Cold War II_(US-West vs Russia/China tensions)

SeigSoloyvov wrote:25B?

LOL where the flying **** are you getting those numbers.

Try around at best 1B in annual revenue.

Typical KVS making up BS.

His figures are accurate in total natural gas exports for 2020. However due to a mild winter, sales were down to EU and unable to find figures for just them.

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:25B?

LOL where the flying **** are you getting those numbers.

Try around at best 1B in annual revenue.

Typical KVS making up BS.

His figures are accurate in total natural gas exports for 2020. However due to a mild winter, sales were down to EU and unable to find figures for just them.

Master Card and Visa aren't used for those types of transactions.

He stated 25B in revenue for Mastercard and Visa in Russia, which just isn't factually correct.

They do not make that money yearly off the Russian Market.

Big_Gazza wrote:

kvs wrote:

I was enjoying the rare moment of honest reflection from these people, then the stupid fucking whores started yabbering their BS about "Russian troops massing on Ukraines borders" or Russias "egrarious activities".....

The moral of this tale is eternal.  The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.  Murican conservatives are liars and snakes, every bit as feckless and dishonest, and no more trustworthy than the libtard hordes of the senile kiddy-sniffer.

Not just traditional Western Cuntservatives, but also the Alt-Right are snakes in the grass too! I remember Alex Jones in the late 1990's blood-libeling Russia. I recall the infamous access TV rant from Alex Jones Dec. 31st, 1999 where he falsely claimed Russia was launching nukes at America, so how'd that turn out? Before that he was on access TV falsely claiming VVP had 10's of thousands of North Korean slaves working in Siberia. It was nothing more than North Korea paying off it's Cold War debt to the USSR, and North Korean guest workers were building civil infrastructure projects to pay off the debt, but that didn't stop the pathological liar Alex Jones!  Alex Jones' quislings also falsely claimed a Moskit missile struck the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:25B?

LOL where the flying **** are you getting those numbers.

Try around at best 1B in annual revenue.

Typical KVS making up BS.

His figures are accurate in total natural gas exports for 2020. However due to a mild winter, sales were down to EU and unable to find figures for just them.

When the gas price was higher Russia was making over $30 billion.

kvs wrote:

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:25B?

LOL where the flying **** are you getting those numbers.

Try around at best 1B in annual revenue.

Typical KVS making up BS.

His figures are accurate in total natural gas exports for 2020. However due to a mild winter, sales were down to EU and unable to find figures for just them.

When the gas price was higher Russia was making over $30 billion.

Again you stated Mastercard and Visa make 25B a year off the Russian Market which ISN'T true at all.

So what is Belarus waiting for? Kick out all American diplomats including the ambassador from Belarus and shut down the American embassy.  

This is also an opportune moment for Russia to make Belarus join the Russian Federation.

‘US-backed coup plot’ involving assassination of Belarusian president, other officials foiled by Minsk & Moscow

Several people, including two in Russia, have been arrested for allegedly plotting an armed insurrection against the Belarusian president. He claims that the US may have sanctioned the assassination attempt.

Earlier this week, several Belarusian opposition figures were arrested in their home country and in neighboring Russia. The two nations made it clear that those arrested are all suspected of plotting an armed insurrection against President Alexander Lukashenko, whose long grip on power was challenged last year by mass protests. Members of the alleged conspiracy, who remain free, dismissed the accusations and said they were simply fantasizing about Lukashenko’s downfall.

The existence of an alleged plot to kill Lukashenko, other top Belarusian officials, and even their family members was revealed on Saturday. In Minsk, the national broadcaster ONT ran a story naming suspected conspirators and exposing their plans. The report offered as evidence several clips of what appears to be Zoom meetings between them.

Luka made it clear, No Union state.

Radio "Free" Europe and other foreign agent "media" in Russia is packing its bags and relocating outside of the country.
Looks like the foreign agents law is doing its job.

