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    Syrian Civil War: News #5

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    Post  Aldin_Aba Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:14 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Aldin_Aba wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Aldin_Aba wrote:As i promised its a map time. Salma attack today unfolded in 3 phases. All 3 phases conducted with RuAF support
    1st phase was diversionary attack on Tathiriyah with artillery support from Kadim hills.

    2nd phase started when Tathiriyah was captured, with most of rebel units still on other side trying to fend of attack SAA unit Suqur Al-Sahra with NDF and artillery support from Durin mountain secure Salma suburbs and sorounding hills hour after attack started

    3rd phase was assault on village itself from the suburb direction and mountains above Salma center, Syrian army units in Tathiriyah and artillery from Kadim keep rebel forces busy inside Marj Khawka.
    What happened to the defenders? Was the quick final collapse down to fleeing to fight another day?

    Fled to fight another day, one of the major group fled after Syrian forces took Tathiriyah, others where cornered in northern sector and doomed.

    If they fled it's either a sign of collapse or they've been building up stronger positions up north (question is where?).

    They where overpowered. This was well organized and executed attack, surprisingly well if you look at the SAA standards..
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:18 pm

    Aldin_Aba wrote:They where overpowered. This was well organized and executed attack, surprisingly well if you look at the SAA standards..

    It seem the Russian general's presence was beyond observation, some serious tactical planning went into this operation. The maps show absolutely astonishing results, huge area taken with not much casualties for SAA (or so we know right now). The insurgents seem to have simply creeped.. after RuAF targeting. Short supplies during winter make even defending such positions near impossible (should be noted).
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    Post  Aldin_Aba Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:21 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Aldin_Aba wrote:They where overpowered. This was well organized and executed attack, surprisingly well if you look at the SAA standards..

    It seem the Russian general's presence was beyond observation, some serious tactical planning went into this operation. The maps show absolutely astonishing results, huge area taken with not much casualties for SAA (or so we know right now). The insurgents seem to have simply creeped.. after RuAF targeting. Short supplies during winter make even defending such positions near impossible (should be noted).

    Very few casualties, storming was done mostly by infantry, this time, finally, they did not rush tanks inside the town, they kept them outside.. Heaviest fighting was in town center. the whole area was taken in one day basically.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:25 pm

    Aldin_Aba wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Aldin_Aba wrote:As i promised its a map time. Salma attack today unfolded in 3 phases. All 3 phases conducted with RuAF support
    1st phase was diversionary attack on Tathiriyah with artillery support from Kadim hills.

    2nd phase started when Tathiriyah was captured, with most of rebel units still on other side trying to fend of attack SAA unit Suqur Al-Sahra with NDF and artillery support from Durin mountain secure Salma suburbs and sorounding hills hour after attack started

    3rd phase was assault on village itself from the suburb direction and mountains above Salma center, Syrian army units in Tathiriyah and artillery from Kadim keep rebel forces busy inside Marj Khawka.
    What happened to the defenders? Was the quick final collapse down to fleeing to fight another day?

    Fled to fight another day, one of the major group fled after Syrian forces took Tathiriyah, others where cornered in northern sector and doomed.
    Thanks and excellent. Fled to spread the 'no point in resisting, they are too strong, get out before its too late, the day of doom is coming' message. Bet that's in the Sun Wu manual as part of his 'always give the enemy a way out' thinking.

    It was one thing being a happy, well supplied band always moving forward enjoying the spoils of war (OK, looting and raping), quite another to be falling back, ill-supplied, losing friends and in the cold, wet winter to boot. Bad enough for hardened troops but for this lot of rank amateurs it must be really tough. Sounds like they are reaping the whirlwind and enjoying perfect poetic justice to me.
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:42 pm

    Footage from the ground in free Salma:




    Also this "celebrity" seems butthurt after Salma got liberated (what is he saying?):
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    Post  par far Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:48 pm

    There was a terriost attack in Turkey and they say it was a "Syrian" who did it, just wait until the Turks try and pin this on Assad and Syria and if they try something funny, I hope thier asses are handed to them.

    At the end the video they talk about a new Christian group that is fighting the the US supported YPG, does anyone more about this Christian group? First time I heard of them, who supports them? Who trains them? Who equips them? They are right on Turkeys borders.

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-jan-12-2016/

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:03 pm

    par far wrote:There was a terriost attack in Turkey and they say it was a "Syrian" who did it, just wait until the Turks try and pin this on Assad and Syria and if they try something funny, I hope thier asses are handed to them.

