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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:42 am

    Indeed... this platform is designed to resist ice so you could anchor it in one location and keep it there for over a year whether the ice remains there or not... if they need to move then they can just recover things sitting on the ice nearby and recover experiments and raise the anchors and move...

    This vessel will have waste management and process facilities too... any sewerage is hopefully processed and anything discharged into the water should be safe and could contribute nutrients to the local environment if processed properly.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:16 am

    GarryB wrote:Indeed... this platform is designed to resist ice so you could anchor it in one location...

    Not exactly

    The idea is for it be frozen in place and then slowly drift with the ice sheet
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:48 pm

    Nevsky shipbuilding and ship repair yard will build two research vessels of project 17050

    December 28th, 23:08
    LLC "Nevsky Shipbuilding and Shiprepairing Plant" (Shlisselburg; part of JSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation") announced that it would build two research vessels of project 17050 for the Federal State Budgetary Scientific Institution All-Russian Research Institute of Fisheries and Oceanography (FGBNU VNIRO ). Project image of a research vessel of project 17050 for the All-Russian Research Institute of Fisheries and Oceanography (c) LLC Nevsky Shipbuilding and Shiprepairing Plant

    In December 2020, Nevsky Shipyard signed a contract for the construction of two research vessels of project 17050 with the All-Russian Research Institute of Fisheries and Oceanography (FSBSI VNIRO).

    The vessels of the project 17050 are designed to carry out complex fishery and oceanographic research. They can take on board 26 crew members and a scientific group. NIS will be equipped with laboratories of hydrobiology and hydrology, an analytical laboratory, and a fish shop. Also, the ship will have two types of STD probes for measuring water parameters: electrical conductivity, temperature and pressure.

    RS class - KM (*) Ice3 (Hull, Machinery) AUT1-ICS EPP ECO DYNPOS-1 Fishing vessel


    Main characteristics:

    Length, m 54
    Width, m 13.6
    Draft, m 6 Speed, knots 14
    Crew, people 26
    Main engine power, kW 3200
    Autonomy, days 20


    In turn, the information and analytical agency IAA PortNews reported:

    LLC Nevsky Shipbuilding and Shiprepairing Plant (Nevsky Shipyard, Leningrad Region, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, USC) won an open tender for the construction of two medium-tonnage research vessels of project 17050, conducted by the All-Russian Research Institute of Fisheries and Oceanography (VNIRO, Moscow), according to the minutes of the meeting of the tender committee published in the materials of the official website of the Unified Information System in the field of procurement.

    The procedure for an open tender in electronic form was declared invalid due to the fact that at the end of the deadline for submitting applications for participation in an open tender in electronic form, only one application was submitted. “On the basis of Clause 3, Part 2, Art. 55.1 of the Federal Law No. 44-FZ to conclude a contract with LLC "NEVSKY CVZ" INN 4706020609, which offered the contract price of 5.892 billion rubles. , in accordance with paragraph 25 h. 1 of Art. 93 of Federal Law No. 44-FZ in accordance with the procedure established by Article 83.2 of Federal Law No. 44-FZ, in connection with the recognition of the application filed by him for participation in an open tender in electronic form complying with the requirements of Federal Law No. 44-FZ and tender documentation, " minutes of the meeting of the tender committee.

    According to the tender documentation, the NIS is designed to carry out complex fisheries and oceanographic studies. The R / V's length is 54 m, width - 13.6 m, maximum speed - 14 knots.

    The vessel will be able to take on board 26 crew members and a scientific group. NIS will be equipped with laboratories of hydrobiology and hydrology, an analytical laboratory, and a fish shop.

    The ships are to be handed over to the customer in November 2022.

    As mentioned in an interview with IAA "IAA" reported Deputy Head of the Federal Agency for Fishery Petr Savchuk, the agency hopes to build three NIS seventh generation 120 m long, and five NIS length of about 70 m. Also in the plans bore the construction of two NICs, up to 40 m.

    From the bmpd indicatethat the technical design of the NIS project 17050 under a separate contract with the Federal State Budgetary Scientific Institution "VNIRO" was developed by JSC Leningrad Shipbuilding Plant Pella (JSC Pella). The basis, apparently, is some kind of foreign project.