But this move looks like it is being done in anticipation of a major disinformation campaign by NATzO against the Russian
elections. By moving their urnalists out of Russia, they avoid the risk of them facing prosecution for spreading of
fake news and propaganda.

I as just reading about Elbe Day and realised its anniversary is in four days time. Despite everything with Ukraine, I reckon there's more chance of a metaphorical 'Elbe day' between the West and Russia (i.e meeting as allies) than a world war and it's something I'd like to see happen. The question is, of course, how long it will take.

Message of the President of the era of military danger

Rostislav Ishchenko

The section of the Russian President's address to the Federal Assembly devoted to the assessment of events related to the coup d'etat in Belarus is important and may even be singled out as an independent part, but it is still logical to consider it in the general foreign policy context

In this case, we can combine the potential three main parts of the message into two: domestic and foreign policy.

I don't consider it necessary to comment particularly on the internal political one — it is generally standard and tells us what we have done and what we are going to do. I would single out its obvious social orientation. Moreover, I am not sure that the increased social obligations of the authorities are justified from the point of view of the interests of the state's economic development. In principle, over the two years of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia has already established itself as the most socially oriented state on the planet. Those of our compatriots who do not want to see a faster (in comparison with the surrounding world) rise in the standard of living of Russians will not see anything, even if they are covered with gold up to their necks, bathed in champagne and fed exclusively with scallops and sea urchins (sea urchins).

At the same time, the European experience teaches us that too strong a social policy leads to two negative social consequences that can eventually destroy society, the economy and the state. First, a class of social rentiers is being created who want to live on welfare all their lives and not work. Secondly, "social emigration" or "sausage emigration" is stimulated. Expats from countries with lower living standards find that living on welfare is in any case richer than living on a salary in their own countries, and begin to arrive en masse in the "social paradise".

In the end, the local and incoming marginalitats converge to create an active mass group of voters who determine the outcome of any election and vote for a new liberal edition of Sharikovism, the results of which we can get acquainted with the example of the establishment of the left-liberal totalitarian dictatorship of the Bidenites in the United States.
Russia, of course, is still far from the problems that are destroying the Old and New Worlds, but only some thirty years ago, Europe and the United States also seemed to be indestructible oases of prosperity. So a certain amount of caution doesn't hurt.

Nevertheless, I must admit that under the circumstances, the socially oriented passages in Putin's message are justified, and this is explained by the critical foreign policy situation, which requires maximum unity of the people around the government. Since the number of people who believe that "meat is not reported to tigers" in our society has grown at an accelerated rate in recent years (although it has not yet gone beyond reasonable limits), a strong social gesture in anticipation of difficult trials was obviously necessary.
In fact, the domestic political part of the message, for all its formal primacy and relevance, is secondary and official in relation to its international part.

Describing Russia's foreign policy situation, Putin did not accidentally draw attention to the attempted coup in Belarus initiated by the American agency, which he described as unprecedented.

Formally, Vladimir Vladimirovich is wrong: state coups were organized and inconvenient leaders were killed from time immemorial. Even the plot prepared by the British 220 years ago, which ended with the murder of Paul I, did not shake the contemporaries in the least. By that time, the history of human statehood spanned at least seven millennia (possibly more). And this entire period was marred by constant political assassinations, including those organized and financed from abroad.

However, in fact, Putin is absolutely right, because the conspiracy is different from the conspiracy. It's one thing when you change some" President Lozada "to" Anchuria " so that he doesn't interfere with your banana trade, but it's quite another when the result of your conspiracy involves dragging a neighboring nuclear superpower into a large-scale military conflict.
In the previous article, devoted directly to the goals and objectives of the failed Minsk putsch, I analyzed in detail the reasons that make Washington walk on the verge of a full-scale global nuclear conflict, risking the fate of the entire human civilization.

