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    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

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    Post  TR1 Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:52 am

    Slightly higher res version.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:38 am

    The forward gun position is well forward... it should have excellent arcs of fire when it is fitted.
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    Post  Vympel Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:07 pm

    Very large new image
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    Post  Vympel Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:37 pm

    Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg
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    Post  Viktor Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:50 pm

    Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg

    Could this be an export version?
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    Post  Vympel Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:03 am

    Viktor wrote:

    Could this be an export version?

    That's what I've been told.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:19 am

    Viktor wrote:
    Vympel wrote:Don't know if this has been posted:

    http://s5.uploads.ru/O3LlZ.jpg

    Could this be an export version?

    Should be a variant of proekt 22356, which is the export model of proekt 22350.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:18 am

    Vympel wrote:
    Viktor wrote:

    Could this be an export version?

    That's what I've been told.
    is it because of the lack of AESA?
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    Post  TR1 Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:52 am

    http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:12 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://www.wrk.ru/forums/attachment.php?item=384544&download=2&type=.jpg

    It looks like all electronics are now installed on the ship. Only gun is missing.
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    Post  calripson Sat May 24, 2014 6:26 am

    When is the Admiral Gorshkov finally going to enter service ? This ship has taken a ridiculous amount of time to build.
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    Post  GarryB Sat May 24, 2014 3:49 pm

    It will have formidable firepower and capabilities... no previous Russian or Soviet surface ship has had the same performance potential... and yes I am including the Kirov class in this... with 4 UKSK tubes the Gorshkov could carry up to 32 Onyx missiles... but it could also carry up to 32 x 2,500km range land attack missiles... which is something the Kirovs can't do... yet.

    the electronics on board are AEGIS like in the form of SIGMA.
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    Post  navyfield Sat May 24, 2014 11:45 pm

    compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Sun May 25, 2014 12:27 am

    navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...

    Burke is a cold war dinosaur used for gunboat diplomacy against the 3rd world . Gorshkov is a full on 21 century warship perfectly suiting russia's naval strategic needs. Not to mention practically all its weapons are massively superior to what the burke carries. No contest. BTW also forgot gorshkov's LO measures.

    I have no idea how you see the point of comparing 2 ships that aren't even in the same class let alone era.
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    Post  TR1 Sun May 25, 2014 1:03 am

    navyfield wrote:compaired to american burke nothig spectacular...

    You are comparing a 4 thousand ton ship to a 10,000 ton ship.

    Are you retarded?

    Funny how the former has much better anti-ship capabilities too Wink .
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    Post  GarryB Sun May 25, 2014 3:45 pm

    The fact that a Cruiser is comparable to a Frigate is amusing... all the more so when the Cruiser comes up short in some areas...
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu May 29, 2014 8:47 am

    New picture:

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    Post  partizan Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:15 pm

    Any recent news (or photos )about Kasatonov and Golovko?
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:45 am

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    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:35 am

    This may be a strange question to some of you, but why are the bridges of modern ships still in the middle/front of the ship itself? Would not it be more efficient to "push it back" leaving all the weapons on/in the bow? I feel like designers could increase the amount of firepower substantially by doing this. Especially in smaller ships like corvettes and frigates, including the Gorshkovs. If you are having a hard time visualizing this, think of a typical cargo ship. Of course the landing pad would remain behind the bridge, maybe with a CIWS system or two.

    Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    EDIT:

    Seems like frigates and corvettes are playing a large role in Russia's navy to come. Sounds like a smart idea, versus going with lower numbers of more expensive ships (you should know who I'm talking about). The fact that each one of these ships has great firepower for their size should worry the US Navy.


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    Post  zg18 Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:05 am

    Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    "Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun

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    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:11 am

    Bummer, hopefully that speeds along.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:28 am

    zg18 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Anyway, any updates on the ships themselves? I can't wait to see them finished!

    "Gorshkov" is almost complete , delay is due to A-192 130mm deck gun

    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov - Page 8 13-1023d

    The gun in the picture is an A-192; proekt 22350 will use the A-192M.
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    Post  Mike E Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:46 am

    Is there much of a difference?
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:05 am

    Mike E wrote:Is there much of a difference?

    The turret enclosures have different geometry. I am not aware of other differences but there maybe some.

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