S-300V Army SAM System

Stealthflanker wrote:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
You did not answer my question. You are repeating your original assertion!

I have known both of these systems since a long time before you were born, assuming you are 26.

Then i believe you fully aware that S-300V only use two kinds of missiles, the 9M83 and 9M82.

My copy of Rosoboronexport catalogue listed only two kinds of missiles provided for S-300V system. Now If there's any more than that Would you kindly provide your source ?

Or if literature is needed anyway then i have this :

http://pvo.guns.ru/s300v/s300v.htm

" Каждый ЗРК включал в себя:

   многоканальную станцию наведения ракет 9С32;
   пусковые установки двух типов (9А83 - с четырьмя ЗУР 9М83 и 9А82 - с двумя ЗУР 9М82);
   пускозаряжающие установки (ПЗУ) двух типов (9А85 - для работы с ПУ 9А83 и ЗУР 9М83 и 9А84 - для работы с ПУ 9А82 и ЗУР 9М82), а также средства технического обеспечения и обслуживания.

Ракеты 9М82 и 9М83 эксплуатировались, соответственно, в транспортно-пусковых контейнерах (ТПК) 9Я238 и 9Я240."

I don't know much Russian; where does it say that the S-300V system does not include missiles other than 9M82 and 9M83?

Stealthflanker wrote:I think it's quite obvious there that there are only two kinds of missiles for S-300V system.

This is, of course, incorrect and a non sequitur, but we can discuss this later.

What is obvious is that the S-300V system includes many different types of missiles. I may talk about them at some time in the future.

I don't know much Russian; where does it say that the S-300V system does not include missiles other than 9M82 and 9M83?

As far as I know there are only the two base missiles.... though they have had serious upgrades including the S-300VM or Antei-2500, and of course the current S-300V4 missiles.

I really don't have that many decent photos of the S-300V missiles... this is the small one with 8 stabilising fins:



And this is clearly a large missile being launched from a large tube... seemingly with four fins:

GarryB wrote:
I really don't have that many decent photos of the S-300V missiles... this is the small one with 8 stabilising fins:



And this is clearly a large missile being launched from a large tube... seemingly with four fins:

Garry, both of these are of the larger types.

This is one of the small missile types.

This image sequence is interesting. It shows the antenna of the 9P82 rotating around the role axis.

this video is so cool

Modernization of the chassis of the S-300V4 in Lipetsk Factory.

Export version Antey-2500 just score a hit at 310km distance and 14km in altitude  


Record NIEMI

Viktor wrote:Export version Antey-2500 just score a hit at 310km distance and 14km in altitude  


Record NIEMI

This make me curious on the apogee of the missile and its respective lift to drag ratio :3 Should be more than 2 i guess.

Imagine you are flying along in your aircraft at 14km altitude and you get a small pulse on your radar warning system... ah but it is OK... it is over 300km behind you... a couple of minutes later you are hanging below your parachute wondering what happened...

Someone wrote about the delivery of the first S-300V4 unit...is it known which AD BGD will get it first? Naro Fominsk?

The latest export version of An-2500 has range of 350 km

S-300V4 has a range of more than 400 km

And another EPIC news

and so it starts ... first NEW S-300V4 regiment will be given to the Russian Army PVO by the end of this year

so 2 possibly even 3 S-400 regiments + new S-300V4 regiment + God knows how many modernized ones ... and it has only begun (next year Russian PVO will receive even

bigger amounts + S-350 for the first time)

Source: Ministry of Defence before the end of the year will receive a set of Brigadier C-300V4

MOSCOW, December 8. / TASS /. The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation until the end of this year will receive a set of anti-aircraft missile brigade S-300V4. About this Tass quoted a source in the Russian Defense Ministry.

"Over the next two weeks, one brigade (three batteries) S-300V4 will be transferred to the Ministry of Defense" - the spokesman said, without specifying the location of these complexes.
Previously head of the Air Defense Forces Land Forces Alexander Leonov said that in 2014 the Army will receive the latest anti-aircraft missile system, long-range S-300V4. Three-year government contract to supply S-300V4 troops was signed in early 2012.

Air defense missile system S-300 as a defensive weapon is considered one of the most effective means of combating air and ballistic targets. He is able to simultaneously track up to six targets at a range of 120 km and let them 12 rockets. The versatility of the C-300 in the fact that it can affect not only all kinds of aircrafts, missiles and.