The US cannot maintain global leadership by conventional means. Without global leadership, the United States cannot maintain internal stability, and even preserving the unity of the American state and society becomes problematic. In fact, this is why Putin stated a few years ago the thesis "Why do we need a world in which there will be no Russia?» although it made the Americans think and somewhat moderate their fervor, it did not stop them completely. I did not stop them, because they can also say: "Why do we need a world without the United States?" They cannot keep peace with the kind of America they need, and they are not sure that any other position of the United States in the "beautiful new world" will suit them.

That is why the international section of the presidential address is devoted not so much to analyzing the machinations of the United States and its numerous "tabaks", but to trying to explain to America that they are already too late for the war. I should have started ten years ago, at least five-then I could count on something. Now the Americans are still capable of killing millions, even tens of millions of people, but Russia already has reason to expect that with huge losses, it will be able to preserve civilization and a managed statehood on its territory, which will allow it to start all over again in a world without the United States.

This is what Putin says when he tells listeners that those who attempt to cross the red lines drawn by Russia, the place of which Moscow determines independently, without consulting anyone, "will regret what they did as they have not regretted anything for a long time." It is clear that in this case, through the heads of formal listeners — deputies of both chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation — the President of Russia addresses the true recipients of his words — our Western "friends and partners", some of whom are still inclined to think that a world nuclear war may be an acceptable way out of the crisis for them.

Well, then the president clarifies what he means, recalling the "Daggers", "Zircons", "Calibers", "Poseidons"and " Petrels". About a unique, not just the best, but the only full-fledged air defense system in the world/You don't need to remind me about it. Everyone remembers her anyway.

In an effort to prevent a war, the Russian president says in almost open text to everyone who has ears and wants to hear that our combat units are guaranteed to reach almost everything for their intended purpose, but they will reach us several times (and maybe an order of magnitude) less than they will be launched. That's why we'll catch a cold, and it's probably hard, but at the funeral of our "partners".

An additional argument is also the high efficiency demonstrated by the Russian state system in the fight against coronavirus, mentioned by the president. In fact, the pandemic has provided the entire world with an excellent opportunity to test the readiness of all its services for the post-apocalypse. Russia and China were ready. And in Russia, unlike in the Middle Kingdom, no one closed cities and regions with tens of millions of inhabitants for strict quarantine, did not break the logistical unity of the state. The harsh measures that hit the country's economy, but did not stop it completely, lasted about two months, and everyone had already forgotten about them. At the same time, the West can not get out of the chain of lockdowns.

Thus, Russia is not only able to inflict maximum damage to the enemy with minimal damage, but its state system, all other things being equal, is also much more stable. With certain losses and costs, the Russian system can maintain its manageability and start recovery, even if events develop in the worst possible way.

Putin made his move. This is a strong move. Even in the context of a clear mobilization orientation of the message, the state remains committed to a strong social policy. No guns for oil. Butter will keep us happy until the last day, not to the detriment of the guns.

The Russian president demonstrated to the West (primarily the United States) that Russia is an internally consolidated country and has never been so strong militarily in its history as it is now. The Russian government is confident in its moral correctness and is ready to go to the end. It was Washington's turn, and he didn't have much time to think.

https://ukraina.ru/opinion/20210422/1031200882.html

Zelensky: lost chance and Russian problems

Rostislav Ishchenko

After Shoigu announced the completion of the surprise inspection and gave the command to withdraw troops to their permanent locations, a significant part of Russian experts declared that Russia had fully achieved its goals.

In fact, they repeated the words of the Defense Minister, referring to a specific military-political operation. However, first of all, Sergey Kuzhugetovich gave an assessment of the quality of large-scale exercises conducted by the Armed Forces. Secondly, indeed, there is every reason to assume that the minister's statement also had a "second bottom". But even in this case, we are talking about achieving a specific, very important, not just military, but military-political, but only operational and tactical goal. The strategic tasks facing Russia remained unsolved, and could not be solved by simply moving troops around its territory.

