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    Post  hoom Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:19 pm

    Was going to mention that, Charly shows a 5th under construction Admiral Yumashev but I don't believe it was laid down & the order has presumably been cancelled.
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    Post  Luq man Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:17 pm

    Gas turbine engines (GTE) for the last two frigates of project 22350, Admiral Golovko and Admiral Isakov are ready. This Mil.Press FlotProm was informed by a high-ranking source in the industry. According to him, these GTE are completely domestic and built on the Rybinsk "Saturn".

    The power installation of the ships will be equipped with gearboxes produced by the St. Petersburg "Star". A source in the company told the journalist that the units are not yet ready, but the current leadership of the "Star" is in constant contact with the Rybinsk "Saturn". On July 28, during the ceremony of handing over the Navy of the head frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov, the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Alexei Rakhmanov told Mil.Press FlotProm that the GTE for the last two frigates of the series would be domestic. He also expressed confidence that these ships will be built on time.

    Prior to the termination of military-technical cooperation with Ukraine, Severnaya Verf managed to obtain complete sets of energy for the main and first production ships of Project 22350. The following frigate for the series, Admiral Golovko (plant number 923), was not fully equipped. "ODK-Saturn" led the development of domestic shipboard GTE from 2014. In April 2017, the enterprise demonstrated a sample of an M90FP unit with a capacity of 20.2 MW. The declared efficiency of the turbine was 36% compared to 32% for the analog of the Ukrainian production. The first two units of Severnaya Verf are planned to be delivered by the end of 2018.

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    Post  hoom Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:34 pm

    Gorshkov bridge from flag raising ceremony pics http://kuleshovoleg.ru/?p=2431
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    Post  hoom Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:41 pm

    From Flotprom coverage of UAC booth at Army 2018 https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%8F94/

    Is this just the export version 22356 we've seen before with Shtil-1?
    Pics are labeled as 22356 but I don't recall seeing the big engagement radar on the hangar previously & the freeboard seems higher  Suspect
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    Edit: nah, this was exhibited previously in 2014
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    Its got an interesting VLS layout
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    Edit2: Ah but it has been previously displayed with Shtil-1 & MR90 firecontrol rather than the big one, I'm not misremembering angel
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    Post  Isos Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:05 pm

    What are the big VLS on the 2nd picture of your first edit ?.

    It's like 4 times bigger than UKSK.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:25 am

    That is a 1x UKSK.  The 2x8 SAM bins forward of the bridge (where the 22350 has its 2x UKSK) look like Shtil to me, though the VLS bin arrangement is different to the one on the 11356s.

    The 3x VLS bins fwds of the UKSK look to be Redut, same bin config as installed to the 22350.
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    Post  LMFS Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:44 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:That is a 1x UKSK.  The 2x8 SAM bins forward of the bridge (where the 22350 has its 2x UKSK) look like Shtil to me, though the VLS bin arrangement is different to the one on the 11356s.

    The 3x VLS bins fwds of the UKSK look to be Redut, same bin config as installed to the 22350.

    The higher VLS cells (the ones close to the bridged) are for Kalibr IMHO, the rest for SAMs... but don't know what models exactly Very Happy

    Just a matter of length of the missiles. CMs are way longer than SAMs.
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    Post  hoom Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:48 am

    What are the big VLS on the 2nd picture of your first edit ?.
    Indeed.
    With an S-300FM style engagement radar I presume its S-300 VLS, to which the semi-mythical designation Krepost may apply.

    The size is very problematic if it can't also carry quad 9M96 or something.

    But presumably Krepost is replaced by UKSK-M
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:15 pm

    Isos wrote:What are the big VLS on the 2nd picture of your first edit ?.

    It's like 4 times bigger than UKSK.

    Considering the Radar in the back most likely a 92N6E "Grave Stone", it's probably the navalized S-400 system.
    Granted without the 400km range missiles, since that requires the 91N6E "Big Bird".
    BTW, is there a naval version of the Big Bird?
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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:04 pm

    Grave Stone is fire control radar.
    Big Bird is early warning radar.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:52 am

    LMFS wrote:The higher VLS cells (the ones close to the bridged) are for Kalibr IMHO

    Hmm... on second thoughts you're right, but why haven't the model builders used hatch covers that resemble the UKSK? A little sloppy for what should be a promotional model....
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:32 am

    Hole wrote:Grave Stone is fire control radar.
    Big Bird is early warning radar.

    Yes, i was assuming that the radars on the superstructure is the search radar, while Gravestone handles the targeting, else its the 96L6, which i doubt.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:01 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    LMFS wrote:The higher VLS cells (the ones close to the bridged) are for Kalibr IMHO

    Hmm...  on second thoughts you're right, but why haven't the model builders used hatch covers that resemble the UKSK? A little sloppy for what should be a promotional model....
    We are talking about these right?

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    They are not very detailed but otherwise similar to the UKSK in other 22350s:



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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:27 am

    LMFS wrote:We are talking about these right?
    Yep. What I don't get is why the modeller used accurately styled VLS covers for the SAMs but some BS generic ones for the UKSK. Its inaccurate and causes confusion. Oh well, such is life.
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    Post  hoom Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:12 am

    Apparently Gorshkov left for the North on 1st Sept.

    And a beautyshot I love you
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    Post  hoom Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:26 am

    Arrived at Severomorsk https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3335152.html
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