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    Post  Scorpius Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:49 pm


    According to the production plan of the Zvezda shipyard, 178 vessels of various classes should be built at the shipyard by 2035.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:30 pm



    After the collapse of the USSR, Russia had almost no shipbuilding capacity. Before 1990 it was concentrated in the socialist
    bloc, Ukraine and the Baltic republics. During the 1990s Russia was not building any ships. Even though Russia got 50% of
    Soviet ships, it did not get critical ones such as refrigerated ones, ice class tankers and cargo ships. It did not get key support
    ships in the Black Sea and the Caspian where they went to Ukraine and Azerbaijan. One can properly say that Russia's marine fleet
    and construction capacity were fully gutted.

    Now compare to what happened on Putin's watch since 1999. Russia has established a growing ship building industry making
    most types of ships aside from the largest container carrier types (for now) and is actively developing domestic capability.
    This includes the tankers being built at Zvezda which only have South Korean participation in the initial batch. Going from
    zero to lead pack in this industry in 20 years while recovering from the worst depression seen by any country in the last
    100 years is a spectacular achievement.

    Naturally, the 5th column MSM in Russia tries to piss on this by lying about how the Zvezda tanker construction is some
    trivial assembly of South Korean components even though 50% of the cost of building a ship is after the hull is finished.
    Kommersant and its fellow traitor travelers ignore that the EU has basically lost its market share in world ship construction.
    They also managed to screw over Greece and kill its ship repair business. Any win in Russia is always painted as a fail.
    I think that there is enough historical justification to round up and expel all these "journalist" traitors. If they need to write
    their blood libel fantasy fiction, they can do it from NATzO.



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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:Indeed... this platform is designed to resist ice so you could anchor it in one location and keep it there for over a year whether the ice remains there or not... if they need to move then they can just recover things sitting on the ice nearby and recover experiments and raise the anchors and move...

    This vessel will have waste management and process facilities too... any sewerage is hopefully processed and anything discharged into the water should be safe and could contribute nutrients to the local environment if processed properly.

    Given the number of people it can accommodate this is feasible. They can compost the waste by aerating the toilet outflow instead of
    just collecting. Letting bacteria do the job is more efficient than any chemical solution.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:16 pm

    kvs wrote:

    After the collapse of the USSR, Russia had almost no shipbuilding capacity.   Before 1990 it was concentrated in the socialist
    bloc, Ukraine and the Baltic republics.    During the 1990s Russia was not building any ships.    Even though Russia got 50% of
    Soviet ships, it did not get critical ones such as refrigerated ones, ice class tankers and cargo ships.   It did not get key support
    ships in the Black Sea and the Caspian where they went to Ukraine and Azerbaijan.   One can properly say that Russia's marine fleet
    and construction capacity were fully gutted.  

    Now compare to what happened on Putin's watch since 1999.   Russia has established a growing ship building industry making
    most types of ships aside from the largest container carrier types (for now) and is actively developing domestic capability.
    This includes the tankers being built at Zvezda which only have South Korean participation in the initial batch.   Going from
    zero to lead pack in this industry in 20 years while recovering from the worst depression seen by any country in the last
    100 years is a spectacular achievement.  

    Naturally, the 5th column MSM in Russia tries to piss on this by lying about how the Zvezda tanker construction is some
    trivial assembly of South Korean components even though 50% of the cost of building a ship is after the hull is finished.  
    Kommersant and its fellow traitor travelers ignore that the EU has basically lost its market share in world ship construction.
    They also managed to screw over Greece and kill its ship repair business.   Any win in Russia is always painted as a fail.
    I think that there is enough historical justification to round up and expel all these "journalist" traitors.   If they need to write
    their blood libel fantasy fiction, they can do it from NATzO.  

    So the last 2 ships of the 10 being built will be 100% Russian, and the next 4 dozen or so orders will be fully Russian. This is what I got from the video.

    I dont particularly see a problem either with doing some screw driver assembly of foreign ships. If the ships are needed here and now, and instead of buying them directly from another country, its better to do some assembly and then build the remaining parts yourself. Creates jobs, keeps money and skilled workers in, and creates new investments all the while you get the product you need.