To begin with, we will determine what tasks Russia has solved with the help of a military demonstration near its western borders. The armed forces have demonstrated their ability to defeat in the shortest possible time any group that the collective West (including the United States) is able to assemble on the European continent. The West was shown that by the 7-10 day of the operation (during this time, even the first echelons of "tolerant" armies will not have time to turn around) Russia is capable of creating a multiple advantage over the West in conventional weapons anywhere in the European theater of operations (Theater of Operations). In the context of the use of conventional (conventional) weapons, this is a decisive advantage, ensuring a lightning victory.

This means that without the use of nuclear weapons, the West cannot stop the movement of the Russian army until it stops on its own, or runs into the Atlantic. In the event of a nuclear strike, the United States is automatically drawn into a conflict beyond which it hoped to stay, despite Putin's threat to hit decision-making centers.

This state of affairs has seriously sobered up some pro-American politicians in Western Europe. If until now they thought that the" European war " with Russia would end for their countries in the worst case with the defeat of Poland, now it is clear to them that their work will not be limited to "condemning the aggressor" and sanctions, they will have to pack their bags in a hurry and run overseas (if the Russian Aerospace Forces allow them to evacuate).

Western Europe became subdued and began to loudly ask for peace. And peace was granted to her. Russia reiterated its readiness to resolve all disputed issues through negotiations, but warned of the danger of crossing the "red lines" drawn by Moscow.

This is a truly brilliant peaceful blitzkrieg, conducted in conditions of absolute time pressure. It was initially clear that two armies and three airborne formations could not sit idle in field camps on the western border for long. They must either be used for their intended purpose, or sent to places of permanent deployment. That is, in order to make an indelible impression on Europeans, Russia had a maximum of a month. We managed it in half of this period. The threat of provocation by the Americans in the near future of a major European war is significantly minimized (it is impossible to completely remove it in the current conditions) without firing a single shot.

However, Russia's strategic task-the struggle for Europe-has not been solved. Moreover, there is every reason to believe that the United States will still try to organize a military provocation, although they can no longer count on the same scale. What gives reason to believe so?

First, we see that despite the failure of the conspiracy againstThe US policy towards Belarus has not changed one iota, despite the conciliatory rhetoric of the Belarusian authorities, who expressed their readiness for constructive cooperation (if the West stops tyrannizing over them).

If they wanted to take a break, they would have "heard" Lukashenka's statements about the lack of alternatives to a multi-vector policy for Belarus and would have answered the question constructivelyMakeya what exactly is the US ambassador going to do in Minsk, who is not yet granted a visa by the Belarusian authorities. Washington has repeatedly done this before (and not only in Belarus) - it went for a visible softening of rhetoric and improving relations, knowing full well that a "promising democrat" who deserves encouragement can be declared a "bloody dictator" who deserves to be destroyed at any time. But the Americans maintained a tough stance against Minsk and said through the mouth of the" accredited " in Lithuania at the UN General Assembly.Tikhanovskaya Street the Ambassador to Belarus said that the days of the Minsk regime are numbered. That is, they will try to set fire to Belarus in the near future, despite the failure of the"May 9 conspiracy".

The situation in Ukraine is developing in a similar way. There, the Ukrainian army is conducting provocative "exercises" on the border with Crimea just as Russian troops who have arrived for reinforcement are preparing to return to their places of permanent deployment. At the same time, the shelling of Donbass is intensifying. Zelensky and all members of his team, without exception, make provocative statements against Russia and the Donbass.

In Europe, the Americans mobilized the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and the Baltic States for a second wave of expulsions of Russian diplomats. Naturally, Russia will respond with even tougher measures.

