Plagued in Corruption: Effects of the US Coup in Brazil
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Brazil Political Crisis
sepheronx- Posts : 8024
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jhelb- Posts : 1056
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George1 wrote:there will be reversals and opportunities in latin america.
In 70s Peru and Chile under Velasco and Allende aligned with USSR. Now these countries even under leftist goverments are more pro-western.
Lula in Brazil will sure be elected in 2018 and unless right wing government make any outstanding economic results in Argentina, Kirchnerists will win again in 2019
In Equador and Bolivia Left is still solid.
I am afraid only for Venezuela. That right wing when they will win presidency may start a persecution against PSUV politicians including Maduro in a bid to neutralize left for years
Actually George, the situation in Brazil is much worse. Russia Beyond The Headlines came up with a great explanation.
In short, it's the unbridled spread of Evangelical groups in Brazil financed by the US. Russia & China (apart from other BRICS members) are concerned that Brazil might exit BRICS under the influence of the US Evangelical groups who are now governing Brazil.
https://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_than_fiction/2016/07/04/brics-should-prepare-for-braxit-a-brazilian-exit_608637
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- Post n°128
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jhelb wrote:George1 wrote:there will be reversals and opportunities in latin america.
In 70s Peru and Chile under Velasco and Allende aligned with USSR. Now these countries even under leftist goverments are more pro-western.
Lula in Brazil will sure be elected in 2018 and unless right wing government make any outstanding economic results in Argentina, Kirchnerists will win again in 2019
In Equador and Bolivia Left is still solid.
I am afraid only for Venezuela. That right wing when they will win presidency may start a persecution against PSUV politicians including Maduro in a bid to neutralize left for years
Actually George, the situation in Brazil is much worse. Russia Beyond The Headlines came up with a great explanation.
In short, it's the unbridled spread of Evangelical groups in Brazil financed by the US. Russia & China (apart from other BRICS members) are concerned that Brazil might exit BRICS under the influence of the US Evangelical groups who are now governing Brazil.
https://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_than_fiction/2016/07/04/brics-should-prepare-for-braxit-a-brazilian-exit_608637
Evangelicals have been an issue in Brazil for two decades, before BRICS was even an Idea. The weight they bear in both Middle Class and Lower classes makes them no different from Vatican's conservatism of the 70's and 80's. The issue is however that the Brazilian people is breaking down in areas like it hasn't in decades.
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- Post n°129
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jhelb wrote:George1 wrote:there will be reversals and opportunities in latin america.
In 70s Peru and Chile under Velasco and Allende aligned with USSR. Now these countries even under leftist goverments are more pro-western.
Lula in Brazil will sure be elected in 2018 and unless right wing government make any outstanding economic results in Argentina, Kirchnerists will win again in 2019
In Equador and Bolivia Left is still solid.
I am afraid only for Venezuela. That right wing when they will win presidency may start a persecution against PSUV politicians including Maduro in a bid to neutralize left for years
Actually George, the situation in Brazil is much worse. Russia Beyond The Headlines came up with a great explanation.
In short, it's the unbridled spread of Evangelical groups in Brazil financed by the US. Russia & China (apart from other BRICS members) are concerned that Brazil might exit BRICS under the influence of the US Evangelical groups who are now governing Brazil.
https://in.rbth.com/blogs/stranger_than_fiction/2016/07/04/brics-should-prepare-for-braxit-a-brazilian-exit_608637
Most people are retarded. Take the same Bible and pretend you believe in a new religion. Like squeezing water out of a rock
and expecting to get lots of it.
It is sad to see Latin America allow itself to be Uncle Scam's bitch. And these US-centered evangelical outfits all serve a clear
political agenda. I can't stand people who allow themselves to be manipulated this way.
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KoTeMoRe wrote:Evangelicals have been an issue in Brazil for two decades, before BRICS was even an Idea. The weight they bear in both Middle Class and Lower classes makes them no different from Vatican's conservatism of the 70's and 80's. The issue is however that the Brazilian people is breaking down in areas like it hasn't in decades.
In 2 decades from 5% of the population, Evangelicals are now 35% of the population. That's what changed. They are the ones causing economic turmoil in Brazil. Another country where Evangelicals are increasing their population is China. China now has almost 100 million Evangelicals. So that's >10% of the population. Once this figure hits >35% China too will become a slave of the US.
kvs wrote:And these US-centered evangelical outfits all serve a clear
political agenda. I can't stand people who allow themselves to be manipulated this way.
They don't have too many choices. They are enticed, threatened into conversion. Evangelism is to Christianity what Wahabbism is to Islam. Both seek global dominance by converting "infidels".
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- Post n°131
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jhelb wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Evangelicals have been an issue in Brazil for two decades, before BRICS was even an Idea. The weight they bear in both Middle Class and Lower classes makes them no different from Vatican's conservatism of the 70's and 80's. The issue is however that the Brazilian people is breaking down in areas like it hasn't in decades.
In 2 decades from 5% of the population, Evangelicals are now 35% of the population. That's what changed. They are the ones causing economic turmoil in Brazil. Another country where Evangelicals are increasing their population is China. China now has almost 100 million Evangelicals. So that's >10% of the population. Once this figure hits >35% China too will become a slave of the US.kvs wrote:And these US-centered evangelical outfits all serve a clear
political agenda. I can't stand people who allow themselves to be manipulated this way.
They don't have too many choices. They are enticed, threatened into conversion. Evangelism is to Christianity what Wahabbism is to Islam. Both seek global dominance by converting "infidels".
Which is exactly my point, before it was Conservative Catholicism, now it's Evangelicals. It will be some other sect in the future.
