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Syrian Civil War: News #5
KoTeMoRe- Posts : 4212
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- Post n°766
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Naaah it's complicated Ronnie was duped.
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6026
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- Post n°767
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Militarov wrote: Awww, so cute.
so he a FSA rookie? Then for the road I´d say "Rooks Have Arrived" / Грачи Прилетели
BTW the history scavenger is a representative of the exceptional nation?
Vann7- Posts : 5385
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- Post n°768
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
The jihadist above that will suicide.. LOL and his terrorist friend telling him to
"make it count" , in other words , to take with him more people lives . Russia can use
this tweet as evidence that the "peaceful " moderates are nothing but terrorist ,who
have no values for life.
ABout Aleppo.. you don't need to physically encircle a city to cut it out from the outside.
Once trucks and cars of the terrorist are are under visual range of Syrian artillery and or even better kornets.. (5km). it will be very hard,next to suicide to try to send supplies inside Aleppo.
In fact the Syrian Army if they are fully well armed with Russia ,with enough 5km Kornets.. lets
say thousands of them and very well reinforced their positions. They could use as tactic ,not to fully close the encirclement and leave a 5km area open. because that will give the false impression to jihadist that it is still open and that they have a chance to pass through the gate.
If they fully close it.. then the attempts to cross the gate will end and jihadist will remain hidden inside. Syria army and Russia needs to try to force terrorist to leave the security of the cities ,using civilians as human shields. is more easier to get them outside cities.
the advantage however of physically encircle aleppo however is that it will allow Syria army to
free some soldiers and relocate them in other fronts.. this is specially true if the terrorist are very weakened and cannot counter attack and all they can do is hide inside cities.
But to cut the supply lines , if the Syrian army is well supplied by Russia with decent stuff ,
it will be possible to cut Rebels supply lines even from 30km distance. by throwing mines for example and by using accurate artillery ,in enought numbers. still a crazy suicide muslin could get lucky and sneak with a motorbike with some luck.
All this means ,that by just looking at the map of Syrian army positions ,is not always the case ,that is enough information, to know how well they doing. Because we don't know yet exactly what are their strategy and intentions. Somewhere i read , that the Syrian army was using
and strategy *in some places* , of clearing a zone ,then retreating and allowing the terrorist to re-take an abandoned city and the bomb them again there,this was done to more easily target
them ,to pick the place of fighting ,to lure them away of civilians populated zones for a fight.
Mongols who developed one of the most effective tactics in the battlefield used a tactic that still today can be very effective. they simply charge with their horses into their enemies ,and attacked with bows from safe distance.. then lured their enemies away of their formations.
provoking them to chase them ..and they later counter attack the split forces more easily. it was hit and run tactics. .with those tactics they conquered all Asia. Naturally rebels cannot effectively do that with Russian airforce in control of the airspace ,but Syrian army can.
Yet instead of horses ,they can use motorbikes. and instead of bows they can use kornets.
Tactics can take any form ,and retreats are not always a sign of defeat.
With the right military hardware ,If Russia really operate with all the capabilities their army have, it is possible to cut any supply line even 30km away of it ,in norther Syria by mining roads and precision artillery (30km distance) ,making it really dangerous and close to suicide to try to cross any road by car ,using very good surveillance network.
This means that right now.. Syrian army is withing 30km distance from Turkey border in northern aleppo and Russia have the tools to close the border with enough artillery and smart weapons. It all depends if Russia was ready to reveal all their cards to their enemy too early . It will be better if Russia save their best stuff ,for the defense of their base to stop an invading Turkey or NATO army. definitively Russia will get a lot of valuable experience in Syria ,that will help them to fully understand how to fight radical Mercenaries ready to die , significantly armed and helped by NATO and their airforce
"make it count" , in other words , to take with him more people lives . Russia can use
this tweet as evidence that the "peaceful " moderates are nothing but terrorist ,who
have no values for life.
ABout Aleppo.. you don't need to physically encircle a city to cut it out from the outside.
Once trucks and cars of the terrorist are are under visual range of Syrian artillery and or even better kornets.. (5km). it will be very hard,next to suicide to try to send supplies inside Aleppo.