Viktor wrote:And another EPIC news

and so it starts ... first NEW S-300V4 regiment will be given to the Russian Army PVO by the end of this year  

so 2 possibly even 3 S-400 regiments + new S-300V4 regiment + God knows how many modernized ones ... and it has only begun (next year Russian PVO will receive even

bigger amounts + S-350 for the first time)

Source: Ministry of Defence before the end of the year will receive a set of Brigadier C-300V4

MOSCOW, December 8. / TASS /. The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation until the end of this year will receive a set of anti-aircraft missile brigade S-300V4. About this Tass quoted a source in the Russian Defense Ministry.

"Over the next two weeks, one brigade (three batteries) S-300V4 will be transferred to the Ministry of Defense" - the spokesman said, without specifying the location of these complexes.
Previously head of the Air Defense Forces Land Forces Alexander Leonov said that in 2014 the Army will receive the latest anti-aircraft missile system, long-range S-300V4. Three-year government contract to supply S-300V4 troops was signed in early 2012.

Air defense missile system S-300 as a defensive weapon is considered one of the most effective means of combating air and ballistic targets. He is able to simultaneously track up to six targets at a range of 120 km and let them 12 rockets. The versatility of the C-300 in the fact that it can affect not only all kinds of aircrafts, missiles and.

is this a new system or modernized old S-300Vs?

And so it begins

Concern PVO "Almaz-Antey" starts supplies to the army air defense missile systems S-300V4

Another confirmation ...

there are inaccuraties regarding numbers delivered ... as S-300V comes only in regimental form cerectly addressed division (where division in S-300P case regards to only battery lvl

components).

Now in case division is a term correctly applied to what happened than we can say that Russian V-PVO received one S-300V4 brigade with minimum auxilaries in order to form one brigade

and this may be true (4 "batteries" are minimum required to form one brigade or two divisions/regiments made of 2 "batteries" making again 4 "batteries")

Also it may be that journalist incorrectly said division meaning of infact batteries in which case we are talking about one regiment (minimum requirements for regiments are 2 batteries)

Because Russian V-PVO uses regiment as a smallest PVO unit we shall never see battery lvl PVO units being delivered or at guards - only regimental and higher.



S-300V4 and "Thor M2U" put in the Army

Exercises of air defence unit(S-300VM) of western military district

Viktor wrote:Hehe ... now this is just great ....

Russian Defense Ministry: AAMS S300V4 confirmed the ability to hit targets up to 400 km

"The system is armed S300V4 two types of missiles: Heavy rocket range destroy air targets up to 400 kilometers, having a hypersonic speed (about 7.5 Mach number), and easy to defeat missiles with a range of 150 kilometers," - said Lieutenant General Alexander Leonov.

The system is able to destroy air targets at ranges of up to 400 kilometers and at an altitude of 37 kilometers, destroy tactical, operational-tactical and medium range ballistic missiles.

now Russia has two systems capable of engaging targets out to 400km range .... and next year S-500 is coming

S-300V4 is army air defense complex, which will replace old S-300V. Having same capabilities as S-400, it will give excellent protection for ground forces on the front very deep behind enemy lines. This is very important even for CAS planes and helicopters as enemy fighters could not fly that easily in the position to engage them.

has the s300v4 kept the guidance method of older variant? each launcher having its own dish for terminal illumination of targets at 400 km away?

If so, that means there was some serious upgrade of radars, both the battery radar to track own missiles and the illuminator dishes to even reach 400 km, especially within x band. It'd actually make it the only system to claim 400 km range without active radar self guidance within the missile, as both s400 and sm-6 use such guidance at similar distances.

Russian army puts into service long-range missile for S-300V4 system — source

First, the S-300B4 systems in the Western military district are to be equipped with these missiles, the source adds



MOSCOW, March 5. /TASS/. Russia’s military have put into service a long-range missile for the S-300V4 air defense system, a source in the country’s Defense Ministry told TASS on Thursday.

"The missile range reaches 400 kilometers [250 miles]," the source said.

The new missile successfully passed the state tests late last year, he said. First, the S-300V4 systems in the Western military district are to be equipped with these missiles, the source added.