All this paints a picture of Washington's desire, after the failure of the plan for organizing a pan-European war, to enter the light version of the conflict. The United States is clearly trying to organize at least some armed clashes in Belarus, as well as to unfreeze the military conflict in the Donbass. Since Eastern Europe, with all the servility of local politicians, is unlikely to be dragged into such a conflict without absolute guarantees of support from the rest of the West, it is obviously assigned the role of a political brawler. At least a number of Eastern European countries have come so close to severing diplomatic relations with Moscow that it no longer seems out of the ordinary. Moreover, they will also be happy that they can limit themselves to political demarches and not fight.

Why would Washington do that?

Russia and Germany are confident that Nord Stream 2 will be completed this year. Experts believe that this will happen in the summer, but even if the construction is delayed until the end of the year, there is only enough time to block the project. And then it will be too late to "drink Borjomi".

The United States simply does not have time to rework the plan for a pan-European war, which was guaranteed to disrupt the project. We have to work with what we have. They act on the recommendation of Napoleon: "We need to get involved in the battle, and then we will see." Of course, the organization of anti-Lukashenka partisanship in Belarus is not the same as a full-scale civil war complicated by the Polish-Baltic intervention. But in Washington, they reasonably expect that the bandits will not be caught immediately, at least for a couple of months they will be able to create the impression of"armed resistance".

Similarly, the Americans may hope that the gradual, slow deployment of military operations in the Donbas will lead to a delay in the Russian response. Therefore, for some time (at least a week), the war will already be full-fledged, and Russia will not yet erase Ukraine from the political map. Moreover, it should be borne in mind that in assessing the situation in Ukraine, Americans traditionally rely on the opinion of Ukrainian "experts", as well as their own descendants of Bandera, who monopolized Ukrainian topics in the CIA and the State Department. This public tends to exaggerate Ukraine's ability to stand up to Russia. So the United States can also count on the fact that even after Moscow's active intervention, the Ukrainian army will simulate resistance for at least three or four days (before fleeing), and also on the fact that several tens of thousands of radical Nazis will go underground and become partisans, stretching the active phase of resistance for another couple of months.

During all this time, the Eastern Europeans mobilized by the United States should continue the diplomatic sabbath, even to the point of severing diplomatic relations with Moscow and pressuring the structures of the EU, NATO, as well as France and Germany to demonstrate pan-European solidarity and take tough measures against Moscow.

If the crisis in the light version can start in May and last two or three months, then even if it is not possible to completely block the completion of the SP-2, the Americans may try to delay the time, hold out until the winter storms, postpone, thus, the launch of the gas pipeline for another year and get additional time to deal with it,including But the maximum program remains the same — to bring the crisis to its maximum extent and, against this background, force Western Europe to completely curtail cooperation with Russia.

Washington, forced to hurry, acts quite openly, so there is no reason to believe that Moscow does not understand what the US plans for the near future are. Consequently, Moscow is also preparing its own counterplay. This is not without risk, since it is already clear that the United States will be able to ignite military operations (at least in the Ukrainian direction alone). In this case, the final reaction of Western Europe will depend on many small nuances of the development of events, each of which is impossible to foresee.

Therefore, the least risky option for Moscow is an immediate end to the conflict, so that no one in the West even has time to squeak. Moreover, the end should create a new unforeseen situation for the West, in which Europeans (and possibly Americans) will be so preoccupied with the new political reality that they will not be up to blocking SP-2.

I don't know what the Kremlin will come up with this time, but from my point of view, one of the most effective solutions to the problem may be the immediate (within a few days) destruction of Ukraine without creating its official successor.

Let me explain.

First, as long as Ukraine exists — there is also a springboard for anti-Russian provocations. And the Americans, after another lull, are once again using it to provoke a pan-European conflict. It is only for this purpose that they still keep Kiev in a state of half-life, preventing this zombie state from disappearing completely. Since the Ukrainian authorities over the past seven years have convinced the Americans that Kiev cannot be a serious counterweight to Russia, it is not a pity to burn it in a one-time conflict — the main thing is to get benefits from it. So sooner or later they will force Kiev to fight, and perhaps the situation will not be as convenient for Russia as it is now.