In fact the Syrian Army if they are fully well armed with Russia ,with enough 5km Kornets.. lets
say thousands of them and very well reinforced their positions. They could use as tactic ,not to fully close the encirclement and leave a 5km area open. because that will give the false impression to jihadist that it is still open and that they have a chance to pass through the gate.
If they fully close it.. then the attempts to cross the gate will end and jihadist will remain hidden inside. Syria army and Russia needs to try to force terrorist to leave the security of the cities ,using civilians as human shields. is more easier to get them outside cities.
the advantage however of physically encircle aleppo however is that it will allow Syria army to
free some soldiers and relocate them in other fronts.. this is specially true if the terrorist are very weakened and cannot counter attack and all they can do is hide inside cities.
But to cut the supply lines , if the Syrian army is well supplied by Russia with decent stuff ,
it will be possible to cut Rebels supply lines even from 30km distance. by throwing mines for example and by using accurate artillery ,in enought numbers. still a crazy suicide muslin could get lucky and sneak with a motorbike with some luck.
All this means ,that by just looking at the map of Syrian army positions ,is not always the case ,that is enough information, to know how well they doing. Because we don't know yet exactly what are their strategy and intentions. Somewhere i read , that the Syrian army was using
and strategy *in some places* , of clearing a zone ,then retreating and allowing the terrorist to re-take an abandoned city and the bomb them again there,this was done to more easily target
them ,to pick the place of fighting ,to lure them away of civilians populated zones for a fight.
Mongols who developed one of the most effective tactics in the battlefield used a tactic that still today can be very effective. they simply charge with their horses into their enemies ,and attacked with bows from safe distance.. then lured their enemies away of their formations.
provoking them to chase them ..and they later counter attack the split forces more easily. it was hit and run tactics. .with those tactics they conquered all Asia. Naturally rebels cannot effectively do that with Russian airforce in control of the airspace ,but Syrian army can.
Yet instead of horses ,they can use motorbikes. and instead of bows they can use kornets.
Tactics can take any form ,and retreats are not always a sign of defeat.
With the right military hardware ,If Russia really operate with all the capabilities their army have, it is possible to cut any supply line even 30km away of it ,in norther Syria by mining roads and precision artillery (30km distance) ,making it really dangerous and close to suicide to try to cross any road by car ,using very good surveillance network.
This means that right now.. Syrian army is withing 30km distance from Turkey border in northern aleppo and Russia have the tools to close the border with enough artillery and smart weapons. It all depends if Russia was ready to reveal all their cards to their enemy too early . It will be better if Russia save their best stuff ,for the defense of their base to stop an invading Turkey or NATO army. definitively Russia will get a lot of valuable experience in Syria ,that will help them to fully understand how to fight radical Mercenaries ready to die , significantly armed and helped by NATO and their airforce
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JohninMK- Posts : 14844
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- Post n°769
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
SAA/Hez sending a Tochka on its way, launch is near end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hQ9eF9riA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hQ9eF9riA
DerWolf- Posts : 204
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- Post n°770
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
I read somewhere that the next great battle will be in Jarabulus, turkish army might be invilved there too.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13312
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- Post n°771
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
PapaDragon- Posts : 13312
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Militarov wrote:
Awww, so cute.
Surprise, surprise, it turns out Juhadi Julian is pal with this guy
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/694618864877965318
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- Post n°773
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
PapaDragon wrote:Militarov wrote:
Awww, so cute.
Surprise, surprise, it turns out Juhadi Julian is pal with this guy
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/694618864877965318
I wouldnt know lol
PapaDragon- Posts : 13312
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- Post n°774
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Militarov wrote:...............................
I wouldnt know lol
Oh you're in trouble now!!!
KiloGolf- Posts : 2481
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- Post n°775
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
^^ don't know about you guys but I view twitter feeds without an account, via twitter search.
And I do not worry about being blocked.
And I do not worry about being blocked.
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- Post n°776
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
KiloGolf wrote:^^ don't know about you guys but I view twitter feeds without an account, via twitter search.
And I do not worry about being blocked.
I was bragging haahha
short_fuze- Posts : 272
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- Post n°777
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
PapaDragon wrote:
2 cauldrons coming nicely to the boil and a third warming up!