The supplies of S-300V4 systems to Russia’s Ground Forces began only in 2014. The servicemen received two division sets of these systems which are considered to be more efficient than their predecessors by up to 2.5 times.

Late last year, the press service of the Almaz Antey air defense systems manufacturer told TASS the new longer range missiles for the S-300V4 systems were being developed, giving no further details.

Russian Military Receives Second Batch of New S-300V4 Air Defense Systems

Russia's Air Defense Forces have received their second batch of a new modification of the S-300 surface-to-air system, with expanded anti-aircraft, anti-cruise and anti-ballistic missile capabilities.

Russia's new Richag-AV radar and sonar jamming system can be mounted on helicopters, ships and other military equipment to jam potential adversaries' weapons systems from distances of several hundred kilometers; it has been hailed by developers as having no analogue anywhere in the world.

Almaz-Antei Air Defense Concern has delivered three batteries of the new S-300V4 system to the Russian military, which expects to deploy the new system in the Western Military District, according to a source in the Ministry of Defense.

The new system, designed between 2012-2014, is a modernized version of the S-300V3, with elements from versions of the S-300V Antei-2500 which were produced for export. It includes new, more advance computational components, which have expanded its range by 100 km (to 400 km), as well as its anti-missile defensive umbrella's effectiveness.

The new system, designed between 2012-2014, is a modernized version of the S-300V3, with elements from versions of the S-300V Antei-2500 which were produced for export. It includes new, more advance computational components, which have expanded its range by 100 km (to 400 km), as well as its anti-missile defensive umbrella's effectiveness. The Air Defense Forces received their first S-300V4 brigade in December 2014; the military had conducted successful testing of the new systems before that.

Military specialists estimate that the new system is 1.5-2.3 times more effective in its anti-missile defense capabilities. In addition to offering cruise and short-range tactical ballistic missile defense, the defensive system is capable of targeting medium-range ballistic missiles launched from a distance of up to 2,500 km away.

The military's contract with Almaz-Antei calls for the provision of nine S-300V4 brigades by 2020.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150305/1019089902.html#ixzz3TVtnoAv6

VladimirSahin wrote:F-35 is not a joke guys... Russia doesn't have any programs near its design... Its one of the most capable VTOL 5th generation flying practice target for Russian anti air defense But seriously, To what targets and at what range is the F-35s jamming able?

+1 for this awesome comment

Is that means 40N6 will be added to Antey-2500 ?

VladimirSahin wrote:F-35 is not a joke guys... Russia doesn't have any programs near its design... Its one of the most capable VTOL 5th generation flying practice target for Russian anti air defense But seriously, To what targets and at what range is the F-35s jamming able?

What has VTOL got to do with anything? It's an air craft carrier centered gimmick. Why does Russia need an overpriced
single engine, short range attack fighter? It already has the Mig-35. Your claim that Russia has nothing near the F-35
sounds like some retarded prattle from F16.net. Western superiority masturbation. Look up the PAK-FA and don't engage
in semantics that it does not fit the F-35 role. Your claim is all about Russian technical capabilities.

I am quite sure that Russian missiles are very well protected from US jamming of any sort short of EMP detonations. So
the F-35 is not going to be immune from Russian missiles attacks. When someone goes on about stealth being about
invisibility, they need to be dismissed out of hand. They know zilch about the physics.

kvs wrote:

VladimirSahin wrote:F-35 is not a joke guys... Russia doesn't have any programs near its design... Its one of the most capable VTOL 5th generation flying practice target for Russian anti air defense But seriously, To what targets and at what range is the F-35s jamming able?

What has VTOL got to do with anything?  It's an air craft carrier centered gimmick.  Why does Russia need an overpriced
single engine, short range attack fighter?  It already has the Mig-35.   Your claim that Russia has nothing near the F-35
sounds like some retarded prattle from F16.net.   Western superiority masturbation.   Look up the PAK-FA and don't engage
in semantics that it does not fit the F-35 role.   Your claim is all about Russian technical capabilities.

I am quite sure that Russian missiles are very well protected from US jamming of any sort short of EMP detonations.    So
the F-35 is not going to be immune from Russian missiles attacks.   When someone goes on about stealth being about
invisibility, they need to be dismissed out of hand.   They know zilch about the physics.

Uh, I think you missed the part about it being a practice target, he wasn't praising it...he was mocking it.