Of course, Zelensky could have avoided the worst if he had accepted Putin's offer, recovered for negotiations in Moscow, stopped provocations in the Donbass and started to implement the Minsk agreements in reality, but it has long been clear that he is more afraid of his bandits and Americans than of war, so the chance for a peaceful settlement of the crisis is irrevocably lost.

Secondly, if Ukraine is divided among neighboring states (with or without a nominal sovereign core), and if a dozen or two "people's republics" appear instead of Ukraine, the problem of Ukrainian debt will arise. The total external debt of more than a hundred billion dollars is not an amount that respectable people are willing to sacrifice. In this case, the problem of debt will become a priority, in comparison with the problem of SP-2. In the West, there will be influential forces interested in taking part in legitimizing the post-Ukrainian reality, in exchange for resolving the debt problem. Moreover, it will be easiest for Russia in this regard. Kiev is not going to pay its debts to Moscow anyway. So Russia can safely give up what it will never get anyway, leaving others to sort out who owes what to whom and how much for Ukraine.

The troops transferred to Shoigu, who are now being sent to their permanent locations, as already mentioned, were more than enough to make a rush to the Atlantic, wiping out European armies and American expeditionary forces along the way. For Ukraine, it is enough that it is located on the Western borders on a permanent basis. Moreover, a permanent grouping is enough even to pacify Eastern Europe. Finally, Europeans and Americans have already had the opportunity to make sure that while their "tolerant" armies are brushing their teeth, the Russian Armed Forces are not only able to return to the western border of Russia, but to arrive directly in Paris (fortunately, the army's vaccination against coronavirus is coming to an end, so the military will even have the necessary certificates).

So, Russia has the opportunity to solve the strategic problem on its western borders in the near future, following the operational one. Is the Kremlin ready to solve it? No one knows this, but a number of signs indicate that the decision has been made and a strategic offensive can unfold even without an operational pause.

First, we should pay attention to the fact that the Russian Foreign Ministry not only accepted the challenge of the Eastern Europeans, who unleashed a diplomatic war against us from scratch, but also deliberately escalated, responding not in a mirror image, but with a surplus. Eastern Europeans were put in a situation where they must either wipe themselves and not show off, or go to the aggravation themselves. That is, Russia did not shy away from the conflict, delaying the time, but forced events, which further reduced the US time to respond, forcing it to work from scratch, without calculating possible risks, or retreat.

Secondly, it may not be so noticeable, and it seems insignificant, but in such cases there are no small things. The Donetsk combined arms School suddenly decided to stop recruiting cadets for the current year. Since a military conflict in the Donbas is clearly inevitable in the near future, such a step seems unnatural. After all, the forces of the DPR/LPR and Ukraine are almost comparable (the republics have more equipment, but Kiev has a significant advantage in the number of personnel).

If we assume that the conflict will be limited to the localization of the Ukrainian offensive on the Donbass, then we need to plan heavy battles with heavy losses among personnel, including platoon and company level officers. In this case, early graduates of military schools are often made, and extra cadets would clearly not hurt the Donbass.

But if we assume that Ukraine is preparing a blitzkrieg, in which its armed forces will be destroyed before they come into full contact with the DPR/LPR people's militia corps, everything falls into place. It is clear that after such a conflict, the Donbass will never be Ukrainian again. Moreover, it is practically integrated into Russia in all respects, and the experience of Crimea has shown that the passport registration of the population can be completed in a year or two if necessary.

Let's be frank, the armies of Donbass are not just not needed by Russia, they are in all respects critically short of the level of the Russian Armed Forces. The integration of DPR/LPR soldiers en masse into the Russian Armed Forces will create a serious problem for the Russian army. At the same time, the protection of additional territory by the cash forces of the Russian army is not particularly difficult.