JohninMK- Posts : 14844
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- Post n°778
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Close-up of new Syrian tank defence unit, fitted on T-55
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6026
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- Post n°779
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Militarov wrote:KiloGolf wrote:^^ don't know about you guys but I view twitter feeds without an account, via twitter search.
And I do not worry about being blocked.
I was bragging haahha
Oh Julian he just hates cauldrons especially 2nd of February. His heroes in Stalingrad 2/2/1943
Shadåw- Posts : 86
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- Post n°780
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Julian's heroes being fired upon by Tochka. (Most likely SAA operated.)
kvs- Posts : 15186
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- Post n°781
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Julian needs to put some salt and pepper on his pillow as he eats it.
If there is any justice in this world, faggot Julian would die at the hands of one of his beloved terrorist martyrs.
If there is any justice in this world, faggot Julian would die at the hands of one of his beloved terrorist martyrs.
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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- Post n°782
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Another shot of the mystery system, on a BMP-1.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13312
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- Post n°783
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Alarm system. When it detects TOW infra red signal it makes a sound to warn the crew. Basic but still good to have.
Lost link but I'm pretty sure that is it.
Zivo- Posts : 1487
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- Post n°784
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
PapaDragon wrote:
Alarm system. When it detects TOW infra red signal it makes a sound to warn the crew. Basic but still good to have.
Lost link but I'm pretty sure that is it.
Is it russian?
chinggis- Posts : 53
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- Post n°785
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
PapaDragon wrote:
Alarm system. When it detects TOW infra red signal it makes a sound to warn the crew. Basic but still good to have.
Lost link but I'm pretty sure that is it.
I think it is an active countermeasure and of course warning system. Box is to big for just a warning device, and rectangular window is to big just for IR detector. I think it work like Shotra but in shorter time. If I understand correctly how Shotra work, it work all the time and this is a reason why it have big rectangular boxes with passive cooler. This device I think work only when receive IR signature of lunched ATGM and second sensor which is transmitter start to work to blind guidance. This can be done with the components from civil market, and that is reason why this box is so big. This is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong.
KoTeMoRe- Posts : 4212
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- Post n°786
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
chinggis wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
Alarm system. When it detects TOW infra red signal it makes a sound to warn the crew. Basic but still good to have.
Lost link but I'm pretty sure that is it.
I think it is an active countermeasure and of course warning system. Box is to big for just a warning device, and rectangular window is to big just for IR detector. I think it work like Shotra but in shorter time. If I understand correctly how Shotra work, it work all the time and this is a reason why it have big rectangular boxes with passive cooler. This device I think work only when receive IR signature of lunched ATGM and second sensor which is transmitter start to work to blind guidance. This can be done with the components from civil market, and that is reason why this box is so big. This is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong.
The biggest interest I have is to know the exact coupling? Because most of the time the IR LOS will be very brief (When the TOW/ATGM is aimed and launch initiated or when the operator steers the missile home). This means a second or two at best.
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- Post n°787
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
One of Al-Nusra Front's Leaders Killed in Syrian Government Airstrike
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160203/1034146967/nusra-syria-commander-killing.html#ixzz3z6gzaaRs
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160203/1034146967/nusra-syria-commander-killing.html#ixzz3z6gzaaRs
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- Post n°788
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Everyone loves a winner... or not being a loser
''Syrian Militants North of Aleppo Agree to Fight Alongside Gov't Forces''
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160203/1034147781/syria-aleppo-assad-sides.html
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- Post n°789
Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
At this rate poor Julian will soon swallow his own ''sword''...
https://mobile.twitter.com/julianroepcke?lang=en
''(Pro-)#Assad forces take As Sin east of #Aleppo and are close to encircling a large #ISIS-held area.''
JohninMK- Posts : 14844
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #5
Already posted and they are apparently talking with a south Lebanese dialect so most likely Hez at least surrounding the launcher, which as you say is probably SAA operated, especially given the Russia/Israel situation.Shadåw wrote:Julian's heroes being fired upon by Tochka. (Most likely SAA operated.)
From their conversation it was the first launch they had seen.
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