    Liberalists do not understand economy at all. They complain about everything, provide no alternatives other than shit.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:26 pm

    The 5th column liberasts are not engaging in honest criticism. As you note, buying foreign products is fully justified and
    that is supposedly what the US-advocated free trade is all about. But all of the sudden Russia localizing foreign ship
    component assembly is a fail. WTF.

    The objective is to create hysteria. Have enough barking critics making noise about something and people start to believe that
    there is a problem where there is none. This is how regime change is boot-strapped. The follow-the-heard reflex of humans is
    a serious intellectual weakness. It is real and that is why you have stage managed fashion trends and PR companies. If people
    think that "their" herd is moving in a certain direction, they reflexively follow. This weakness is exploited during elections by faking
    opinion polls. People really do vote as a herd. The existence of different parties or right-left ideological differences do not nullify
    this fact. There is no law of physics forcing the existence of only one tribe.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:56 pm

    kvs wrote:The 5th column liberasts are not engaging in honest criticism.  As you note, buying foreign products is fully justified and
    that is supposedly what the US-advocated free trade is all about.   But all of the sudden Russia localizing foreign ship
    component assembly is a fail.  WTF.  

    The objective is to create hysteria.   Have enough barking critics making noise about something and people start to believe that
    there is a problem where there is none.   This is how regime change is boot-strapped.   The follow-the-heard reflex of humans is
    a serious intellectual weakness.   It is real and that is why you have stage managed fashion trends and PR companies.   If people
    think that "their" herd is moving in a certain direction, they reflexively follow.   This weakness is exploited during elections by faking
    opinion polls.  People really do vote as a herd.   The existence of different parties or right-left ideological differences do not nullify
    this fact.  There is no law of physics forcing the existence of only one tribe.  


    I would say Russia does a good job of having a counter these people with videos and articles but they need something official and not just something like private youtube groups. There needs to be an active group, big and lots of attention in media, that counters these 5th columnists. It is surprising to me that Russia never really learned its lesson regarding how media works and how it is used against them and how their methods of countering them are rather weak.

    I give props to these youtube groups who do actively destroy the 5th column narrative, but yeah, still work to be done.
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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:53 pm

    https://portnews.ru/news/307637/

    The Zvezda shipbuilding complex (Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Krai) has begun construction of the second ice-class LNG tanker ARC 7. This was reported by the press service of PJSC NK Rosneft ”

    The first detail of the future vessel was cut out in the hull production unit on a high-tech plasma machine.

    Gas tankers are being built in the interests of PAO NOVATEK for the Arctic LNG-2 project. The project for the construction of new ships is financed by VEB.RF.

    As previously reported, SK Zvezda and VEB.RF Group companies signed contracts for the construction of 15 LNG carriers designed to transport LNG in the ice conditions of the Northern Sea Route.

    The vessels will be operated under long-term time charter agreements between PJSC Sovcomflot (for a pilot vessel) and LLC SMART LNG (a subsidiary of Sovcomflot and NOVATEK Group of companies , for the remaining 14 vessels in the series) with LLC Arctic LNG 2 "(A subsidiary of PAO NOVATEK).

    LNG tankers of ice class ARC 7 are designed to transport liquefied natural gas and are capable of operating in harsh climatic conditions. The length of the vessel is 300 m, the width is 48.8 m, the capacity of cargo tanks is 172.6 thousand m3. These vessels are distinguished by increased environmental safety - they use liquefied natural gas as the main fuel.

    The design of the gas carrier allows to independently overcome ice more than 2 m thick. The power plant of the gas carrier is 45 MW. The vessel is equipped with three unique rudder propellers, the production of which is localized in Bolshoy Kamen at Zavod VRK Sappir, a joint venture between Rosneft and GE.

    “Cooperation of the SCF Group with NOVATEK and domestic shipbuilders contributes to the localization of new technologies of civil shipbuilding in Russia and the creation in Russia of its own serial production of modern marine facilities using high-level technologies and engineering solutions. It is gratifying to note that all vessels ordered by PJSC Sovcomflot from Russian shipbuilding enterprises are either intended for the transportation of LNG, which is currently the cleanest energy carrier, or specially designed to use LNG as the main fuel, which significantly reduces the impact on the planet's ecosystem ", - said Igor Tonkovidov, CEO - Chairman of the Management Board of PJSC Sovcomflot, during the ceremony.