Thus, if we assume that Russia is preparing to dramatically change the strategic situation on its western borders, it simply does not need extra graduates of Donbass "officers", it still has to decide the fate of the existing ones, of which 160 have already been released and from two to three hundred people are still being prepared for graduation (they study in 2-4 courses).

Since Russia recognizes Donetsk educational documents, and young people who chose a military specialty during the war deserve respect, it is humane to allow those already accepted to complete their studies (possibly transferring to other Russian military universities) and dissolve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation those 350-450 young officers from the DPR/LPR who may want to continue their military career. The expediency of the existence of the military school itself in this case is clearly questionable, the existing ones cope with providing the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with officer cadres.

So a whole series of small details pushes us to think that in principle the decision on the fate of Ukraine has already been made. It is now only a matter of choosing a convenient time for its implementation. It is time, because Kiev has given enough reasons for the war. And he will not let up, will provide such reasons every day.

As for the specific date of the operation, its depth and the post-Ukrainian structure of the territory under Kiev's jurisdiction today, no one can foresee this. In this regard, the Kremlin is always happy with pleasant surprises, bringing its politeness to Western "friends and partners" to a state of nervous breakdown.

https://ukraina.ru/opinion/20210424/1031228888.html

Shoigu has done a great job since he became Minister of Defense coming from the Ministry of Emergency Situations.
Doing this kind of mobilization is a great feat of logistics.
I think we all remember how the mobilization for the war on Chechenya went. Russia has come a long way.

People love to claim that Biden is a Chinese stooge. But that is nonsense. The yanquis are foaming at the mouth over the
Chinese "threat" (aka economic competition, which loser America can't handle). Note how the same shrill anti-Chinese tone
emanates from the Biden regime as from Trump's administration.

As for discounting Russia, that is clearly a 1000 year western brain disease. At least it gives Russia more time to re-arm and re-tool.
Keep stroking the dick chauvinist western retards.

kvs wrote:

People love to claim that Biden is a Chinese stooge.   But that is nonsense.   The yanquis are foaming at the mouth over the
Chinese "threat" (aka economic competition, which loser America can't handle).    Note how the same shrill anti-Chinese tone
emanates from the Biden regime as from Trump's administration.  

As for discounting Russia, that is clearly a 1000 year western brain disease.   At least it gives Russia more time to re-arm and re-tool.
Keep stroking the dick chauvinist western retards.

Well it did seem like the CCP was elbow deep in the Democratic Party/Deep State with that video of a high ranking CCP official claiming that they had infiltrated the Party being the cherry on the cake

Other examples being the Chinese investment and the catering of US based companies to China's whims and the special treatment obvious honeypots like Swalwell's girlfriend were given

Point in case being, there is probably a rather heavy battle for influence going on behind the scenes and for now the hawks have taken control and they will start conflict with China be it in whatever form

Also, Killay has spoken. Don't know of any more. Repulsive and despicable person. That is besides Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab of course

Also, and going of on a tangent now, Mercouris changes his position pretty often. I know it's difficult reading the whole situation now that the US is reasserting itself and seems incoherent and without clear direction, but only 10 days ago he was still talking about a New Cold War etc. and now he suddenly changed towards US initiated US-Russia rapprochement

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Also, on another tangent, the US establishment has successfully merged their new state ideology (Critical Race Theory/Intersectionalism) with their old school imperialism.

Social media is awash with trannies and mentally ill calling for hardcore action on Russia (because the merchants have a historical disdain for this traditional, Christian and predominantly White nation) and now China too (in the case of China they will use the Human Rights stick - prepare for non stop propaganda on concentration camps in Xinjiang)

Meanwhile the backbone of the US, White Heritage America, drifts away further and further from these delusional demons

I wish the Trotskyists, their Khazarite masters and all the other genuinely sick-in-the-head people the best of luck. They are going to need it.

