is still there.

    Look at Almaz-Antej report for 2012 on the page before. Russians are further developing Imbir and that modernized version will serve under S-300V4 system.

    As part of the development of air defense / missile defense

    - State tests SAM 9K331M (with Ed. 9M338K ) ( complete, "Tor-M2" with missiles GosMKB "Vympel" - approx. our blog ) and preliminary tests of the radar-CO   9S19M2-1 from the air defense missile systems S-300V4 .

    Still you might be right because most of customers who intends to buy the system does not need specialized anti-ballistic radar like Imbir

    (although Iran and Syria does Very Happy ) and making one radar that will replace the functions of both 9S32 and 9S19 could be just the right solution for them.

    Price would go down too.

    Similar things could be said about S-400 missile system. It could happen easily that Russian S-400 will not use 9M96 class missiles because they will have

    support of Vityaz at all time but the customers who can not afford both systems will find that option very interesting as well as like adding few Protivnik-GE or Lira

    radar sets per battery. Different requirements for different states.
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    I've been digging around and it appears that there are still three radars for the system; GRILL SCREEN is now treated as an improvement to GRILL PAN using components from HIGH SCREEN for better performance. Making GRILL PAN closer to HIGH SCREEN in this regard may actually improve the ATBM performance of the system from a processing standpoint.

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