    The Zvezda shipbuilding complex is being built on the basis of the Zvezda Far East shipyard by a consortium of investors led by Rosneft on behalf of the Russian President. To date, the shipyard's portfolio includes 12 Aframax tankers, 10 of which are ordered by Rosnefteflot.

    The total order book of the shipyard includes over 50 vessels. The pilot loading of the complex is provided by Rosneft, which has placed an order for 28 vessels at the shipyard. The Zvezda product line will include vessels with a displacement of up to 350 thousand tons, offshore drilling platforms, nuclear icebreakers and ice-class vessels, large-capacity transport vessels, including gas tankers, special vessels and other types of marine equipment of any complexity, characteristics and purposes, in including equipment that was not previously produced in Russia due to the lack of necessary launching and hydraulic structures.

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:50 pm

    https://www.rosneft.ru/press/news/item/204643/

    The Zvezda shipbuilding complex has started construction of the third MR-type product tanker operating on NGV. The cutting of the first parts of the hull of the future ship began in the hull production block on a new high-tech gas-plasma machine installed as part of the expansion of the existing capacities of the main workshop of the shipyard.

    The deadweight of the tanker will be about 50 thousand tons, length - over 180 meters, width - over 32 meters, draft - 13 meters. Vessels of ice class 1B can safely carry out year-round navigation, including in the ice conditions of the Baltic Sea.

    The tankers are designed to transport oil products and gas condensate and will operate under long-term time charter agreements between Sovcomflot Group and PAO NOVATEK. The project is financed by the VEB.RF group.

    The power plants of the product tankers will operate on environmentally friendly gas engine fuel. This fuel can significantly reduce the volume of emissions into the atmosphere. The technical characteristics of the vessels were developed taking into account the new requirements of the International Maritime Organization (IMO).

    The Zvezda shipbuilding complex is being created by the Consortium headed by Rosneft Oil Company on behalf of the President of Russia V.V. Putin. To date, the shipyard's portfolio of orders includes over 50 vessels. The pilot loading of the complex is provided by Rosneft, which has placed an order for 28 vessels at the shipyard. The Zvezda product line will include vessels with a displacement of up to 350 thousand tons, offshore drilling platforms, nuclear icebreakers and ice-class vessels, large-capacity transport vessels, including gas tankers, special ships and other types of marine equipment of any complexity, characteristics and purposes, including equipment that was not previously produced in Russia due to the lack of necessary launching and hydraulic structures.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:16 am

    GarryB wrote:Nice.

    Those azipods and props are designed so that if the ice is really thick it can reverse into the ice with the azipods pointing with its blades forward facing the ice chopping it up like a blender to improve its ability to sail through thicker ice and render the ice chunks down so other ships can sail through too....

    Interesting to see azipods on this ship, what project series is it?
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    Post  Scorpius Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:17 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Nice.

    Those azipods and props are designed so that if the ice is really thick it can reverse into the ice with the azipods pointing with its blades forward facing the ice chopping it up like a blender to improve its ability to sail through thicker ice and render the ice chunks down so other ships can sail through too....

    Interesting to see azipods on this ship, what project series is it?

    As for the ship itself , it is a multifunctional supply vessel of the IBSV-10022 project.
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    Post  mnztr Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 pm

    I was able to find that the Azipods are 7.5 MW and locally built in a GE/Rosneft joint venture. Hopefully they have established independence for all technologies.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:22 am

    Fortunately the west and its sanctions are giving them little choice.... Very Happy
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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:10 pm

    https://murman.tv/news/russian-1/novosti/1611248651-v-belokamenke-prodolzhaetsya-vozvedenie-centra-stroitelstva-krupnotonazhnyh-morskih-soruzheniy

    Construction of the Center for the construction of large-capacity offshore structures continues in Belokamenka


    This is the facility where they plan to build large structural blocks for the Novatek's Arctic LNG-2 project.

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    Post  Hole Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:59 pm

    Looks huuuge. One of these projects you don´t hear anything about in the western media.
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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:24 am

    owais.usmani wrote:https://murman.tv/news/russian-1/novosti/1611248651-v-belokamenke-prodolzhaetsya-vozvedenie-centra-stroitelstva-krupnotonazhnyh-morskih-soruzheniy

    Construction of the Center for the construction of large-capacity offshore structures continues in Belokamenka



    This is the facility where they plan to build large structural blocks for the Novatek's Arctic LNG-2 project.