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Brazilian Judge Rules That Ex-President Lula Da Silva Obstructed Justice
Former Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva along with a number of top officials are in charge of the Federal Prosecution Service, local media reported on Friday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Brazilian federal judge has accepted obstruction charges filed by the Federal Prosecution Service against country's former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva along with a number of top officials, local media reported on Friday.
According to Agencia Brasil, Lula da Silva is accused of interfering in Operation Car Wash investigation into Brazil’s state oil and gas company Petrobras corruption affair as he tried to stop former Petrobras International Director Nestor Cervero from making a deal with investigators.
Operation Car Wash (Lava Jato) has been ongoing since 2014 in a bid to probe into kick-back schemes in Petrobras then run by now suspended President Dilma Rousseff. The corruption scandal in Petrobras combined with economic setback led to protests against Rousseff followed by her suspension from office amid accusations of concealing the country’s budget deficit ahead of the 2014 re-election.
http://sputniknews.com/latam/20160730/1043776642/brazil-crisis-court-trial.html
Former Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva along with a number of top officials are in charge of the Federal Prosecution Service, local media reported on Friday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Brazilian federal judge has accepted obstruction charges filed by the Federal Prosecution Service against country's former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva along with a number of top officials, local media reported on Friday.
According to Agencia Brasil, Lula da Silva is accused of interfering in Operation Car Wash investigation into Brazil’s state oil and gas company Petrobras corruption affair as he tried to stop former Petrobras International Director Nestor Cervero from making a deal with investigators.
Operation Car Wash (Lava Jato) has been ongoing since 2014 in a bid to probe into kick-back schemes in Petrobras then run by now suspended President Dilma Rousseff. The corruption scandal in Petrobras combined with economic setback led to protests against Rousseff followed by her suspension from office amid accusations of concealing the country’s budget deficit ahead of the 2014 re-election.
http://sputniknews.com/latam/20160730/1043776642/brazil-crisis-court-trial.html
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Roussef has been impeached by the Senate. Brazil can go back to being a banana plantation for Uncle Scam.
In the future Russia should ease off on cooperation with Latin America. It is firmly stuck up Uncle Scam's ass
and Russia only serves as an excuse for the compardor elites to screw over the impoverished majority. Russia
must not allow itself to be used for this.
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Brazil was always a banana republic, before Lula, with Lula and Rousseff, and now after them. Don't you remember how 10 years ago Lula was praised by the New York Times or The Wall Street Journal? As long as there is no pragmatic governments in the region, and we remain dominated by any kind of ideology (be it US-lickers liberals or left wing anti-imperialists) our countries will continue being failed states.kvs wrote:Brazil can go back to being a banana plantation for Uncle Scam.
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Again and Again: Former Brazilian President Faces New Corruption Charges
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Lula da Silva was charged with money laundering, corruption and abuse of power, which, combined, could send him to prison for up to 35 years, The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
The former president, enmeshed in an investigation of a fraud scheme run by the state oil company Petrobras, has already been charged with obstruction of justice, money laundering and corruption in two separate lawsuits. In 2014, it was revealed that businesses paid more than $2 billion in bribes to sign contracts with the oil company and obtain projects which later increased in cost. The scandal triggered a large-scale inquiry and discontent which were partly responsible for the impeachment of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff who headed the company in 2003-2010.
Lula da Silva served as the president of Brazil from 2003 to 2010.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/latam/201610111046203116-silva-corruption-charges/
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Lula da Silva was charged with money laundering, corruption and abuse of power, which, combined, could send him to prison for up to 35 years, The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
The former president, enmeshed in an investigation of a fraud scheme run by the state oil company Petrobras, has already been charged with obstruction of justice, money laundering and corruption in two separate lawsuits. In 2014, it was revealed that businesses paid more than $2 billion in bribes to sign contracts with the oil company and obtain projects which later increased in cost. The scandal triggered a large-scale inquiry and discontent which were partly responsible for the impeachment of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff who headed the company in 2003-2010.
Lula da Silva served as the president of Brazil from 2003 to 2010.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/latam/201610111046203116-silva-corruption-charges/
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Lets see if there will be justice or double standards. President Temer who replaced Rousseff faces impeachment for corruption
Violence erupted late on Thursday in Rio de Janeiro after protesters rallying for the resignation of President Michel Temer, who is engulfed in a corruption scandal, clashed with police. Thousands of protesters marched peacefully at first in downtown Rio. After they reached their final destination, an anarchist group known as Black Bloc clashed violently with police.
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https://www.rt.com/news/423241-brazil-supreme-court-lula-jail/
Lula got taken down - pending armed revolution. If Brazil can be kept in paralysis, it makes Venezuela an easier target long term.
BRICS down to effectively 2 - China and Russia.
Brazil and India are in a way "compromised". South Africa got problems to solve.
Former Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva can be jailed on corruption charges, the country’s supreme court has ruled, dismissing an application to allow him to remain free pending an appeal against those charges.
The country’s top court has voted 6-5 to deny Lula’s plea and ruled he must start serving a 12-year prison sentence for graft. According to the ruling, Lula may now be detained at any time and will likely not be allowed to run for the country's top seat in October.
The popular 72-year-old politician, who is leading in all opinion polls ahead of the October presidential elections, was convicted of money laundering and passive corruption last July. The Supreme Federal Court’s (STF) decision may put an end to da Silva's expected return to politics.
Lula got taken down - pending armed revolution. If Brazil can be kept in paralysis, it makes Venezuela an easier target long term.
BRICS down to effectively 2 - China and Russia.
Brazil and India are in a way "compromised". South Africa got problems to solve.
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Jail by Friday.