    That was the instant reaction of the Government, 'see ISIS attack us too', another convenient and timely Turkish event. It looks as if most of the dead are German so Merkel's reaction will be interesting, whether German Intelligence think it was aimed at them or not by whoever did it.
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:06 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    par far wrote:There was a terriost attack in Turkey and they say it was a "Syrian" who did it, just wait until the Turks try and pin this on Assad and Syria and if they try something funny, I hope thier asses are handed to them.

    That was the instant reaction of the Government, 'see ISIS attack us too', another convenient and timely Turkish event. It looks as if most of the dead are German so Merkel's reaction will be interesting, whether German Intelligence think it was aimed at them or not by whoever did it.

    Her reaction was that these attacks are against freedom, etc. Nowhere did she mention that the particular city of Turkey is the jihad capital of Turkey and global hub in/out of the Middle East and Caucasus, since the Chechen and Yugo wars. With all sorts of radicals based there. The reality is such incidents are expected there since the local gov is in bed with certain elements of the sort. Why tourists keep visiting such countries is beyond me. They are not safe there, since ages ago.



    Oh look, the Latakia band of hopeless turk-jihadis is giving out a very "post-2000 Chechnya" vibe.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:59 pm


    Sucks to be you... Razz

    Syrian opposition coordinator says U.S. clearly backtracked over Syria

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crsisis-syria-opposition-idUSKCN0UQ1XB20160112
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:14 pm




    Syrian Army took Jarjisah in Southern Hama today after demoralized militants surrendered the town #Map:

    https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/686685353537847296


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    Post  zg18 Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:47 pm

    Nevermind, already posted.

    BTW congrats to SAA & RuAf for taking out rat den at Salma attack
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:39 pm

    Russian general: New militants regularly arrive to Syria’s Latakia province from Turkey

    MOSCOW, January 11. /TASS/. New recruits are regularly arriving to the north-eastern part of the Syrian province of Latakia from Turkey, Lieutenant General Sergey Rudskoy, chief of the main operations department of the Russian General Staff, told journalists on Monday.

    Rudskoy said that Syrian government forces are making progress while militants are suffering losses and forces to leave their positions. "However, despite efforts of the international community directed at stopping any support to terrorists, new recruits regularly arrive to the north-eastern part of Latakia province from the Turkish territory," he added.

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/world/848780

    this won't stop until the border is physically sealed with SAA presence. unshaven

    and RuAF is wrecking the place in Sarmada, Idlib:


    the border crossing to Reyhanli in Turkey is the obvious target, known weapons route.
    http://syria.liveuamap.com/?zoom=11&ll=36.18583,36.72438

    and hits on Lataminah in N. Hama:


    and Damascus:


    more air strikes by RuAF near Malikia where SDF forces operate (i.e. this is support for them):
    #Azaz : airstrikes by #Russian warplanes near Malikia
    https://twitter.com/infamousKlaus/status/687018531788034049


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    Post  Acheron Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:47 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Also this "celebrity" seems butthurt after Salma got liberated (what is he saying?):

    Al Romo over at themess managed to condense the rant and translate it. Here it is:

    "General mood is low and full of whine to the point of barefaced ranting. I think he is in need of a several FAB™ pills. Vova the Doctor, where are you?



    - Enemies mustered a lot of might but they are still holding them.

    - They are in few numbers and holding the enemy because he not as ***** as he thinks.

    - Situation is turning critical but no one else in Sham™ is rushing to help them.

    - Of course, it is wrong to forfeit other critical locations just to reinforce their critical location, but strangely, strong and able mujahideen™are still staying in less critical locations and are not coming to help them.

    - So the enemy, as dumb he is, is slowly but surely pushing them out from the cities to the desert where they may be ultimately crushed and all those poor refugees living in the tents would be abandoned in the middle of winter.

    - Strong and able mujahideen™ find all kinds of excuses to stay out of fight. Especially - Why those cowardly civilians are not helping us as they must?

    - Same goes for financial support. They were receiving scarce leftovers even in the better days. Now it's even worse and they had to disband many strong and able brothers™
    .
    - Some bad muslims discourage our potential supporters from providing support and help and assistance. They are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

    - Help us. Pretty please. The fate of the Glorious™ Islamic State™ is on the edge.

    And a lot of snackbar-ish chanting."