    This project is vastly more complex and challenging than building aircraft carriers. Something to chew on for the Russia cannot into tech crowd.

    The floating LNG plants to built at this facility will have 480,000 tons of base weight to which is added 160,000 of processing "infrastructure"
    for a total of 640,000 tons of displacement. A Ford class carrier has a displacement of 100,000 tons.

    If the Golden era advocated by Navalny and his resident lickspittle, TS, on this board was still around, Russians would be lucky to
    be able to stitch together some underwear. Those that did not win the toilet cleaning lottery in the EU.



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    Post  x_54_u43 Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:11 am

    How is a floating concrete platform for gas processing equipment more complicated than a mobile nuclear powered vessel with complex weapons and sensors? It wouldn't surprise me if a Russian CVN project would be more expensive than one of these platforms.

    Not to detract from this impressive industrial accomplishment, these are huge platforms and this shipyard is impressive as well. I hope it is modified with a floating gate system so it can be used for vessel construction and maintenance, as it is perfect for the Northern Fleet. I doubt Novatek is just gonna throw away all that investment into those huge shipyards and metal working areas.

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:02 am

    x_54_u43 wrote:How is a floating concrete platform for gas processing equipment more complicated than a mobile nuclear powered vessel with complex weapons and sensors? It wouldn't surprise me if a Russian CVN project would be more expensive than one of these platforms.

    Not to detract from this impressive industrial accomplishment, these are huge platforms and this shipyard is impressive as well. I hope it is modified with a floating gate system so it can be used for vessel construction and maintenance, as it is perfect for the Northern Fleet. I doubt Novatek is just gonna throw away all that investment into those huge shipyards and metal working areas.

    Isn't it obvious?  You think that the complexity of a factory floating in the water is trivial compared to some tub with hangers and lifts for
    aircraft?   What is the complexity of a hanger?  The empty space?

    It baffles me how carriers are treated like pinnacles of technology.   This is one of the biggest jokes of all time.

    The key point here is that Russia clearly has the resources to build carrier tubs but chooses not to waste its money. Building these
    "primitive" LNG platforms is real power.

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:04 am

    https://sskzvezda.ru/index.php/ru/news/allnews/8-news/481-na-sudostroitelnyj-kompleks-zvezda-postavlena-partiya-kranovogo-oborudovaniya-dlya-gidrotekhnicheskikh-sooruzhenij

    Another large batch of crane equipment with a lifting capacity of 32 to 60 tons for the shipyard's hydraulic structures has been delivered to the Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex - three portal cranes and a container loader.

    After unloading the equipment, its installation and commissioning will begin. The most powerful was a container loader with a lifting capacity of 60 tons, equipped with magnetic traverses. It, as well as a portal and assembly crane with a lifting capacity of 50 tons, will be placed on the shipyard's cargo embankment to receive heavy cargo arriving by sea.

    The installation of two more of the arriving portal-erection cranes with a lifting capacity of 50 and 32 tons will allow completing the crane equipment for the outfitting and shallow-water embankments. The cranes are designed to carry out outfitting work on ships and will unload materials necessary for the production activities of the shipyard.

    SSK Zvezda possesses a unique fleet of crane equipment of various lifting capacity and purposes, including two gantry cranes of the Goliath type with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons each, equipped with an automated intelligent control system.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:09 am

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    Since the beginning of the year, the third RSD59 vessel has been launched. In total, the total number of vessels built under this project has already reached 32. They are being built by two shipyards: "Krasnoe Sormovo" and "Oka Shipyard".

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:54 pm

    Hole wrote:Looks huuuge. One of these projects you don´t hear anything about in the western media.
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    Post  Scorpius Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:28 pm

    Two types of "Arctic" in comparison:
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    Also for comparison: the first type of "Arctic" requires a crew of 138 people. The new "Arctic" has a crew of 75 (85 according to other sources) people.

    And a small comparison of the parameters of the three series of icebreakers:
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    Also a video:

    Now think about what's in the video - the smallest of the three mentioned.


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