The US elites have been trying to get China into their fold since the 1970s. The idea that China plays marionettes with US leaders
is total nonsense. It is perfectly expected that various US elements would keep trying to prevent China from being and independent
entity offering up "existential" competition. If US elements are in bed with the Chinese, that is through their own initiative.

Several years ago we had a Congressional delegation in China worried about rising Chinese wages and non-branch plant production.
The divergence clearly has not stopped.

The West is perfectly ok with China running the sweatshop for them, they are not so ok with Chinese working for their independence, that is where the "partnership" breaks...

LMFS wrote:The West is perfectly ok with China running the sweatshop for them, they are not so ok with Chinese working for their independence, that is where the "partnership" breaks...

I think you're mixing up 'globalist elites' with 'The West'

The average 'Westerner' (which is really a strange term when you come to think of it) was never contented with 40 years of wage stagnation and real income decline, a steep decline in product quality, hidden inflation and 90 million new neighbours

As for the video I was talking about, unfortunately I can't find it. But best believe the CCP is trying to influence decision making in other countries

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/leaked-chinese-document-reveals-a-sinister-plan-to-unleash-coronaviruses/news-story/53674e8108ad5a655e07e990daa85465

Leaked Chinese document reveals a sinister plan to ‘unleash’ coronaviruses


Wuhan Institute of Virology is ‘still genetically manipulating’ bat-coronaviruses

The World Health Organisation’s report on the origins of COVID-19 was a “piece of propaganda” for the Chinese Communist Party, according to Sky News host Sharri…

A document written by Chinese scientists and Chinese public health officials in 2015 discussed the weaponisation of SARS coronavirus, reveals the Weekend Australian.

Wow, what a coincidence. 1. Just after that Australian general was heard on tape saying that war with China seems inevitable and 2. just after the true origin of the Cvodi1984 flu virus seems to have been a North Carolina lab, 3. just after news was broken that the US is engineering viruses on China/Russia's border and 4. just after the Stolen Biden Administration seems to be pivoting towards conflict with China

Again, what a coincidence

On that Australian general bytheway:

The Aussies claim China is a "peer opponent" *snort*.
As if a midget with 26 million people, around the population of Shanghai would be a peer.

Probably from the same brain damage school which claims Russia has about the same sized economy as Spain.

All it would take would be a single ICBM aiming a couple of MIRVs aimed at SE Australia and *splat*.

The aussies are anti chinese paranoid lunatics... their proof will all be highly likely and if you push them for the actual evidence they will either say it is secret or that their dog ate the files along with their homework... but that it is the sort of thing China would do because China is evil.

GarryB wrote:The aussies are anti chinese paranoid lunatics... their proof will all be highly likely and if you push them for the actual evidence they will either say it is secret or that their dog ate the files along with their homework... but that it is the sort of thing China would do because China is evil.

Western propaganda was muffled against China until it started leaving the reservation that was prepared for it by Kissinger.
China is now feeling the hate for daring to partner up (for real) with Russia. The current drivel spew over the "dangerous"
deorbit of the Chinese rocket that delivered a space station module into LEO is pure cold war nonsense. I recall the
Japs bitching that Mir was going rain debris over Japan when it was being deorbited. And that was more than 10 years
after the supposed end of the cold war.

Russia takes very seriously the threat posed by US laboratories around their territory, no need to point out how dangerous this shit is:

The Security Council will develop measures to combat threats from Western biolabs

https://ria.ru/20210511/sovbez-1731764784.html

LMFS wrote:Russia takes very seriously the threat posed by US laboratories around their territory, no need to point out how dangerous this shit is:

The Security Council will develop measures to combat threats from Western biolabs

https://ria.ru/20210511/sovbez-1731764784.html

Prime candidates for remote attack under humanitarian law. There is no reason for these labs to be located where they are.
Even if they pretend they are civilian labs, there is no scientific value associated with their location.

^ They pose an existential threat and Russia and China are fully entitled to turning them into rubble anytime they want. If US wants to go nuclear about it, let them do it.