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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:57 pm

    Acheron wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:
    Also this "celebrity" seems butthurt after Salma got liberated (what is he saying?):

    Al Romo over at themess managed to condense the rant and translate it. Here it is:

    Thanks, looks and sounds like their morale is low, very low. From the butthurt chechen video, lack of TOW launches (seen a malyutka today), loss of Salma, loss of Jarjisah and those series of huge air strikes (all over the country).. well, Tuesday was a bad day for the "moderates".

    cherry on the top, Peto's sweet map below pirat

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    some accepted it and admit that after Salma loss, Latakia is lost for FSA... others are in denial..
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:51 pm

    Julian must be bitter and biting his pillow now.

    BTW, does anyone have estimates of SAA and allied forces ground forces troop count vs. Daesh and its "moderate" allies?
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    Post  OminousSpudd Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:52 pm

    Oh their tears, their sweet, sweet tears.

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:59 pm

    par far wrote:There was a terriost attack in Turkey and they say it was a "Syrian" who did it, just wait until the Turks try and pin this on Assad and Syria and if they try something funny, I hope thier asses are handed to them.

    At the end the video they talk about a new Christian group that is fighting the the US supported YPG, does anyone more about this Christian group? First time I heard of them, who supports them? Who trains them? Who equips them? They are right on Turkeys borders.

    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-jan-12-2016/


    According to TUrkish PM, the guy was Saudi...
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    Post  zg18 Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:13 pm

    Some todays videos from Salma:

    Troops overlook terrorist positions and prepare for storming (+ night footage from Ruptly)





    Syrian troops inside Salma






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    Post  franco Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:15 pm

    kvs wrote:Julian must be bitter and biting his pillow now.

    BTW, does anyone have estimates of SAA and allied forces ground forces troop count vs. Daesh and its "moderate" allies?

    Rough count in Syria 60,000 Daesh, 30,000 Kurds and 80,000 others divided into over 100 fractions.

    According to Putin, Russians have deemed 11 fractions as "moderates" and are giving them air support. even the Brits now admit that at least 65% of others have Al-Qaeda affiliation.

    Wiki has these totals - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War
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    Post  Aldin_Aba Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:37 am

    UPDATE: Informations are confirmed from Syrian reporters and soldiers on the frontline.
    Rebellion positions around Salma in total collapse. This morning Syrian forces took control of villages Marj Khawkha, Mrouniyat and Al-Kawm.

    Here is the map for now, its not mine, i will do mine tactical analysis tonight.
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:00 am

    pimp my ride, SAA style
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    Aldin_Aba wrote:UPDATE: Informations are confirmed from Syrian reporters and soldiers on the frontline.
    Rebellion positions around Salma in total collapse. This morning Syrian forces took control of villages Marj Khawkha, Mrouniyat and Al-Kawm.

    Here is the map for now, its not mine, i will do mine tactical analysis tonight.
    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 17 CYlp2pWWkAAo7a8

    Thanks, SAA seems to have done well after Salma was liberated.
    What's the name and elevation of that insurgent-held position on the west of Salma?
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    Post  Aldin_Aba Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:06 am

    KiloGolf wrote:pimp my ride, SAA style
    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 17 CYk2AmnWsAEnA-y
    credit: @IvanSidorenko1

    Aldin_Aba wrote:UPDATE: Informations are confirmed from Syrian reporters and soldiers on the frontline.
    Rebellion positions around Salma in total collapse. This morning Syrian forces took control of villages Marj Khawkha, Mrouniyat and Al-Kawm.

    Here is the map for now, its not mine, i will do mine tactical analysis tonight.
    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 17 CYlp2pWWkAAo7a8

    Thanks, SAA seems to have done well after Salma was liberated.
    What's the name and elevation of that insurgent-held position on the west of Salma?

    From Salma to Jisr al-Shughur its all downhill.
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:01 am

    more interesting rides by SAA, they seem to be upping their game

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    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1  11m11 minutes ago
    #Syria #Latakia #Lattakia Photos of #SAA #NDF #SyrianArmy Suqur al-Sahra @ #Salma Yesterday.

    and bit more good news:

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    Ivan Sidorenko ‏@IvanSidorenko1 4m4 minutes ago
    #Syria #Homs Hosein Mortada Claims #NDF has captured #harbnafsa WEST #Jarjisa Still waiting for #NDF Confirmation
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    Post  short_fuze Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:10 am

    KiloGolf wrote:


    and Damascus:



    How long before the ISIS-apologists start shrieking Russia has used nukes against poor innocent freedom fighters?
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:14 pm

    Latakia gains for SAA

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